junix Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It all boils down to perspective. Pinoy kasi nanonood kaya ang consentration nila sa mga suntok lang ni Pacman. Their mind tend to ignore the numerous jabs of Floyd. Kapag nakasuntok si pacman ng malakas at pumasok, sigawan pero ang kapalit nuon five jabs by Floyd. Kaya akala ng mga bitter sa Facebook si Pacman ang maraming napatama. Its all in the mind lang. May kinakampihan kasi. I viewed the fight sa basketball court namin and during the end of the right marami nang umuwi umiiling without even waiting for the final announcement of decision. Sa puso nila talo ang ating Pambansang Kamao very well said chief...first round pa lang nung nakatama si manny sigawan na ang mga tao. di nakikita ng mga kapitbahay ko yung mga jabs ni floyd. they didn't seem to notice that one punch of manny, which did not even solidly graze the face of floyd, was countered by a flurry of jabs from floyd. ang sabi ko nga dun sa isang sinulat ko, manny wanted a spectacular win. yung floyd naman, basta may puntos okay na sa kanya because for him, at the end of the fight, basta hindi mo siya napabagsak, panalo na siya, this was how floyd fought and will fight. hindi mag-iiba yan. boring? well, talagang ganyan ang scoring sa boxing. unless mag-iba ang scoring ng boxing na may deduction ang umiiwas sa suntok Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 very well said chief...first round pa lang nung nakatama si manny sigawan na ang mga tao. di nakikita ng mga kapitbahay ko yung mga jabs ni floyd. they didn't seem to notice that one punch of manny, which did not even solidly graze the face of floyd, was countered by a flurry of jabs from floyd. ang sabi ko nga dun sa isang sinulat ko, manny wanted a spectacular win. yung floyd naman, basta may puntos okay na sa kanya because for him, at the end of the fight, basta hindi mo siya napabagsak, panalo na siya, this was how floyd fought and will fight. hindi mag-iiba yan. boring? well, talagang ganyan ang scoring sa boxing. unless mag-iba ang scoring ng boxing na may deduction ang umiiwas sa suntok Ang sabi dala na daw ng kasikatan ng Rocky series kaya ang expectation ng tao sa boxing dapat laging bugbugan at basagan ng mukha lol. Ganun talaga eh, sometimes, tactical finesse din sya. If competitor ka and all you care about is winning, talagang you won't make too many risks. At the same time, tama ka din na malayong malayo yung Manny na nakita natin nung sun sa Manny na talagang hinangaan natin. Last great performance nya kay Plasterito. He wasn't really pressing the attack. Baka natakot na din siguro maulit yung kay Marquez Pero tingin ko, dahil maraming pilipino ang pikon at totoong sore loser, kahit pa ano ang naging laban, basta talo si Manny, laging maghahanap ng palusot at panay sour graping. It does not matter kung maaksyon sya or boring. Kung matalo Pacquiao via KO or via decision lol Quote Link to comment
glut_func Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 win or lose, both fighters are probably laughing their ass off on their way to the bank... Quote Link to comment
silipmanok Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Nabasa ko sa news today na mag undergo ng surgery si pacquiao para dun sa injury nya aya right shoulder. 9-12 months ang recovery period. Obviously naging factor yun kaya medyo hndi sya makatuloy tuloy ng attack. And siguro maparetire na sya ng maaga dahil sa injury nya. Quote Link to comment
bughaw1 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Guys, Any of you wanna start a new boxing thread? Kahit general lang.sana meron nga sir. Quote Link to comment
disasterpiece Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 What surprised me lang was the 118-110 score given by one of the judge. I think it was closer than that, though I agree talo si Manny, 115-113 would've been more just. Mautak talaga si Mayweather, hindi sya nakipaglaro sa gustong laban ni Pacman, kasi alam nya pag nakipag sabayan sya may kalalagyan sya, he was the usual Floyd sa loob ng ring which is still 100% efficient sa lahat ng nakalaban nya. kaya nga wala pa syang talo. Quote Link to comment
BALA SUBAS Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 What surprised me lang was the 118-110 score given by one of the judge. I think it was closer than that, though I agree talo si Manny, 115-113 would've been more just. Mautak talaga si Mayweather, hindi sya nakipaglaro sa gustong laban ni Pacman, kasi alam nya pag nakipag sabayan sya may kalalagyan sya, he was the usual Floyd sa loob ng ring which is still 100% efficient sa lahat ng nakalaban nya. kaya nga wala pa syang talo. kung walang injury si manny at dalawang kamay ang gumagana sa kanya, pwede nya manalo or mabugbog si Floyd. which was evident on round 4. sayang lang at bumigay na ang right shoulder ni pacman. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Madami pa din ang hindi makamove on talaga. Kahit si Manny sobrang bitter pa din. Ayan sabi ni Mayweather, pagkatapos magpagaling ni Pacquiao, pwede nya bigyan ng rematch. Kahit sabi nya retire na sya after a September bout. The results will be the same though. Floyd will use intelligence and not muscle as he always does. And no matter what the result is, basta talo si Manny, hindi yan tatangapin ng Pinoy. Pag talo sa puntos, daya. Pag talo dahil napatulog, chamba Quote Link to comment
glut_func Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 ^you forgot the favorite alibi: na-mafia daw Quote Link to comment
junix Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Madami pa din ang hindi makamove on talaga. Kahit si Manny sobrang bitter pa din. Ayan sabi ni Mayweather, pagkatapos magpagaling ni Pacquiao, pwede nya bigyan ng rematch. Kahit sabi nya retire na sya after a September bout. The results will be the same though. Floyd will use intelligence and not muscle as he always does. And no matter what the result is, basta talo si Manny, hindi yan tatangapin ng Pinoy. Pag talo sa puntos, daya. Pag talo dahil napatulog, chamba parang politikong pinoy ah...kabig lahat nonetheless, after all the debates, squabbling and bickering, at the end of the day it's still a spotless record for floyd "money" mayweather, jr. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 ^you forgot the favorite alibi: na-mafia daw Ayaw daw makipagsuntukan ni Mayweather, pero sa punch stats, sya nga itong mas maraming suntok na naipatama. Lol. Yung mga celebs na nagsasabi na dapat panalo si Pacquiao, obviously fanboyism na lang ito. Kasi nga, lahat naman halos na major sports outlet na naupo at ringside sabi panalo talaga Mayweather. Given all that, there is no controversy here. Its clear manny got outpointed. There is no need for sour grape statements like "Oh but Manny is the true champion.... he fought like a warrior... Nobody loves Floyd huhuhuhu". Remember Pacquiao Marquez 3? Eh di ba dami ding ringside media outlets ang nagsabi Panalo naman dapat dun si Marquez? Naboo pa nga decision eh. Pero ano sabi ng pinoy fans? "A win is a win". Tapos ginawan pa ng issue yung pangaapak ni Marquez, samantalang naapakan din naman ni Manny is Marquez ilang beses Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 parang politikong pinoy ah...kabig lahat nonetheless, after all the debates, squabbling and bickering, at the end of the day it's still a spotless record for floyd "money" mayweather, jr. OO nga no. Basta talo dinaya ng kalaban. On the Flip side Manny has a good fanbase na lagi sya pagtatangol anot ano man. Few celebrities have that bragging rights. I mean this guy can never ever fall from grace. The media did a good job building his myth. Now he is bigger than Jesus Christ sa mga Filipinos. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) ^you forgot the favorite alibi: na-mafia daw Ayaw daw makipagsuntukan ni Mayweather, pero sa punch stats, sya nga itong mas maraming suntok na naipatama. Lol. Yung mga celebs na nagsasabi na dapat panalo si Pacquiao, obviously fanboyism na lang ito. Kasi nga, lahat naman halos na major sports outlet na naupo at ringside sabi panalo talaga Mayweather. Given all that, there is no controversy here. Its clear manny got outpointed. There is no need for sour grape statements like "Oh but Manny is the true champion.... he fought like a warrior... Nobody loves Floyd huhuhuhu". Remember Pacquiao Marquez 3? Eh di ba dami ding ringside media outlets ang nagsabi Panalo naman dapat dun si Marquez? Naboo pa nga decision eh. Pero ano sabi ng pinoy fans? "A win is a win". Tapos ginawan pa ng issue yung pangaapak ni Marquez, samantalang naapakan din naman ni Manny is Marquez ilang beses exactly!!! res ipsa loquitur...let the stats speak for itself. one more thing, di din masyado nakatama si manny. so ganun lang yun. and i remember watching this guy who was holding a bottle of beer being interviewed by a reporter of a local channel, halos mapatid ang ugat sa leeg nagrereklamo at sinasasabi niyang na-mafia si manny. i bet this fellow doesn't even know the meaning of mafia OO nga no. Basta talo dinaya ng kalaban. On the Flip side Manny has a good fanbase na lagi sya pagtatangol anot ano man. Few celebrities have that bragging rights. I mean this guy can never ever fall from grace. The media did a good job building his myth. Now he is bigger than Jesus Christ sa mga Filipinos. immortal demigod...teka...sobra-sobra yata...immortal na demigod pa oh definitely yes...manny sure has a lot of fan base...and seriously, i believe media has a lot to do with this. Edited May 6, 2015 by junix Quote Link to comment
glut_func Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Tapos ginawan pa ng issue yung pangaapak ni Marquez, samantalang naapakan din naman ni Manny is Marquez ilang beses correct me if im wrong pero during the time PM got a clean hit to his chin was the time he tried to step on marquez as well...so ang nangyari, the flips got to see their idolo kiss the matt for the first time in his professional career.... Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 exactly!!! res ipsa loquitur...let the stats speak for itself. one more thing, di din masyado nakatama si manny. so ganun lang yun. and i remember watching this guy who was holding a bottle of beer being interviewed by a reporter of a local channel, halos mapatid ang ugat sa leeg nagrereklamo at sinasasabi niyang na-mafia si manny. i bet this fellow doesn't even know the meaning of mafia immortal demigod...teka...sobra-sobra yata...immortal na demigod pa oh definitely yes...manny sure has a lot of fan base...and seriously, i believe media has a lot to do with this. The media and the politicians helped build the myth of Manny Pacquiao. At the time, it came fortunate for everyone na sumabit sa tagumpay nya. Syempre many people felt so hopeless and desperate. This country needed to look good and it does not have much to be proud of. Why not use this guys popularity to uplift some spirits and make the world somehow think na "Hey Filipinos are awesome". In principle, wala naman kasi masama sana dito. Ang problema lang, masyado na naging OA. From pinoy pride syndrome that translated to Pinoy Nazism, naging idolatry na ito. Lahat na lang ng gawin ni Pacquiao aprub. Ni hindi sya nababatikos masyado sa mga pambabae nya. O kaya yun na lang sa lagi nyang pagiging absent sa congresso. Bat di sya pinupuna ng media? Im not saying Manny is a bad person. But lets face it, he is a poster boy. Yung mga pananawagan nya ng pagkakaisa kunwari pagkatapos ng laban, I bet me instructions sa kanya para sabihin yun. All in all, Manny reaped the rewards of good publicity. Kahit pa magkaroon yan ng sex video ala R. Kelly, pustahan tayo hindi pa din babaho pangalan ni Pacquiao? correct me if im wrong pero during the time PM got a clean hit to his chin was the time he tried to step on marquez as well...so ang nangyari, the flips got to see their idolo kiss the matt for the first time in his professional career.... Yeah thats pretty much what happened in the 4th fight. Yung pangaapak, si Chino Trinidad naman nagpalaki ng issue na yun. Nung 3rd fight kasi, very controversial yung decision, many really saw na Marquez should have won. Its one of those victories where Manny did not receive much praise and new fans. In fact, I remember the headline of the yahoo article that read "Invincible No More!". Tapos ayun yung palusot, panay pangaapak daw si Marquez. Eh pinakita din naman na ilang beses nangapak din si Manny kay Marquez. Tapos nung 4th fight, nung napatulog si Manny, lucky punch lang daw. Chamba lang. Ayaw bigyan ng full credit si Marquez na pinakitang determinado syang manalo talaga. 6 na buwan nga daw nagpakundisyon yung tao. Samantalang si Manny nung time na yun, panay bulakbol. Sa gensan pa nagtraining kasi kelangan ikampanya si Bobby. lol Quote Link to comment
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