Team Pilipinas Basketball

[rafael77]

looks ok. ako lang i would still add alapag. i think he is still the best PG we have that suits local and intl tournaments despite his size (is norwood of capable of point guard position?). and a tall medium range spot up player. the likes of tony dela cruz of alaska.

 

A team composed of 66.7% from the PBA does not work as shown by the previous teams that were formed half cooked and last minute without any real cohesion. Besides, their mother teams interest always comes first with the multi-million investment they've made to these players and the risk of injuries that it may result. I'd say continue a program of having players mostly/majority from the amateurs with longer contract this time around and at least 2 naturalized players while continuing to scout for Fil-am players elsewhere. My bet of players are :

 

1st Five:

C - MarcusDouthit 6'11"

PF/SF - Japeth Aguilar[/colo 6'9"

SF/PF - Aldrech Ramos 6'6"

SG - Bobby Ray Parks 6'3"

PG - Paul Lee 6'1" (kaso tumaggi nato noon)

 

2nd Five:

C - Greg Slaughter 7'0"

PF - Jun Fajardo 6'9" (player todevelop)

SF - Arwind Santos 6'6"

SG - Cris Tiu 5'11"

PG - Kiefer Ravena 5'11"

 

Other player options :

SF/G – Chris Lutz 6'4"

SF - Marcio Lassiter 6'4"

SF – Mike Silungan 6'3"

SF/G – Alex Nuyles 6'2"

SG – Calvin Abueva 6'2"

SF/G – Jeric Teng 6'2"

SG– Kevin Ferrer 6'2"

PG –Lester Alvarez 5'9"

PG– RR Garcia 5'10"

PG– Jeric Fortuna 5'7"

PF/C – Arnold Van Opstal 6'9" (player to develop)

PF– Norbert Torres 6'7" (player to develop)

PF/C – Another naturalized player or fil-am playerpref 7'0"

 

*red font are current PBA players

[JediMasterTebs]

looks ok. ako lang i would still add alapag. i think he is still the best PG we have that suits local and intl tournaments despite his size (is norwood of capable of point guard position?). and a tall medium range spot up player. the likes of tony dela cruz of alaska.

 

yes sir Gabe is capable he played both as an SG and PG during his GMU days nung naglalaro pa sya sa GMU

[kenichi15]

sequence doesn't mean anything. changes and rigodons happened all throughout. in fact even at the last minute. chot reyes was never really critical of toroman. they have the same boss. si yeng 'foul-mouthed' guiao lang.

 

it was a 3-year program that ended 2 weeks before the olympic qualifier (the main goal). thats why in 2 weeks time they had to scramble for the final line-up.

 

 

now u agree that it was a three year program? but on ur earlier post u said toroman never had a program. youre contradicting yourself.

 

ang trending ng topic kung may program ba si toroman o wala. eh ano ba talaga tingin mo mayroon bang program o wala? yes or no na lang para di ka malito sa sinasabi mo. di ka pa mahihirapan mag explain.

Edited October 15, 2011 by kenichi15

[rafael77]

smart gilas is not toroman's program. it's sbp's. there will be smart gilas even without toroman. toroman's program should be the team's system and brand of play. and there's none. ergo...

 

now u agree that it was a three year program? but on ur earlier post u said toroman never had a program. youre contradicting yourself.

 

ang trending ng topic kung may program ba si toroman o wala. eh ano ba talaga tingin mo mayroon bang program o wala? yes or no na lang para di ka malito sa sinasabi mo. di ka pa mahihirapan mag explain.

[kenichi15]

smart gilas is not toroman's program. it's sbp's. there will be smart gilas even without toroman. toroman's program should be the team's system and brand of play. and there's none. ergo...

 

haays nag explain pa. yes or no lang.

pero siya tutal sabi mo walang program si toroman.

okay na yun.

opinion mo yun.

 

baluktot nga lang.

[photographer]

Dont know where to post this........just sharing.........

 

 

China, India to field 7-footers

By JONAS TERRADOOctober 18, 2011, 2:30am

 

NHA TRANG, Vietnam — Members of the Energen Pilipinas U-16 team get the chance to see and gauge their rivals Tuesday as the FIBA Asia U-16 Championship kicks off at the Khanh Hoa Sports Center here.

 

The Nationals will not be a part of a seven-game schedule that will kick off the 11-day, 15-nation cagefest but the last match of the day promises to be a highly-anticipated one as China battles India – which boast of seven-foot players.

 

China, the reigning champion, will field in 7-foot-2 beanpole Zhou Qi against India's 7-foot-2 Satnam Singh Bhamara in the last game at 9 p.m. (10 p.m. Manila time).

 

Zhou is trumpeted as the next Yao Ming after toying Germany with 41 points, 28 rebounds and 15 blocks in a tournament held earlier this year in Turkey.

 

Based on some YouTube clips, the 16-year old Zhou has been a terror on the defensive stop even blocking outside shots of the opponents while displaying solid shooting touch from the perimeter and low post moves.

 

On the other hand, Satnam is only 15 years old but he actually played for India in the recent FIBA Asia Championship in Wuhan, China where it finished 14th out of 16 teams. He had 28 points against Sri Lanka for the U-16 team in a qualifier for this youth tourney.

 

Satnam, who dreams of playing in the NBA someday, even attended a camp in the United States where he showed some scouts his promising ability.

 

PH coach Olsen Racela was personally awed at the Chinese team during a chance encounter at the Olympic Hotel where both squads are billeted but they will have a chance to scout them along with the other teams.

 

"It's hard to scout the other U-16 teams because they rarely join tournaments kaya di pa namin talaga alam," said Racela. "But because of the schedule, maganda para sa amin because we will be able to scout the opponents."

 

The Nationals are bracketed in Group D alongside neighbors Indonesia and host Vietnam, a first timer in this event. No one will be eliminated from this group but winning now will play a big factor in their bid to enter the next round.

 

After the preliminary round, they will join the top three squads of Group C in the second round with their win-loss records to be carried over. The other pairing is comprised of Iran, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Japan.

 

China heads Group A alongside India, Malaysia and Chinese Taipei while Group B is composed of South Korea, Lebanon, Uzbekistan and Iraq, which are reportedly tapping two cagers standing 6-foot-5.

 

The Filipinos, who practiced Sunday night at an outdoor court and late yesterday afternoon, debut tomorrow against Indonesia, a team they beat by 63 points in the SEABA U-16 tourney held last August in Banting City, Malaysia.

 

 

[Droidz1979]

Dont know where to post this........just sharing.........

 

 

China, India to field 7-footers

By JONAS TERRADOOctober 18, 2011, 2:30am

 

NHA TRANG, Vietnam — Members of the Energen Pilipinas U-16 team get the chance to see and gauge their rivals Tuesday as the FIBA Asia U-16 Championship kicks off at the Khanh Hoa Sports Center here.

 

The Nationals will not be a part of a seven-game schedule that will kick off the 11-day, 15-nation cagefest but the last match of the day promises to be a highly-anticipated one as China battles India – which boast of seven-foot players.

 

China, the reigning champion, will field in 7-foot-2 beanpole Zhou Qi against India's 7-foot-2 Satnam Singh Bhamara in the last game at 9 p.m. (10 p.m. Manila time).

 

Zhou is trumpeted as the next Yao Ming after toying Germany with 41 points, 28 rebounds and 15 blocks in a tournament held earlier this year in Turkey.

 

Based on some YouTube clips, the 16-year old Zhou has been a terror on the defensive stop even blocking outside shots of the opponents while displaying solid shooting touch from the perimeter and low post moves.

 

On the other hand, Satnam is only 15 years old but he actually played for India in the recent FIBA Asia Championship in Wuhan, China where it finished 14th out of 16 teams. He had 28 points against Sri Lanka for the U-16 team in a qualifier for this youth tourney.

 

Satnam, who dreams of playing in the NBA someday, even attended a camp in the United States where he showed some scouts his promising ability.

 

PH coach Olsen Racela was personally awed at the Chinese team during a chance encounter at the Olympic Hotel where both squads are billeted but they will have a chance to scout them along with the other teams.

 

"It's hard to scout the other U-16 teams because they rarely join tournaments kaya di pa namin talaga alam," said Racela. "But because of the schedule, maganda para sa amin because we will be able to scout the opponents."

 

The Nationals are bracketed in Group D alongside neighbors Indonesia and host Vietnam, a first timer in this event. No one will be eliminated from this group but winning now will play a big factor in their bid to enter the next round.

 

After the preliminary round, they will join the top three squads of Group C in the second round with their win-loss records to be carried over. The other pairing is comprised of Iran, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Japan.

 

China heads Group A alongside India, Malaysia and Chinese Taipei while Group B is composed of South Korea, Lebanon, Uzbekistan and Iraq, which are reportedly tapping two cagers standing 6-foot-5.

 

The Filipinos, who practiced Sunday night at an outdoor court and late yesterday afternoon, debut tomorrow against Indonesia, a team they beat by 63 points in the SEABA U-16 tourney held last August in Banting City, Malaysia.

 

 

 

 

Nabasa ko din to kanina.

 

Sa U-16 team pa lang natin mukhang malabo na in terms of height and they are also bogged with the same problem as Gilas namely not all the best players are available to play for flag and country. Our top scorer and rebounder (din ata) when we placed 4th on the last tournament ay di din nirelease ng mother team nya (deja vu?) dahil may conflict sa schedule at on-going pa game sa juniors by then or something to that effect. May 6'1" na Fil-Australian sa team na eto kaso last minute na naman pumasok so may problem din to sa team chemistry other than the apparent lack of height as compared to the 7 foot players of China or India. Tsk tsk same old story and this time i guess we can't blame the coach for the absence of any program dahil local na yan and apparently this falls under SBP na dapat. Di na talaga oobra band-aid solution para dito and there is a need for a comprehensive and sustainable program for us to be a powerhouse in basketball sa Asia ulit.

[RED2018]

Excerpts from The DEan's article today at Philstrar:

 

Reader Brian Gan recently sent in an e-mail saying in his life, he has written formally only four times – to the United Nations (unspecified topic), then-President Estrada (also unspecified topic), this column (commenting on the Centennial team led by coach Tim Cone in 1998) and once more, this column. Gan described himself as a 38-year-old businessman. Here are excerpts from his latest letter:

 

“It was my father’s birthday last Sept. 27 and as a family tradition, he always would make a wish. Year in and year out, his wish will always be to have better health. This year, he decided to think of country. A first from a man who stopped watching Philippine basketball since China crushed the Robert Jaworski team, 130-65, (at the Asian Games in 1990). My dad, who actually went to Beijing with his friends, felt embarrassed by the loss. They believed the Japanese head coach who boldly predicted the Philippines would win it all.

 

“So after 21 years, my father watched his first Philppine team game versus the NBA All-Stars and was very impressed with the system used by coach Rajko Toroman. Please bear in mind, MVP took a team of discards, not of superstars but players who wanted to play for country. He got a 6-10 guy who never made it to the NBA, used Taulava and three Talk ‘N’ Text players who practiced for the shortest possible time and gave us a chance to take third place (in FIBA-Asia). Do we need Rajko? We do. He is the second coming of Ron Jacobs who coached a team built around Mike Mustre and Art de la Cruz and made them finish third in the PBA. We need the PBA to lend players, train them for how long Toroman wants. Stop our crab mentality and make proper suggestions on how to be better. This is for our country.

 

“Jordan is the second best team in Asia. Toroman showed us we can beat this team. He actually did it in four instances. Japan is our long-time rival and Toroman is unbeaten against Japan. Did we actually think we can beat Iran? I didn’t until Toroman showed his boys and our country that we can. We beat them in the Jones Cup. Against China, we lost by 15 with a 10-man team on China’s home floor. Korea can easily defeat us by 15. Toroman and Smart Gilas led 85 percent of the way but it was not meant to be. Maybe it was good we didn’t win so we can come together as a nation and realize we just need a little more push and cooperation.

 

“Toroman is like Freddie Roach. Manny Pacquiao is a great boxer, he listens to his coach. Lassiter, Lutz, Casio, Tiu, Marcus, Japeth, Mac and the rest all know the value of Toroman. This guy is more Filipino than many of us, he wants his players to sing the national anthem. The PBA’s recent proposal to lend 16 players is flawed because the players can only play in one tournament, meaning FIBA-Asia. But we need to train them to play in other tournaments. Toroman wants to have three months to train his team. Look at Japeth, Lutz and Baracael, all fresh from Gilas, all leading their team in the PBA, an indication of how good Toroman is. I hope Toroman comes back. We need him.”

[Droidz1979]

Excerpts from The DEan's article today at Philstrar:

 

Reader Brian Gan recently sent in an e-mail saying in his life, he has written formally only four times – to the United Nations (unspecified topic), then-President Estrada (also unspecified topic), this column (commenting on the Centennial team led by coach Tim Cone in 1998) and once more, this column. Gan described himself as a 38-year-old businessman. Here are excerpts from his latest letter:

 

"It was my father's birthday last Sept. 27 and as a family tradition, he always would make a wish. Year in and year out, his wish will always be to have better health. This year, he decided to think of country. A first from a man who stopped watching Philippine basketball since China crushed the Robert Jaworski team, 130-65, (at the Asian Games in 1990). My dad, who actually went to Beijing with his friends, felt embarrassed by the loss. They believed the Japanese head coach who boldly predicted the Philippines would win it all.

 

"So after 21 years, my father watched his first Philppine team game versus the NBA All-Stars and was very impressed with the system used by coach Rajko Toroman. Please bear in mind, MVP took a team of discards, not of superstars but players who wanted to play for country. He got a 6-10 guy who never made it to the NBA, used Taulava and three Talk 'N' Text players who practiced for the shortest possible time and gave us a chance to take third place (in FIBA-Asia). Do we need Rajko? We do. He is the second coming of Ron Jacobs who coached a team built around Mike Mustre and Art de la Cruz and made them finish third in the PBA. We need the PBA to lend players, train them for how long Toroman wants. Stop our crab mentality and make proper suggestions on how to be better. This is for our country.

 

"Jordan is the second best team in Asia. Toroman showed us we can beat this team. He actually did it in four instances. Japan is our long-time rival and Toroman is unbeaten against Japan. Did we actually think we can beat Iran? I didn't until Toroman showed his boys and our country that we can. We beat them in the Jones Cup. Against China, we lost by 15 with a 10-man team on China's home floor. Korea can easily defeat us by 15. Toroman and Smart Gilas led 85 percent of the way but it was not meant to be. Maybe it was good we didn't win so we can come together as a nation and realize we just need a little more push and cooperation.

 

"Toroman is like Freddie Roach. Manny Pacquiao is a great boxer, he listens to his coach. Lassiter, Lutz, Casio, Tiu, Marcus, Japeth, Mac and the rest all know the value of Toroman. This guy is more Filipino than many of us, he wants his players to sing the national anthem. The PBA's recent proposal to lend 16 players is flawed because the players can only play in one tournament, meaning FIBA-Asia. But we need to train them to play in other tournaments. Toroman wants to have three months to train his team. Look at Japeth, Lutz and Baracael, all fresh from Gilas, all leading their team in the PBA, an indication of how good Toroman is. I hope Toroman comes back. We need him."

 

I coudn't agree more.. amen to that

[rafael77]

i watched norwood in their game kanina and yes you're right he can play pg. baka this is one of the answers to manny pangilinan's search for tall guards.

 

yes sir Gabe is capable he played both as an SG and PG during his GMU days nung naglalaro pa sya sa GMU

[darthblitzkrieg]

ang SEAG this year ang magiging barometer kung sino ang makakasali sa gilas 2 for sure

[TERRENCE34]

Excerpts from The DEan's article today at Philstrar:

 

Reader Brian Gan recently sent in an e-mail saying in his life, he has written formally only four times – to the United Nations (unspecified topic), then-President Estrada (also unspecified topic), this column (commenting on the Centennial team led by coach Tim Cone in 1998) and once more, this column. Gan described himself as a 38-year-old businessman. Here are excerpts from his latest letter:

 

"It was my father's birthday last Sept. 27 and as a family tradition, he always would make a wish. Year in and year out, his wish will always be to have better health. This year, he decided to think of country. A first from a man who stopped watching Philippine basketball since China crushed the Robert Jaworski team, 130-65, (at the Asian Games in 1990). My dad, who actually went to Beijing with his friends, felt embarrassed by the loss. They believed the Japanese head coach who boldly predicted the Philippines would win it all.

 

"So after 21 years, my father watched his first Philppine team game versus the NBA All-Stars and was very impressed with the system used by coach Rajko Toroman. Please bear in mind, MVP took a team of discards, not of superstars but players who wanted to play for country. He got a 6-10 guy who never made it to the NBA, used Taulava and three Talk 'N' Text players who practiced for the shortest possible time and gave us a chance to take third place (in FIBA-Asia). Do we need Rajko? We do. He is the second coming of Ron Jacobs who coached a team built around Mike Mustre and Art de la Cruz and made them finish third in the PBA. We need the PBA to lend players, train them for how long Toroman wants. Stop our crab mentality and make proper suggestions on how to be better. This is for our country.

 

"Jordan is the second best team in Asia. Toroman showed us we can beat this team. He actually did it in four instances. Japan is our long-time rival and Toroman is unbeaten against Japan. Did we actually think we can beat Iran? I didn't until Toroman showed his boys and our country that we can. We beat them in the Jones Cup. Against China, we lost by 15 with a 10-man team on China's home floor. Korea can easily defeat us by 15. Toroman and Smart Gilas led 85 percent of the way but it was not meant to be. Maybe it was good we didn't win so we can come together as a nation and realize we just need a little more push and cooperation.

 

"Toroman is like Freddie Roach. Manny Pacquiao is a great boxer, he listens to his coach. Lassiter, Lutz, Casio, Tiu, Marcus, Japeth, Mac and the rest all know the value of Toroman. This guy is more Filipino than many of us, he wants his players to sing the national anthem. The PBA's recent proposal to lend 16 players is flawed because the players can only play in one tournament, meaning FIBA-Asia. But we need to train them to play in other tournaments. Toroman wants to have three months to train his team. Look at Japeth, Lutz and Baracael, all fresh from Gilas, all leading their team in the PBA, an indication of how good Toroman is. I hope Toroman comes back. We need him."

 

Well said. +100

[JediMasterTebs]

i watched norwood in their game kanina and yes you're right he can play pg. baka this is one of the answers to manny pangilinan's search for tall guards.

 

yes ngayon may guys like Paul Lee, Jeff Chan, Ronjay Buenafe ang RoS I think Gabe will have a field day playing for the national team now that he plays a lot more better since he last donned the national colors imagine passing the ball to the likes of Parks, Ravena, and other collegiate stars and PBA Superstars!

[junix]

Excerpts from The DEan's article today at Philstrar:

 

Reader Brian Gan recently sent in an e-mail saying in his life, he has written formally only four times – to the United Nations (unspecified topic), then-President Estrada (also unspecified topic), this column (commenting on the Centennial team led by coach Tim Cone in 1998) and once more, this column. Gan described himself as a 38-year-old businessman. Here are excerpts from his latest letter:

 

“It was my father’s birthday last Sept. 27 and as a family tradition, he always would make a wish. Year in and year out, his wish will always be to have better health. This year, he decided to think of country. A first from a man who stopped watching Philippine basketball since China crushed the Robert Jaworski team, 130-65, (at the Asian Games in 1990). My dad, who actually went to Beijing with his friends, felt embarrassed by the loss. They believed the Japanese head coach who boldly predicted the Philippines would win it all.

 

“So after 21 years, my father watched his first Philppine team game versus the NBA All-Stars and was very impressed with the system used by coach Rajko Toroman. Please bear in mind, MVP took a team of discards, not of superstars but players who wanted to play for country. He got a 6-10 guy who never made it to the NBA, used Taulava and three Talk ‘N’ Text players who practiced for the shortest possible time and gave us a chance to take third place (in FIBA-Asia). Do we need Rajko? We do. He is the second coming of Ron Jacobs who coached a team built around Mike Mustre and Art de la Cruz and made them finish third in the PBA. We need the PBA to lend players, train them for how long Toroman wants. Stop our crab mentality and make proper suggestions on how to be better. This is for our country.

 

“Jordan is the second best team in Asia. Toroman showed us we can beat this team. He actually did it in four instances. Japan is our long-time rival and Toroman is unbeaten against Japan. Did we actually think we can beat Iran? I didn’t until Toroman showed his boys and our country that we can. We beat them in the Jones Cup. Against China, we lost by 15 with a 10-man team on China’s home floor. Korea can easily defeat us by 15. Toroman and Smart Gilas led 85 percent of the way but it was not meant to be. Maybe it was good we didn’t win so we can come together as a nation and realize we just need a little more push and cooperation.

 

“Toroman is like Freddie Roach. Manny Pacquiao is a great boxer, he listens to his coach. Lassiter, Lutz, Casio, Tiu, Marcus, Japeth, Mac and the rest all know the value of Toroman. This guy is more Filipino than many of us, he wants his players to sing the national anthem. The PBA’s recent proposal to lend 16 players is flawed because the players can only play in one tournament, meaning FIBA-Asia. But we need to train them to play in other tournaments. Toroman wants to have three months to train his team. Look at Japeth, Lutz and Baracael, all fresh from Gilas, all leading their team in the PBA, an indication of how good Toroman is. I hope Toroman comes back. We need him.”

 

i'll have to agree with this too. very well written.

[BrightestStar]

We need to reactivate Slaughter and Ramos to add the height advantage.