Larry Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Confirmed ba na may automatic rematch clause yung contract nila dito? Kasi kung meron at pera-pera lang habol ni Pacquiao eh wala talaga sya incentive na seryosohin yung training kasi sigurado na may pangalawang laban na pera na naman para sa kanya. After his two losses eh it wouldn't be surprising na may "nothing to lose" mentality na yung tao kasi wala na sya record or winning streak na pinangangalagaan. Si Mayweather meron. Kung walang automatic rematch clause sigurado na hindi na lalaban ulit itong si Mayweather. Perfect way for him to retire. Undisputed pound-for-pound boxer of his time. Kung manalo lang si Pacquiao papayag ulit yan na may rematch. Kahit na "Money" ang tawag kay Mayweather eh si Pacquaio naman talaga yung mas pera lang ang habol. Kailangan eh, to keep up with his newfound lifestyle. Only Mayweather has a rematch clause, if May loses, the rematch is automatic. No rematch clause for Manny. If he loses that's it. i have read from one article, sinabi ni alex ariza na sa last 4 bouts ni manny, wala naman daw pinagbago or new strategy sa mga trainings niya kaya hindi nya ma KO ang mga kalaban niya... malamang daw ganun din ang gawin nila kay Floyd dahil pera pera lang ang habol nila pareho... for me huwag naman sana na ganito ulit ang mentality ng team pacquiao this time. sana may concrete plan sila and strategy on how to beat Mayweather. Lol @ believing anything Alex Ariza says. Quote Link to comment
shadow555 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Interesting, pwedeng conspiracy theory. Kung ako si Mayweather, away ko na nga magka rematch kung ako manalo, perfect record, retire na.Pero kung gusto ko nang pera at ako si Mayweather, patalo ako tapos rematch manalo ako, eh 1 defeat pero doble kita. Kung ako si Manny, tapos pera lang habol, gusto ko parin manalo diba? Panalo na, may rematch pa doble kita.So there is a lot of incentive for Manny to win this fight talaga. Sa NO losses ni Mayweather at sa mga talo ni Pacquaio, di ko sure. Sabi ni Mayweather, when you lose or get knocked out, it stays with you. On the other hand, what is one more talo kay Manny? So dapat all in siya diba?Si Mayweather siguro mas may kaba na matalo siya for the first time, kaya baka maging conservative siya, which is anyway his game plan naman... to fight "smart". I saw the video that Edmund posted, interesting video about Mayweather and some insights about Bob Arum, etc. When he was young, he would still thank the person "above" for his wins, pero not sure if he still does it now. Also realized that he was still young when he said that he is doing his "attitude" to get the money. But he did say something that made me think that he is doing it not just to get money, but he really thinks that way nga talaga. He just says that he does what is normal, so normal talaga na trash talker siya, not just for show. Well that is what I understood from his statement. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 ^^^ I found the HBO documentary more entertaining than the one produced by showtime. Natawa pa ako sa ending music dun sa documentary ng HBO hahahahahaha. Pasaring talaga. Although, that isn't saying much either kasi Masyadong biased yung perspectives nung magkahiwalay na palabas. Syempre yung sa showtime, puro kay Floyd lang lahat. Yung sa HBO puros kay Manny lang. Now as I have said before, I truly believe na its not ALL Mayweathers fault kung bakit di matuloy tuloy ang laban na ito. I actually thought, Mayweather acted like a bully forcing his demands for stricter dope testing. While ok yung idea siguro in paper lalo sa UFC dami nahuhuli dyan, sana ginawa ni Mayweather nagappeal sya sa mga athletic commissions na palitan protocol nila para lahat ng boxingero lalabanan nya man o hindi eh magpapatest din. Kasi how can he clean up the sport when puros yung mga lalabanan nya lang ang gusto nya magtest. But it didnt help either yung masyadong pagpapakipot ni Pacquiao considering na ang lame naman ng excuse nya. Sa hatian, tama na si Floyd dapat ang may lion share considering na sya naman ang may hawak ng mas mataas na PPV records. Tingin ko dito, he really wanted to negotiate the fight himself kay Pacquiao ng walang pakikialam promoters nya. That incident in Miami proved more or less na tama ako. Now going back to the docu. The hero is boring without the villain. It felt like kwento nanaman ng rags to riches story ni Pacquiao na paulitulit na lang natin naririnig. Na he is the great hope for our country, he is god-fearing, he is a humble guy blah blah blah. And Mayweather? I expected him to be a better villain in this series pero pano kung laging perspective nya lang ang pinapalabas sa showtime. I expected actually both of them to clash with speeches before the fight itself. Thats what made 24/7 interesting. Now its just blaaaaaaaaaaah. In terms of being informative though tungkol sa history nila, mas ok yung sa HBO. Kaso lang, may part 2 pa kasi yung sa showtime, so baka mas ok yung 2 or 3 episodes pa. Nonetheless, its the fight lang naman we are all after so lets wait and see how it all plays out Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2436445-mayweather-vs-pacquiao-floyd-sr-slams-moneys-conditioning-coach-alex-ariza Very interesting. Lol. It seems tama nga yata si Ka Freddie na atribida masyado itong si Alex Ariza at gusto gawin trabaho ng lahat. Hindi rin sya nagtagal sa kampo ni Robert Garcia, at mukhang di rin sya magtatagal dito TMT. Mukhang totoo ngang may attitude problem si Ariza Well at the end of the day, its not trainers who will be at that center of the ring to fight Edited April 21, 2015 by Edmund Dantes Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 the HBO documentary is so much more than the Showtime version, and I'm not talking about the content the 24/7 team just has so much more talent than anyone else (that includes the ESPN 30 for 30 guys). They're playing a whole different ball game than anyone else, and they truly are the masters of hype. I watched the showtime version and it bored me, there was nothing in the first episode that got me excited about the fight, it was a lot of Floyd breast beating that we've all seen before, whereas the HBO one had the whole lead up to the fight, from the first negotiations, to the drug testing, to Roach's waiter, things that casual viewers don't know about. And they built it up properly and made you excited about how it was going down. I didn't even feel like it was heavily biased towards Pacquiao either, the whole thing was about how the fight was made. And of course Liev Shrieber does a great job narrating the whole thing. Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2436445-mayweather-vs-pacquiao-floyd-sr-slams-moneys-conditioning-coach-alex-ariza Very interesting. Lol. It seems tama nga yata si Ka Freddie na atribida masyado itong si Alex Ariza at gusto gawin trabaho ng lahat. Hindi rin sya nagtagal sa kampo ni Robert Garcia, at mukhang di rin sya magtatagal dito TMT. Mukhang totoo ngang may attitude problem si Ariza Well at the end of the day, its not trainers who will be at that center of the ring to fight this is what's most interesting to me He don’t know s--t anyways, he don’t anything about no damn boxing, I do know that. I know he doesn’t know anything about boxing and he don’t know what to tell anyone anyways. If he does know anything, it’s some dirty s--t and it’s something that nobody wants to use or hear about. Nobody is into that kind of mess. It's pretty obvious what Floyd Sr. is talking about here, especially given the reports that Memo Heredia was seen in the Mayweather camp talking to Ariza. And whenever you see Memo at any sort of training camp, you can be 90% sure that some shady sh1t is going down. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 ^^ Here is the article http://www.fighthype.com/news/article19637.html Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 lol Memo is a world class cheat http://deadspin.com/5857439/what-do-usain-bolt-and-juan-manuel-marquez-have-in-common-they-train-with-the-same-admitted-steroids-dealer After the BALCO scandal ( which he testified to save his own skin) he even changed his name to Angel Hernandez. But admittedly this guy is way ahead of the game when it comes to performance enhancing drugs. He really knows his s@%t. He's just not a world class trainer. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 the HBO documentary is so much more than the Showtime version, and I'm not talking about the content the 24/7 team just has so much more talent than anyone else (that includes the ESPN 30 for 30 guys). They're playing a whole different ball game than anyone else, and they truly are the masters of hype. I watched the showtime version and it bored me, there was nothing in the first episode that got me excited about the fight, it was a lot of Floyd breast beating that we've all seen before, whereas the HBO one had the whole lead up to the fight, from the first negotiations, to the drug testing, to Roach's waiter, things that casual viewers don't know about. And they built it up properly and made you excited about how it was going down. I didn't even feel like it was heavily biased towards Pacquiao either, the whole thing was about how the fight was made. And of course Liev Shrieber does a great job narrating the whole thing. I agree that the HBO documentary was overall better produced than showtime's. The HBO documentary was more entertaining although it is a biased perspective. Obviously that's because Mayweather and his entire camps perspective could be heard in the opposite show. I never enjoyed the showtime documentaries. They really need to put a better team to produce their prefight docuseries. It could use a better script (for the narrators), better scoring, better editing etc. I guess one reason this is a bit of a letdown is because we are expecting to see an actual conflict before the fight itself. ANd how can there be any real conflict when the two are on separate shows? It would have been perfect. Hero Vs the Villain. Clash of insights from both in one show. Oh well.... lets just look forward to the fight itself. Cotto Margarito 2, now thats my favorite 24/7 episode although it had only 2 episodes. It had everything you want in a prefight docuseries Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Whoa Still no tickets on sale for the general public Contracts for the hotel arrangement and some promotional responsibilities have not yet been signed WHAT ON EARTH IS GOING ON HERE? All fingers are pointing to Ellorbe and Mayweathers management team who are now being accused of manipulating ticket sales way too much. Is this still legal ba? Not only is it becoming the most expensive fight ever, its now becoming the most difficult fight to get tickets too. Parang me isa dito na masyado naman nagiging switik na. Anyway, I think matutuloy pa din naman ang laban. Kahit pa siguro 2 hours before the fight magrelease ng tickets, marami pa din manonood. Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 tickets are already spoken for both camps split the tickets to sell themselves and MGM has a portion to sell to their high rollers, word is you have to have a credit line of $250k it's either you know someone from either camp, or you go to the casino directly and be ready to fork over truckloads of cash. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 tickets are already spoken for both camps split the tickets to sell themselves and MGM has a portion to sell to their high rollers, word is you have to have a credit line of $250k it's either you know someone from either camp, or you go to the casino directly and be ready to fork over truckloads of cash. Panis ito sa mga maraming senador o congressman na pupunta sa las vegas lol. Seriously, its definitely gonna make guiness world record, and hopefully the fight itself lives up to it. For the most expensive fight ever, Manny has to come up with the cheesiest entrance music. Its even in Filipino which wont be understood by non-Filipinos in the audience. Quote Link to comment
dinibdib Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 11 days to go for the big event Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Troubling news http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12736671/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-contract-not-signed Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao contract still not signed Eleven days before the fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, an actual contract for the bout to take place at the MGM Grand still has not been signed.Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.com on Tuesday that he wasn't signing the contract that he received a draft of on April 15 because it wasn't what he agreed to when the MGM, Mayweather Promotions and he signed the term sheet a couple months ago."We agreed that we would all be signatories on the final contract and then they sent us a draft of the agreement and it excluded us," said Arum, who promotes Pacquiao.Not being a signatory to the contract means that Top Rank wouldn't have control of decisions during the fight, including in-arena production, video content and music."They don't want us to have any say," Arum said. "So whether they came up with the deal between Mayweather and MGM before or after our agreement, they've committed fraud either way. That's what we're enmeshed in."Arum said later Tuesday night that, after asking for three weeks, he finally received the manifest, which carves out who gets seats where."It's one of the things I was most concerned about," said Arum, adding that he thinks it's possible the contract gets signed Tuesday night or Wednesday morning. more at the link ------- Quote Link to comment
Doctor Juris Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 isang linggo nalang pacman na!!!!!!! please post a livefeed dahil nagtitipid kami sa pay per view hehehehe. 6-7 round tko for pacman, hwag lang matsambahan ni gayweather. papagurin ni pacman ang kalaban at iiptin sa ropes.....sana. Quote Link to comment
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