sandy51 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 whenever you see the news, it's always the blunders or corruption that GMA and FG Mike made.... btw guys, what do you think of FRANCIS TOLENTINO as MMDA CHAIRMAN?? he seems to be doing a pretty good job, implementing the smoking bans and the control among fast cars along commonwealth and slex..... I mean, he's not as good as BAYANI FERNANDO but pretty decent if you ask me.. For me, it is just another opportunityfor "kotong". There are still so many older laws that have not been implemented and we are already on a new crusade. For example: MMDA already built urinals, most gas stations have CRs; meyroon pang Jollibee and McDo pero yun pa rin. Tapon sa kalye, I even see MMDA people doing this. Para lang yan number coding as a source of "kotong". Go for those who come from the province and do not know; then get the license so that they will have to make a choice between paying up or staying in a hotel in manila just to bet it back. Yet, there are older laws like loading and unloading in the middle of the street - and this is one reason for traffic. Funny but this started during the time of Binay as MMDA. The MMDA study showed that the traffic problem was caused by the "E's" and one "E" was enforcement. The solution was "color coding". Very good. The problem is enforcement and the solution involves enforcement. A typical government problem solving methodology. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) Oh yes, the bitter truth behind the blame game. As Aling Gloria loved to put it, "It's the noisy opposition". Her minions are singing a different tunes now - political persecution and vendetta.It is not primarily persecution and vendetta, although that's what seems to personally drive Noynoy in all his political actions. His amateur showbiz government -- the people who put this clown into power-- are the ones who are really orchestrating the blame game and demolition jobs. They even have a timetable on when to release "juicy" tabloid news about alleged sins of the past admin. It's all for the entertainment of rapidly thinning numbers of gullible Noynoy supporters. All these PCSO expose's are just to feed the hate campaign. But in the end, there is still no proof of anything to pin down the former president in the proper court. Chasing after the wind. Edited July 11, 2011 by camiar Quote Link to comment
wolfwhistler Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 It is not primarily persecution and vendetta, although that's what seems to personally drive Noynoy in all his political actions. His amateur showbiz government -- the people who put this clown into power-- are the ones who are really orchestrating the blame game and demolition jobs. They even have a timetable on when to release "juicy" tabloid news about alleged sins of the past admin. It's all for the entertainment of rapidly thinning numbers of gullible Noynoy supporters. All these PCSO expose's are just to feed the hate campaign. But in the end, there is still no proof of anything to pin down the former president in the proper court. Chasing after the wind. I have to agree with the "amateur showbiz government"...a concrete example, i think, would be when Erap was placed under house arrest in his Tanay property while he was tried on Court TV...He was convicted of plunder after a long drawn out trial...and then given amnesty by Arroyo... So that our nation can perpetuate our showbiz mentality, Pnoy should do what GMA did to Erap..but, maybe, he should omit the amnesty part... Quote Link to comment
Qui-Gon Jinn Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I have to agree with the "amateur showbiz government"...a concrete example, i think, would be when Erap was placed under house arrest in his Tanay property while he was tried on Court TV...He was convicted of plunder after a long drawn out trial...and then given amnesty by Arroyo... So that our nation can perpetuate our showbiz mentality, Pnoy should do what GMA did to Erap..but, maybe, he should omit the amnesty part... at ibalik ang death penalty saka sumampol ng isa...pota tingnan lang natin kung may magnakaw pa sa gobyerno! Quote Link to comment
zenislev Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 at ibalik ang death penalty saka sumampol ng isa...pota tingnan lang natin kung may magnakaw pa sa gobyerno! mas maganda yung death penalty sa China, FIRING SQUAD. Gawin nating mas nakakatakot, imbes na 5.56mm gawin natin .50 cal ang bala. Quote Link to comment
Qui-Gon Jinn Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 mas maganda yung death penalty sa China, FIRING SQUAD. Gawin nating mas nakakatakot, imbes na 5.56mm gawin natin .50 cal ang bala. mas maganda...mas mataas ang pwesto sa gobyerno mas malaking bala gagamitin...pag congressman RPG gagamitin...pag presidente howitzer! pag senador sinturon ni hudas isusuot sa baywang, tapos may nakapasak na granada sa bibig! Quote Link to comment
laging_nagmamahal Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 It is not primarily persecution and vendetta, although that's what seems to personally drive Noynoy in all his political actions. Political persecution and vendetta had been two of the most common excuses given out by politicians who get exposed, rightly or wrongly. With regards to Noynoy being personally driven by these, frankly, I don't see how and when. Somewhere in this thread, he got the flak for not running after the Marcoses. If he did, I am sure, he would also have been criticized for being vindictive. Is Noynoy really engaged in this blame game to primarily subject his political opponents to persecution? Still, I don't see how and why. Aling Gloria is no longer a current political opponent. If at all, my opinion is that she is more preoccupied with trying to cover all her bases to ensure that, as it was during her time, no charges against her will stick. Noynoy has his "Kasalanan po ito ng nakaraang administrasyon" in much the same way as Aling Gloria had her "It's the noisy opposition". I ranted against Aling Gloria's in much the same way I am ranting against Noynoy's. ... They even have a timetable on when to release "juicy" tabloid news about alleged sins of the past admin. It's all for the entertainment of rapidly thinning numbers of gullible Noynoy supporters. Having a timetable does not exactly sound amateurish, does it? Of course, it will depend on whether the timetable is adhered to, and the intended effect materializes. 'Alleged' sins of the past? They can only be 'alleged' because they have not been proven in the courts yet. Oh well, I am chasing after the wind - allegedly. Quote Link to comment
laging_nagmamahal Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 So that our nation can perpetuate our showbiz mentality, Pnoy should do what GMA did to Erap..but, maybe, he should omit the amnesty part... Eagerly waiting, patiently chasing after the wind here... Quote Link to comment
laging_nagmamahal Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) By all means this is another lame duck secretary who can only do lips service. Wikipedia defines a lame duck as an elected official who is approaching the end of his or her tenure, and especially an official whose successor has already been elected. Personally, I have not formulated my own opinion with regards to Sec. Robredo's allegedly poor (or non-) performance, yet. Two things I am dead sure about: 1. He did not get the DILG Secretary post by virtue of an election 2. His successor has not been, and will never be elected- unless, we change the rules. ...or, is Wikipedia wrong? Edited July 11, 2011 by laging_nagmamahal Quote Link to comment
zenislev Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Wikipedia defines a lame duck as an elected official who is approaching the end of his or her tenure, and especially an official whose successor has already been elected. Personally, I have not formulated my own opinion with regards to Sec. Robredo's allegedly poor (or non-) performance, yet. Two things I am dead sure about: 1. He did not get the DILG Secretary post by virtue of an election 2. His successor has not been, and will never be elected- unless, we change the rules. ...or, is Wikipedia wrong? a very rare kind of coincidence. Quote Link to comment
scam Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Wikipedia defines a lame duck as an elected official who is approaching the end of his or her tenure, and especially an official whose successor has already been elected. Personally, I have not formulated my own opinion with regards to Sec. Robredo's allegedly poor (or non-) performance, yet. Two things I am dead sure about: 1. He did not get the DILG Secretary post by virtue of an election 2. His successor has not been, and will never be elected- unless, we change the rules. ...or, is Wikipedia wrong? Webster defines it: 1. One that is weak or that falls behind in ability or achievement2. An elected official or group continuing to hold political office during the period between the election and the inauguration of a successor.3. One whose position or term of office will soon end #1 would be fit into Robredo's position. Quote Link to comment
laging_nagmamahal Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 My apologies, scam, for being a lameduck (Definition #1) and having failed to check Webster. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Political persecution and vendetta had been two of the most common excuses given out by politicians who get exposed, rightly or wrongly. With regards to Noynoy being personally driven by these, frankly, I don't see how and when. Of course you won’t see the how and the when. That’s why the word gullible came to be. Somewhere in this thread, he got the flak for not running after the Marcoses. If he did, I am sure, he would also have been criticized for being vindictive.Does he really have anything against the Marcoses to run after? Or should he be running against his own uncle? Is Noynoy really engaged in this blame game to primarily subject his political opponents to persecution? Still, I don't see how and why. Aling Gloria is no longer a current political opponent. If at all, my opinion is that she is more preoccupied with trying to cover all her bases to ensure that, as it was during her time, no charges against her will stick.As long as GMA is in the political arena, Noynoy and his partymates will be wary of her as a major political opponent. Once we change to Parliamentary system, all of them can run again as Prime Ministers. That’s why there’s continuing litany of demolition jobs being arrayed against GMA. Noynoy has his "Kasalanan po ito ng nakaraang administrasyon" in much the same way as Aling Gloria had her "It's the noisy opposition". I ranted against Aling Gloria's in much the same way I am ranting against Noynoy's.GMA was able to plan and implement many of her economic programs despite the noisy opposition. Noynoy does not have anything to show one year after stepping into power. He even use the fruits of the past administration’s efforts and claim them as his own. And the gullible public is lapping it up. Having a timetable does not exactly sound amateurish, does it? Of course, it will depend on whether the timetable is adhered to, and the intended effect materializes.Noynoy’s government is amateur in policy making and policy execution. They are showbiz when it comes to propaganda and in diverting people’s attention. What they are good at is getting the right timing in releasing the chismis and expose’ that their gullible public will talk about for a few days. The Roman emperors had the gladiators to keep their subjects entertained. Noynoy has ABS-CBN’s showbiz tabloid reporters and commentators to keep gullible Filipinos’ attention diverted from the real problems. 'Alleged' sins of the past? They can only be 'alleged' because they have not been proven in the courts yet. Oh well, I am chasing after the wind - allegedly.How many of their accusations were proven true? Erap was convicted of plunder. After his conviction, wala nang “alleged-alleged”. Proven na. So what should Noynoy do? File cases in court if he has proof. The problem is, none of you has any...Just chasing after the wind. Quote Link to comment
laging_nagmamahal Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Of course you won’t see the how and the when. That’s why the word gullible came to be Gullibility cuts both ways. I may be gullible when it comes to the present administration, the same way as others may also be gullible to whatever Aling Gloria says. Does he really have anything against the Marcoses to run after? Or should he be running against his own uncle? Whether he runs after the Marcoses or the Cojuangcos, that would still be seen as vendetta by those who want to look at it that way. If he does not, his inaction would, then, be interpreted as either being weak or simply being dumb. That's a catch 22 situation for Noynoy. As long as GMA is in the political arena, Noynoy and his partymates will be wary of her as a major political opponent. Once we change to Parliamentary system, all of them can run again as Prime Ministers. That’s why there’s continuing litany of demolition jobs being arrayed against GMA. I see this as a very good example of chasing after the wind. GMA was able to plan and implement many of her economic programs despite the noisy opposition. Noynoy does not have anything to show one year after stepping into power. He even use the fruits of the past administration’s efforts and claim them as his own. And the gullible public is lapping it up. There goes the other side of gullibility. It now becomes a matter of personal choice. We are either gullible to Aling Gloria's claims or to Noynoy's rantings. That 'Noynoy does not have anything to show one year after stepping into power' - that's as debatable as 'GMA was able to plan and implement many of her economic programs despite the noisy opposition'. Using the the fruits of the past administration’s efforts and claiming them as his own? This is the first time I came across a claim like this, or am I simply too biased to have overlooked? Noynoy’s government is amateur in policy making and policy execution. They are showbiz when it comes to propaganda and in diverting people’s attention. I offer no contest. An opinion is an opinion. What they are good at is getting the right timing in releasing the chismis and expose’ that their gullible public will talk about for a few days. The Roman emperors had the gladiators to keep their subjects entertained. Noynoy has ABS-CBN’s showbiz tabloid reporters and commentators to keep gullible Filipinos’ attention diverted from the real problems. ...and just because Aling Gloria's attempts at entertaining gullible Filipinos miserably failed, she unleashed PP1017. How many of their accusations were proven true? Erap was convicted of plunder. After his conviction, wala nang “alleged-alleged”. Proven na. So what should Noynoy do? File cases in court if he has proof. The problem is, none of you has any...Just chasing after the wind. Aling Gloria's government filed charges against Erap just three months after Mang Mike cleared the throne for her. Quite fast, ha. Dapat lang. With all the evidences already ripe for the picking courtesy of Congress' impeachment prosecution panel? Plunder charges have already been filed against Aling Gloria and her cohorts quite recently - a little over a year after vacating the post allegedly delivered to her by Manong Garci. Had attempts at impeaching her succeeded and an impeachment trial rolled, a year would have been too long for charges to be filed. Unfortunately, no attempts at impeaching her succeeded allegedly because of the brown envelopes that got distributed in Malacanang's hallowed grounds. Kay Erap, wala na talagang alleged, proven na, e. Naprove na rin ba yung corruption sa panahon ni Aling Cory at ni Noynoy? Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Whether he runs after the Marcoses or the Cojuangcos, that would still be seen as vendetta by those who want to look at it that way. If he does not, his inaction would, then, be interpreted as either being weak or simply being dumb. That's a catch 22 situation for Noynoy.Going after the murderers of his father is not vendetta, it is running after justice. Not going after them, in Noynoy’s case, is weakness and being dumb. I see this as a very good example of chasing after the wind.Just wait. Even Noynoy’s Liberal partymates are rooting for Parliamentary system. There goes the other side of gullibility. It now becomes a matter of personal choice. We are either gullible to Aling Gloria's claims or to Noynoy's rantings. That 'Noynoy does not have anything to show one year after stepping into power' - that's as debatable as 'GMA was able to plan and implement many of her economic programs despite the noisy opposition'. Using the the fruits of the past administration’s efforts and claiming them as his own? This is the first time I came across a claim like this, or am I simply too biased to have overlooked?Yes, you are too biased to have overlooked. For what GMA has accomplished, I have the numbers. I got them from my banker’s economic and financial forecast reports, the business magazines and newspapers, whose authors are hardly gullible. For Noynoy, you just have to also read the business section of the newspapers. Even the businessmen who supported him before are now admitting that his first year in office produced nothing substantial. Aling Gloria's government filed charges against Erap just three months after Mang Mike cleared the throne for her. Quite fast, ha. Dapat lang. With all the evidences already ripe for the picking courtesy of Congress' impeachment prosecution panel?That’s how it should be done. File the case if you have enough evidence. Kung wala, tumahimik na lang muna and build up the case. But Noynoy’s cohorts being showbiz oriented, they can’t help but spread the juicy allegations even before evidences are gathered. Plunder charges have already been filed against Aling Gloria and her cohorts quite recently - a little over a year after vacating the post allegedly delivered to her by Manong Garci. Had attempts at impeaching her succeeded and an impeachment trial rolled, a year would have been too long for charges to be filed. Unfortunately, no attempts at impeaching her succeeded allegedly because of the brown envelopes that got distributed in Malacanang's hallowed grounds.Being filed? Sure, for media exposure. By whom? By those who are interested in running for the 2012 elections. That’s why no attempt at going after GMA will succeed. It is because above all else, it is politically motivated. Quote Link to comment
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