Edmund Dantes Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Ayun ... kaya ang henyong solusyon mo e magpetik-petiks sa sparring para maiwasan ang injury. E sandali ...bakit pa nating pinagtrain. SAna nga naman nag shadow box na lang mas malaking chance na di talaga ma-injured. Mahirap talaga umintindi??? Hindi po ba kaya nga ang sabi ko he is not responsible for the injury as it was an accident but it does not mean he should not accept defeat. So accept it fully! Don't bring up excuses. Accept that the outcome was your responsibility. Hindi yung "talo kaya lang......". No buts ifs or maybes. No coulda woulda shoulda. Champions should not make excuses. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 So accept it fully! Don't bring up excuses. Accept that the outcome was your responsibility. Hindi yung "talo kaya lang......". No buts ifs or maybes. No coulda woulda shoulda. Champions should not make excuses. So pagtinanong ka ng boss mo ...why did you not meet your sales target. Mananahimik ka na lang at sasabihing sorry I am responsible for that even it the reason why you can't sell is because nasira ang makina at walang production sa pabrika. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 So pagtinanong ka ng boss mo ...why did you not meet your sales target. Mananahimik ka na lang at sasabihing sorry I am responsible for that even it the reason why you can't sell is because nasira ang makina at walang production sa pabrika. I never really worked in a corporate environment (baka sabihin mo nanaman masyado ako nagmamarunong ako) But yes I would apologize and take responsibility. Since he asked me why the target was not met, then I will give this as a reason but not use it as a valid excuse. Kasi ang pinaguusapan dito at the end of the day, nangako ako di ba? Parang Idol mo, nangako sya na 100% syang handa at tatalunin nya mayweather. lol. Ngayon kung nagkaroon ng ganyan aberya, maybe I would have called my boss immediately and tell him sira yung makina. And Id find ways to still meet the goals I promised. If I fail, Ill take responsibility and assure him na I took all the lessons I need to learn from the incident. Like it or not, unexpected problems come along the way. You deal with it and accept responsibility Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) I watched the fight and Manny didn't hold back or wince in pain when he punched. So I deduce that he could fight through the pain. Si Mayweather na nga nagsabi, his punches were fast so the injury wasn't a factor in Pacquiao's defeat. everyone has an opinion... but to see the compubox stats that pacquiao to be out punch by Mayweather there is really something wrong with Pacquiao! could the injury be the culprit? possible... hindi nman tyo mga professional boxers to experience what kind of pain pacquiao experience on that fight night due to that injury.... imo a boxer with an injury then hahabulin mo pa yung kalaban mahirap gawin yun! would the shot of pain reliever change the result? who knows! its too late for Team Pacquiao to make excuses... Edited May 8, 2015 by darksoulriver Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) I never really worked in a corporate environment (baka sabihin mo nanaman masyado ako nagmamarunong ako) But yes I would apologize and take responsibility. Since he asked me why the target was not met, then I will give this as a reason but not use it as a valid excuse. Kasi ang pinaguusapan dito at the end of the day, nangako ako di ba? Parang Idol mo, nangako sya na 100% syang handa at tatalunin nya mayweather. lol. Ngayon kung nagkaroon ng ganyan aberya, maybe I would have called my boss immediately and tell him sira yung makina. And Id find ways to still meet the goals I promised. If I fail, Ill take responsibility and assure him na I took all the lessons I need to learn from the incident. Like it or not, unexpected problems come along the way. You deal with it and accept responsibility hindi kaya ganun lang din naman ang nangyari nun dinisclose nila ang injury after the fight sa presscon? Natalo si Pacman, tinanong bakit ganun ang performance at alam na natin ang sinagot. Yun ang pananaw ko ... pero tulad ng sinabi ko na sabihin na panalo siya hindi tama. Kasi ako mismo nasabi ko na I scored the fight in Floyd's favor. I just don't agree with the lopsided scoring of one judge.So aakuin mo rin ang kasalanan ng pagkasira ng makina? Edited May 8, 2015 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 everyone has an opinion... but to see the compubox stats that pacquiao to be out punch by Mayweather there is really something wrong with Pacquiao! could the injury be the culprit? possible... hindi nman tyo mga professional boxers to experience what kind of pain pacquiao experience on that fight night due to that injury.... imo a boxer with an injury then hahabulin mo pa yung kalaban mahirap gawin yun! would the shot of pain reliever change the result? who knows! its too late for Team Pacquiao to make excuses... Thats true. Mas ok pa nga siguro kung humingi na lang sila ng postponement. Kesa naman ganyan na magsisinungaling pa sa NSAC at gagamitin pa itong palusot pagkatapos matalo. OK andun na tayo. Mahirap makipagsuntukan kapag masakit ang braso mo at pilay. But the responsibility has to fall on someone at the end of the day. Alangan naman kasalanan yan ni Mayweather? Isa pa, he made the decision to go on and push through with the fight. So at the end of the day, ke natalo sya for not being the better fighter or not being at his 100% best, thats his fault. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 hindi kaya ganun lang din naman ang nangyari nun dinisclose nila ang injury after the fight sa presscon? Natalo si Pacman, tinanong bakit ganun ang performance at alam na natin ang sinagot. Yun ang pananaw ko ... pero tulad ng sinabi ko na sabihin na panalo siya hindi tama. Kasi ako mismo nasabi ko na I scored the fight in Floyd's favor. I just don't agree with the lopsided scoring of one judge. Lol, its not just what he said, but the way he actually said it. Sya na nga itong hindi nagdisclose, pagkatapos, sasabihin sinabotahe sila ng NSAC. So halatang gumagawa ka lang ng palusot di ba? And its not just that, he can't even give full credit to Floyd. Blaming na he was running and clinching all th time. Nampowtek, 4 na beses ko na napanood laban. I can't see how there was any running. And the clinch? It does happen naman. Was it excessive? Sus mas maraming clinch pa nga sa Tyson Lewis fight. All in all, he lost because a better competitor beat him. Period. Accept that without the coulda-woulda-shoulda Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Lol, its not just what he said, but the way he actually said it. Sya na nga itong hindi nagdisclose, pagkatapos, sasabihin sinabotahe sila ng NSAC. So halatang gumagawa ka lang ng palusot di ba? And its not just that, he can't even give full credit to Floyd. Blaming na he was running and clinching all th time. Nampowtek, 4 na beses ko na napanood laban. I can't see how there was any running. And the clinch? It does happen naman. Was it excessive? Sus mas maraming clinch pa nga sa Tyson Lewis fight. All in all, he lost because a better competitor beat him. Period. Accept that without the coulda-woulda-shoulda Oh well I think we agree on one thing ... He lost the fight and I am one with you that no excuses, But to say that he is responsible for the injury ... yun lang ang pinagtatalunan natin from the start. Tanong ko nga e ...sa example ko aakuin mo ba na ikaw ang may kasalanan sa pagkasira ng makina na wala ka namang kinalaman? That is essentially my point ... He should be responsible for the loss meaning even with the injury he should be gracious ... but he is can't be held responsible for the injury. Kaya nga tinanong kita anong ginawa nilang mali kaya nagkainjury. He got it in sparring while preparing ... hindi naman siguro tama na light training lang para iwas injury. By doing that they are not being responsible din in preparing for TBE dalawang issue yan wag mong i-combine Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Oh well I think we agree on one thing ... He lost the fight and I am one with you that no excuses, But to say that he is responsible for the injury ... yun lang ang pinagtatalunan natin from the start. Tanong ko nga e ...sa example ko aakuin mo ba na ikaw ang may kasalanan sa pagkasira ng makina na wala ka namang kinalaman? That is essentially my point ... He should be responsible for the loss meaning even with the injury he should be gracious ... but he is can't be held responsible for the injury. Kaya nga tinanong kita anong ginawa nilang mali kaya nagkainjury. He got it in sparring while preparing ... hindi naman siguro tama na light training lang para iwas injury. By doing that they are not being responsible din in preparing for TBE dalawang issue yan wag mong i-combine In a way, I will take responsibility for it. If I screw up, I will not use it as an excuse. Id ask myself what could I have done better? How do I prevent this again from happening next time? Should I have closely monitored production? Should I have called people early on and tell them me problema so they wont expect so much of me? In the end, I understand that in life, when you screw up nobody is really interested in hearing your excuses. Nangako ako na I will meet a certain goal, and I didn't. Thats the long and the short of it. Kahit pa anong problema dumating, its my responsibility to deal with it. This is basic philosophy of success Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 In a way, I will take responsibility for it. If I screw up, I will not use it as an excuse. Id ask myself what could I have done better? How do I prevent this again from happening next time? Should I have closely monitored production? Should I have called people early on and tell them me problema so they wont expect so much of me? In the end, I understand that in life, when you screw up nobody is really interested in hearing your excuses. Nangako ako na I will meet a certain goal, and I didn't. Thats the long and the short of it. Kahit pa anong problema dumating, its my responsibility to deal with it. This is basic philosophy of successOne of the thing you said is that you will be asking yourself what you could have done better... Kaya nga kita tinanong diba, ano ba dapat nila ginawa para maiwasan ang injury. Una sinabi mo you don't know ... Then you're telling me sana naghinay-hinay ng training. Nakakatawa lang na ang suggestion kasi how can you win kung petiks sa training? Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Should I have called people early on and tell them me problema so they wont expect so much of me? Telling people there is a problem with the intent that they lower expectations is in a way making excuses ahead of your failure. Doers disclose the problem but still assures it will be done and does not expect people to be easy on them. Quote Link to comment
gwapingsz1 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I wanted Pacquiao to win to shut Floyd's mouth up. However, I also gave credit to Floyd for mastering the score card. His style is very unique and casual boxing fans will not appreciate it. He may not be the most exciting fighter in the world but he is doing a great job at winning, so far. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 naalala ko dati medyas ang sinisisi ni pacman hehe. oh yes...i remember this. nagputok-putok daw yata yung sakong niya kaya hindi makagalaw Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 One of the thing you said is that you will be asking yourself what you could have done better... Kaya nga kita tinanong diba, ano ba dapat nila ginawa para maiwasan ang injury. Una sinabi mo you don't know ... Then you're telling me sana naghinay-hinay ng training. Nakakatawa lang na ang suggestion kasi how can you win kung petiks sa training? Alam mo nagiging chicken and egg debate na lang ito. paulit ulit ka na lang sa totoo lang. I suggested a few things that they could have done to better monitor the shoulder while in training. I even suggested on what steps they could have taken when the injury happened, instead of lying and making excuses. Makitid ba talaga sobra pagiisip mo para di tanggapin yan? Anong gusto mo sabihin? Marunong pa ako sa team pacquiao? Wala naman ako sa training camp? Eh ikaw din naman eh, wala ka din naman sa training camp so papano mo nasabi lahat ng ginawa nila tama? Hay ang kulit, ang kulit, ang kuuliiiiiiiit. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Telling people there is a problem with the intent that they lower expectations is in a way making excuses ahead of your failure. Doers disclose the problem but still assures it will be done and does not expect people to be easy on them. You know, feeling ko mas matanda ako sayo. Alam mo bata, that is not making excuses. It is informing the proper people something of note. Its part of the responsibility. Alangan naman sabihin ko yan pag tapos na deadline? Parang idol mo, something of note injury na yan, dapat siguro di sila nagsinungaling sa NSAC Isa pa, its also your responsibility to make sure expectations are reasonable. Sa annalogy natin, di naman komo ininform ko superiors ko na me problema eh ibig sabihin na nun di ko na gagawan paraan at tutunganga na lang ako. Pero pag sablay pa din. Ill take responsibility for what happened and promise to ensure these things will be prevented Sabi ko nga, di ko alam ang industry mo. But if you wanna be successful at anything you try. DO not make excuses. If you fail, then accept it. Just hope you will be given another shot to do better. Ok na sana eh, me rematch naman daw. Eh kaso nagpalusot yan tuloy Quote Link to comment
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