skitz Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) ... at ang MORALIDAD na HINIHINGI MO,... ay ang "MORALIDAD na LIKAS nang MAYROON KA".As illustrated in the conflict with Batusai and Shishio (clashing moral codes), parehong "likas" sa kanila ang "moralidad" nila. Ngayon, who is right and who is wrong? Look, yang "likas" na yan ang dahilan kung bakit ang mga serial killers can justify their own inhumanity -- dahil "likas" daw sa kanila yung ganuong gawain. TAMA BA YUN o MALI? ------------ At any rate, I don't think anyone in his right mind would buy your "MORAL CODE" (if I can even call it that). Haynaku, talo ka pa nang cartoon character na si Shishio. I might not agree with his moral code, but at least, he has ONE. And he is definite with it. And to some degree, it is logical. Hindi yung hedging and confused "moral code". Edited April 18, 2011 by skitz Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 BTW, let me illustrate what a moral code is for you (so that even you would understand). If you watch Samurai X (yes the cartoon), Kenshin Himura's (Batusai) moral code is "The strong shall protect the weak". His arch nemesis, Shishio's, however, moral code is "Only the strong survive". Kaya merong clash/conflict yung dalawa, kasi different ang moral codes nila. Hindi yung "depende". A moral code is "DEFINITE". Kaya nga MORAL CODE E. Yan ang guide mo to decided whether something right or wrong. The CATHOLIC CHURCH, for example, is VERY DEFINITE with their guidelines (based on their moral code). ABORTION IS WRONG. Hindi "DEPENDE". Definitely "WRONG'. Kung "DEPENDE" rin lang naman, mabuti pang sabihing "WALA" na lang. ... "DEFINITE"?... CATHOLIC CHURCH is VERY DEFINITE with their GUIDELINES?... SIGURADO? ... MULA ba ng "NAGSIMULA" ang CATHOLIC CHURCH "HANGGANG NGAYON", ... ay "HINDI NAGKAROON ng PAGBABAGO" ang KANILANG GUIDELINES? ... PARA sa IYO, MABUTI ba o MASAMA ang GAWAING ITO, Now therefore k*ll every male among the little ones, and k*ll every woman that hath known man by lying withhim. (Num 31:17 KJV) But all the women children,that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. (Num31:18 KJV) Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 As illustrated in the conflict with Batusai and Shishio (clashing moral codes), parehong "likas" sa kanila ang "moralidad" nila. Ngayon, who is right and who is wrong? Look, yang "likas" na yan ang dahilan kung bakit ang mga serial killers can justify their own inhumanity -- dahil "likas" daw sa kanila yung ganuong gawain. TAMA BA YUN o MALI? ... ang kaso,... kung "IISA o IILAN" lang ang SERIAL KILLER,... KANINONG "JUSTICE" ba ang MASUSUNOD? ... KANINONG "TAMA at MALI" ba ang MASUSUNOD? Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) ------------ At any rate, I don't think anyone in his right mind would buy your "MORAL CODE" (if I can even call it that). Haynaku, talo ka pa nang cartoon character na si Shishio. I might not agree with his moral code, but at least, he has ONE. And he is definite with it. And to some degree, it is logical. Hindi yung hedging and confused "moral code". ... HINDI "HEDGING and CONFUSED", ... HINDI lang MAKATID ang PANANAW KO,... NAUUNAWAAN KO lang na "IBA-IBA ang TAO". Edited April 18, 2011 by vheRR Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) Well, it's plain and simple as anyone can see. In essence, your moral code is anything that is against God is "TRUE". Great. That's perfect. Anything that might support the God contention, as far as your moral code goes, is wrong. Of what use is such a moral code? Hmmmm... nothing... Look, if you are really an ATHEIST, like you have always pronounced yourself to be, your moral code should not be hinged upon (though as the counter to) on something that does not exist. You are the "ANTI" of something that does not exist? This is laughable. That you are so against God, only goes to show that you "BELIEVE" in God, only that you have this emotional axe to grind against God. And that begs the question -- why? Edited April 18, 2011 by skitz Quote Link to comment
ladyboy Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 yun paiba-iba ng religion yun ang walang diyoswalang pananampalataya kasi di nila alam kung sino diyos nila kaya ingat kayo sa mga pagans yun nagkukunyari na banal Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Well, it's plain and simple as anyone can see. In essence, your moral code is anything that is against God is "TRUE". Great. That's perfect. Anything that might support the God contention, as far as your moral code goes, is wrong. Of what use is such a moral code? Hmmmm... nothing... Look, if you are really an ATHEIST, like you have always pronounced yourself to be, your moral code should not be hinged upon (though as the counter to) on something that does not exist. You are the "ANTI" of something that does not exist? This is laughable. That you are so against God, only goes to show that you "BELIEVE" in God, only that you have this emotional axe to grind against God. And that begs the question -- why? ... again,... LIKAS sa TAO,... HINDI IBINIGAY sa TAO,... DAHIL HINDI TOTOO ang DIOS MO,... WALANG PINAGKAIBA sa "KUMULOG-KUMIDLAT-KASI-GALIT-DIOS",... UNLESS, na "KAYA MONG PATUNAYAN"?... ANO na nga uli ang MABUTI at MASAMA "AYON sa DIOS MO"?... at NATITIYAK MO ba na DIOS MO nga ang "NAGBIGAY"? ... at HINDI "TAO"? Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 yun paiba-iba ng religion yun ang walang diyoswalang pananampalataya kasi di nila alam kung sino diyos nila kaya ingat kayo sa mga pagans yun nagkukunyari na banal ... SINO nga ba ang DIOS?... PAANO ba "MATITIYAK" kung ALING DIOS ang TOTOO at HINDI TOTOO? Quote Link to comment
SaintPeter5858 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I always need it... every second of my life Quote Link to comment
SaintPeter5858 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 ... at ang MORAL CODE na SINASABI MONG MULA sa DIOS MO, ... may PINAGKAIBA ba?... hindi ba't "DEPENDE" rin? ... DEPENDE sa kung "SINO ang GAGAMIT", ... at DEPENDE sa kung "SINO ang PAGGAGAMITAN",... DEPENDE sa kung "SINO ang PAPATAY", ... at DEPENDE sa kung "SINO ang PAPATAYIN". Absolute subjectivism! Very dangerous coz it can easily lead to anarchy. What's next then? Quote Link to comment
Graham Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Moral Code is embedded in every human being.God is within us and he always remind us of what is wrong or what is right for you.If you will only listen to him. Quote Link to comment
SaintPeter5858 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Follow it and you'll never have any enemies. Quote Link to comment
SaintPeter5858 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 yun paiba-iba ng religion yun ang walang diyoswalang pananampalataya kasi di nila alam kung sino diyos nila kaya ingat kayo sa mga pagans yun nagkukunyari na banal In a way yes. But we still have to listen to otehr people's opinion. Dialogue is the best process to reslove any conflict. Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 (edited) Six months since I last posted here. Nothing substantial came from the atheists side during that time. If we are to sum up their moral code, it is the same moral code given by the God that does not exist (according to them). Yeah, that makes perfect sense. ------------------------ AGAIN, before some atheist makes another post here trying to prove that God does not exist, IT IS A GIVEN, as far as this thread is concerned. Gets nyo? GIVEN NA NGA, so don't prove it. GOD DOES NOT EXIST (as far as this thread is concerned). NOW WHAT? Edited October 14, 2011 by skitz Quote Link to comment
BrightestStar Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 ... SINO nga ba ang DIOS?... PAANO ba "MATITIYAK" kung ALING DIOS ang TOTOO at HINDI TOTOO? That's a good sign of soul searching. You're now close to sainthood. St augustine and St ignatius underwent the same stage too. Quote Link to comment
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