Mad Damian Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 If ypu think the Italian game was bad, NAKU, we're getting kulled by a more talented team tonight. Its always the coach's role to motovate and calm down their players. One of the best Filipino coaches to do so is Eric Spoelstra. Wish we can get him. Quote Link to comment
kamvilarn Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Guys, be kind to Coach Yeng. The time will come when he will turn our players into intimidating monsters on the court! Medyo soft at ninenerbiyos pa ang ilang players natin. Quote Link to comment
Maj Mujtaba Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 How Gilas fare w/ Italy will be the gauge how far it will go in this tournament. Play decent against Serbia, am not expecting a WIN. But when we play w/ Angola, give them HELL. Quote Link to comment
PreventerWind Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 3 conference format pa haha. Mas mahalaga daw kasi yung PBA kesa World cup at karangalan ng bansa. Ampuchang preparation time yan dinaig pa yung US Team eh akala mo Generation of Miracles yung mga player ng Gilas 😂 Edited September 2, 2019 by Mr. Bushido Quote Link to comment
junix Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 conference format pa haha. Mas mahalaga daw kasi yung PBA kesa World cup at karangalan ng bansa. Ampuchang preparation time yan dinaig pa yung US Team eh akala mo Generation of Miracles yung mga player ng Gilas 😂exactly...pili dito, pili doon...training ng 2 months at sabak sa fiba world. nadisgrasya!!! can't the pba sacrifice its schedule for the sake of the country? alam naman ng pba ang mga schedule ng fiba asia, fiba world, asian games. anak ng p#@*!? pag ganyan ang programa natin hanggang sea games lang tayo maghahari. at kung hindi tayo mag-iingat baka maungusan tayo ng singapore o kaya indonesia. Quote Link to comment
kelvingastelum1989 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) We can't compete or do well sa International stage (Olympics, FIBA World Cup, Asian Games). The only solution is to start by building a team from scratch. Ung mga tipong bata pa lang mga Under 14 talents pa lang simulan ng itrain ng international coach and not PBA coaches. Start from the basics and fundamentals of the game, focus on shooting and ball movement. Hindi ung turuan mamisikal, manira, mambalya. Have a system na suitable on our height, physical kills, and athleticism. Model our brand of game sa mga European countries. We lack athleticism and height to compete kaya magfocus sa shooting and ball movement. Pansinin nyo sa NBA, nagevolve na ung laro, it's more on getting small rather than getting big line up. Small ball na, kaya sana gawin natin un as advantage as we Filipinos lack in height. Next point is, never allow that team to go and play professionally, kung kelangan swelduhan ung mga bata habang lumalaki at nagmamature dapat gawin, kasi kung ittrain natin ung mga bata, pero ang ending maglalaro sa PBA para kumita ng pera wala din mangyayari. Babalik din tayo na ung mga players natin, kukunin pa din sa PBA. Pero malabo to mangyari lalo na kung di nman tlaga pagtutunan ng pansin dito sa bansa natin. Magugulat nlang tayo after ilang years, ung mga neighboring countries natin from Southeast Asia mas gumaling pa satin pagdating sa basketball. Edited September 2, 2019 by kelvingastelum1989 1 Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 If I remember it well...Chot was instrumental in kicking out Rajko Toroman,The excuse was that Rajko was ''Serbian military strict'' in training the Gilas 2.0, Some superstars in the team were constantly complaining about the training and the discipline that was ask for by Rajko. Politics quickly came into play and NGUSO was appointed as coach. Siya rin nagpauso nung too much over OA media savvy approach that we know now as paasa then NGA-NGA.Whoever complained about the training should have been kicked out or maybe it was just Chot who said that to ingratiate himself with the SBP. Toroman and Tab are better than Chot in terms of international coaching. Yeng tried but it is apparent after the Italy game that his coaching won't cut it in the international arena. 1 Quote Link to comment
Journeyman6 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 We always have to choose our poison: Get the best and most skillful players but won't be able to prepare long (bcoz the best players are in the PBA, where sked could be a challenge and somehow business schemes could get in a way) VS. A long tedious preparation will be laid out using cadet players (bcoz the best players can't be kept together at the beck and call of coaching staff) We always have to choose our poison: Get the best and most skillful players but won't be able to prepare long (bcoz the best players are in the PBA, where sked could be a challenge and somehow business schemes could get in a way) VS. A long tedious preparation will be laid out using cadet players (bcoz the best players can't be kept together at the beck and call of coaching staff) The above is were I will put my 2 cents. This is the original Gilas program consisting of college player; Tiu, Casio,Lutz,Lassiter,Slaugther,Barocca,Kuya Marcus Bacarael to name a few,Toroman is the Head coach and thru the auspices of MVP thru Smart. The problem is they made a short cut and tap the PBA players and instead of the long road to success, they opted to go for the shorter route,while there are some success on it we always end up missing something in the end. What could have been the outcome of the original Gilas program if it went full circle is for another discussion. Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 We can't compete or do well sa International stage (Olympics, FIBA World Cup, Asian Games). The only solution is to start by building a team from scratch. Ung mga tipong bata pa lang mga Under 14 talents pa lang simulan ng itrain ng international coach and not PBA coaches. Start from the basics and fundamentals of the game, focus on shooting and ball movement. Hindi ung turuan mamisikal, manira, mambalya. Have a system na suitable on our height, physical kills, and athleticism. Model our brand of game sa mga European countries. We lack athleticism and height to compete kaya magfocus sa shooting and ball movement. Pansinin nyo sa NBA, nagevolve na ung laro, it's more on getting small rather than getting big line up. Small ball na, kaya sana gawin natin un as advantage as we Filipinos lack in height. Next point is, never allow that team to go and play professionally, kung kelangan swelduhan ung mga bata habang lumalaki at nagmamature dapat gawin, kasi kung ittrain natin ung mga bata, pero ang ending maglalaro sa PBA para kumita ng pera wala din mangyayari. Babalik din tayo na ung mga players natin, kukunin pa din sa PBA. Pero malabo to mangyari lalo na kung di nman tlaga pagtutunan ng pansin dito sa bansa natin. Magugulat nlang tayo after ilang years, ung mga neighboring countries natin from Southeast Asia mas gumaling pa satin pagdating sa basketball. I agree with this... we assemble a team habang bata pa... say 14-18 years old simula na sila sa Team Pilipinas...only the best... me sweldo na kasing taas sa PBA.... get a sponsor parang NCC...this will cure yung inggitan na bakit player ng ganitong team pero palaging namemetion eh Smart or MVP Corporation... pag 18 na, isali yung team sa PBA... mag compete para madevelop... tapos mag compete din sa international events... patigasin katawan, hasaain ang shooting, instill ang defensive culture at trust sa isat isa... invest on time kasi and money, obviously, the best that we can offer eh nasa 31st lang sa world stage and will not hurt kung mag train maige... and while we are developing these people, continue muna yung current formula kahit masakit sa mata... baka maka tsamba... now kung maganda ang build-up, regular sila mag compete sa PBA with special consideration na pag me international competition sila, mag mag leave of absence sa PBA... ginawa na dati ito nun... remember NCC... ang kaibahan lang, they will continuously compete sa PBA as a team, sweldong PBA pero hindi magpapadraft sa PBA... Quote Link to comment
junix Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Whoever complained about the training should have been kicked out or maybe it was just Chot who said that to ingratiate himself with the SBP. Toroman and Tab are better than Chot in terms of international coaching. Yeng tried but it is apparent after the Italy game that his coaching won't cut it in the international arena. i'll say it again chief. as of this writing, tab baldwin is the most competent/qualified to coach the national basketball team. let him take over the gilas cadets/batang gilas with 2023 as the main goal. kai soto, thirdy ravena, aj edu, carl tamayo, dave ildefonso, juan gomez de liano, ricci rivero plus maybe talented pba rookies like cj perez, bolick and rayray parks can be included in the pool. the most important thing is getting the right naturalized player. if tab will be picked to coach gilas, i'm sure he knows who to pick. Quote Link to comment
Journeyman6 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Coach Tab's Ateneo team is the prototype international team. He has quick guards, reliable shooters, athletic wingmen, physical forwards, and an agile big man. Ateneo's performance in the Jones Cup and their consistent strong showing against professional teams (both local and international) are testaments to Coach Tab's system. Now, imagine applying his principles to our national team program, giving him 4 years to exclusively mold the players, and we may have a competitive team by 2023. Of course, Coach Tab's program is all for nothing if the PBA cannot get its act together. The FIBA World Cup is every 4 years only and they didn't even adjust their calendar this year to help the training of the Gilas players. Our players are not that tall, not that skilled, that's why I still don't get it why we still pattern our training program after the USA Team. We are dwarves compared to the other teams, so we need to always be better, faster, and tougher and 2 weeks of training will not fix our disadvantages. Coach Tab's Ateneo team is the prototype international team. He has quick guards, reliable shooters, athletic wingmen, physical forwards, and an agile big man. Ateneo's performance in the Jones Cup and their consistent strong showing against professional teams (both local and international) are testaments to Coach Tab's system. Now, imagine applying his principles to our national team program, giving him 4 years to exclusively mold the players, and we may have a competitive team by 2023. Of course, Coach Tab's program is all for nothing if the PBA cannot get its act together. The FIBA World Cup is every 4 years only and they didn't even adjust their calendar this year to help the training of the Gilas players. Our players are not that tall, not that skilled, that's why I still don't get it why we still pattern our training program after the USA Team. We are dwarves compared to the other teams, so we need to always be better, faster, and tougher and 2 weeks of training will not fix our disadvantages. I Agree.The highlighted above says it all. Quote Link to comment
Journeyman6 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 30 na lamang ng Serbia umpisa palang ng 3rdQ Quote Link to comment
torresicecube Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 parang wala sa kondisyon si Blatche, tpos tambak na nga d pa pinapasok si Baroca.... Quote Link to comment
Journeyman6 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Mukhang aabot pa ng 60 ang tambak sa ating koponan parang wala sa kondisyon si Blatche, tpos tambak na nga d pa pinapasok si Baroca.... Okay naman yung Conditioning; tinatamad lang talaga pag di nakakakuha ng bola sa itaas...PG talaga laro nya kahit noon pa! Quote Link to comment
Journeyman6 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) Ayos hinde umabot ng 60 points ang lamang sa atin ng Serbia...59 lang! Lucky for us we have 4 years to try and improve Team Pilipinas. We were gauged but somewhat short and not enough to be at par with the top teams in the world. Back to the drawing table tayo mga paps. Edited September 2, 2019 by Journeyman6 Quote Link to comment
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