Annulment 101

[cocoy0]

@dark_devil: Iba po ang divorce sa annulment. You can backread dito kung ano ang grounds, pero basically ang implication ng annulment e simula pa lang o habang kinakasal kayo e hindi na pwede. Whereas sa divorce na wala sa Pilipinas e yung dahilan ng paghihiwalay niyo e after niyo makasal. Pwede mo busisiin yung marriage certificate niyo para makita kung may basis ang annulment.

[rocco69]

1. anong ground ang pwede kong isampa?

 

mas malamang sa hindi, declaration of nullity of marriage dahil sa psychological incapacity ng isa sa inyo (pero, check mo rin yung marriage papers nyo, baka sa fixer lang kayo nagpakasal, walang lisensya, wala kayo sa tamang edad o di-kaya'y walang consent ng magulang)

 

2. Magkano po damage ng annulment (ako po kasi ang gagastos sa lahat)?

 

depende sa abugado na makukuha mo (tsaka baka hindi annulment kundi "declaration of nullity" ang isasampang kaso, depende na sa depekto na makikita ng abugado). pero mas malamang sa hindi, hindi yan bababa ng P100T (yang amount nga na yan ay super super super mura)

 

3. Pwede po bang non-appearance kasi nasa aboard pa rin yung ex wife ko?

 

ang importante, nandito sa Pilipinas at magpapakita sa korte ang nagsasampa ng kaso. kung di magpakita yung nirereklamo, tuloy pa rin ang kaso.

 

 

4. 6 years na kaming hiwalay. sabi kasi sakin ng kaibigan ko pwede daw po ulit ikasal yung mga naghiwalay ng 7yrs o matagal pa?

 

yan ay isang maling-mali na paniniwala. kahit ilang taon pa kayong hiwalay, kahit 50 years or more pa, kasal pa rin kayo sa isa't-isa, at dahil diyan, hindi ka pwedeng magpakasal sa iba, baka makasuhan ka pa ng bigamy. hangga't alam mo na buhay ang magaling mong asawa, hindi ka pwedeng magpakasal sa iba.

 

ibang usapan yung naglaho ang asawa mo, di mo alam kung siya ay buhay pa o patay na, at may katuwiran kang maniwala na siya ay patay na [sa kaso mo naman, hindi naglaho ang asawa mo, naghiwalay lang kayo]. kapag ganung sitwasyon, pwede ka nang pumunta sa hukuman para ipadeklarang "absent" ang asawa mo. kapag pumayag ang korte, pwede ka nang magpakasal uli [NOTE: kailangan mo pa ring magsampa ng kaso sa hukuman, hindi yung basta-basta ka lang magpapakasal, see Article 41, Family Code]

 

 

IN ENDING, kumunsulta sa abugado tungkol sa kaso mo. marami namang abugado na maaari mong makausap ng di ka pa gagastos (baka pakain lang he he he). bring all your relevant documents.

Help naman mga idol. last 2005 kaming kinasal. last 2006 naghiwalay kami kasi nagkaroon yung wife ko ng 3rd party nung nasa aboard sya. nagkita kami ulit nung nov. 2010 para gumawa ng block and white letter (kasunduan) na nag papatunay na hiwalay na kami at wala ng pakialaman sa isa't isa. with witness ang mother ko at mother niya s isang law firm sa bulacan. Ngayon ay may ka live-in ako at may anak na isa. Gusto ko sama mag file ng annument:

question 1. anong ground ang pwede kong isampa?

2. Magkano po damage ng annulment (ako po kasi ang gagastos sa lahat)?

3. Pwede po bang non-appearance kasi nasa aboard pa rin yung ex wife ko?

4. 6 years na kaming hiwalay. sabi kasi sakin ng kaibigan ko pwede daw po ulit ikasal yung mga

naghiwalay ng 7yrs o matagal pa?

 

Maraming salamat.

Edited November 10, 2012 by rocco69

[dark_devil]

Maraming salamat sa pagsagot ng katanungan ko.

 

1. anong ground ang pwede kong isampa?

 

mas malamang sa hindi, declaration of nullity of marriage dahil sa psychological incapacity ng isa sa inyo (pero, check mo rin yung marriage papers nyo, baka sa fixer lang kayo nagpakasal, walang lisensya, wala kayo sa tamang edad o di-kaya'y walang consent ng magulang)

 

2. Magkano po damage ng annulment (ako po kasi ang gagastos sa lahat)?

 

depende sa abugado na makukuha mo (tsaka baka hindi annulment kundi "declaration of nullity" ang isasampang kaso, depende na sa depekto na makikita ng abugado). pero mas malamang sa hindi, hindi yan bababa ng P100T (yang amount nga na yan ay super super super mura)

 

3. Pwede po bang non-appearance kasi nasa aboard pa rin yung ex wife ko?

 

ang importante, nandito sa Pilipinas at magpapakita sa korte ang nagsasampa ng kaso. kung di magpakita yung nirereklamo, tuloy pa rin ang kaso.

 

 

4. 6 years na kaming hiwalay. sabi kasi sakin ng kaibigan ko pwede daw po ulit ikasal yung mga naghiwalay ng 7yrs o matagal pa?

 

yan ay isang maling-mali na paniniwala. kahit ilang taon pa kayong hiwalay, kahit 50 years or more pa, kasal pa rin kayo sa isa't-isa, at dahil diyan, hindi ka pwedeng magpakasal sa iba, baka makasuhan ka pa ng bigamy. hangga't alam mo na buhay ang magaling mong asawa, hindi ka pwedeng magpakasal sa iba.

 

ibang usapan yung naglaho ang asawa mo, di mo alam kung siya ay buhay pa o patay na, at may katuwiran kang maniwala na siya ay patay na [sa kaso mo naman, hindi naglaho ang asawa mo, naghiwalay lang kayo]. kapag ganung sitwasyon, pwede ka nang pumunta sa hukuman para ipadeklarang "absent" ang asawa mo. kapag pumayag ang korte, pwede ka nang magpakasal uli [NOTE: kailangan mo pa ring magsampa ng kaso sa hukuman, hindi yung basta-basta ka lang magpapakasal, see Article 41, Family Code]

 

 

IN ENDING, kumunsulta sa abugado tungkol sa kaso mo. marami namang abugado na maaari mong makausap ng di ka pa gagastos (baka pakain lang he he he). bring all your relevant documents.

[jazon7099]

Tama pwede nyo ako imessage para sumangguni, sa akin e pakape lang. baka malamang, ako pa manlilibre sa inyo ng kape. hehehe. Talks about ambulance chasing? hehehe

[morato]

My mom and dad wants an annulment.. How can i discourage them? though they're already separated.

[bonito99]

it's between them.

[chastiseman]

ambulance chasing bro? sana di naman hehe parang hairline lang and difference e... just trying to give legal opinions kung kaya...

[69cyclemind]

me alam ba kayo na nag ooffer ng secret marriage?contacts pls

 

secret marriage? ganito gagawin mo:

 

1. hanap ka ng secret na pari or judge, yung sya lang nakakaalam na pari or judge sya;

 

2. hanap ka ng witnesses na secret din, yung di nila kilala mga sarili nila (madami sa mandaluyong nito).

 

3. tapos hanap ka friends nyo, yung di nila alam na friends kayo (kaya nga secret eh).

 

4. tapos kung gusto nyo may ninong and ninang kayo, hanap kayo ng secret (or kung ayaw nyo, pag nagtanong pari or judge kung asan ninong/ninang, sagot mo secret syempre.

 

5. items 3 and 4 can be dispensed with.

 

required yung pari or judge to submit you marriage certificate to the civil registrar and eventually NSO, kaya request that the document be marked as confidential or SECRET.

 

Pang nag apply ka ng license, sabihin mo agad na secret, para di ka na bigyan ng license. kung ayaw pumayag ng judge or pari na walang license, patatakan mo din ng secret yung papel.

 

ayan, hope this helps. sigurado secret marriage na yan.

 

kung may alam ako nag oofer ng secret marriage? syempre meron! pero secret nga kaya bawal sabihin.

[Guest Jiraiya792]

Help naman mga idol. last 2005 kaming kinasal. last 2006 naghiwalay kami kasi nagkaroon yung wife ko ng 3rd party nung nasa aboard sya. nagkita kami ulit nung nov. 2010 para gumawa ng block and white letter (kasunduan) na nag papatunay na hiwalay na kami at wala ng pakialaman sa isa't isa. with witness ang mother ko at mother niya s isang law firm sa bulacan. Ngayon ay may ka live-in ako at may anak na isa. Gusto ko sama mag file ng annument:

question 1. anong ground ang pwede kong isampa?

2. Magkano po damage ng annulment (ako po kasi ang gagastos sa lahat)?

3. Pwede po bang non-appearance kasi nasa aboard pa rin yung ex wife ko?

4. 6 years na kaming hiwalay. sabi kasi sakin ng kaibigan ko pwede daw po ulit ikasal yung mga

naghiwalay ng 7yrs o matagal pa?

 

Maraming salamat.

 

bro,

 

i think pu-pwedeng ground e psychological incapacity under Article 36 of the Family Code.

btw, it's a declaration of nullity case, not annulment. (you can google the grounds for annulment under Article 45 of the Family Code; grounds for legal separation naman ay nasa Article 55).

 

iba iba ang gastos pero common knowledge ay mahal magpa "annul." kc you have to pay expert witnesses like a psychologist for instance.

 

re steps and procedure, you can google it. "A.M. No. 02-11-10-SC, March 4, 2003. Rule on Declaration of Absolute Nullity of Void Marriages and Annulment of Voidable Marriages."

 

regarding your last question, ndi pwede yan bro kahit ilang years pa nawala asawa mo. nag aapply lang yan kung presumed dead yung spouse mo. (see Article 41 of the Family Code). tsaka in those cases, kelangan mo pa magsecure ng declaration of presumptive death from the court bago ka makapgpakasal ulit.

 

delikado yan kc criminal offense yan, bigamy. ang bigamy pa naman ay isang public offense na pwedeng i-initiate kahit cno.

unlike adultery and concubinage na offended spouse lang ang pwede magreklamo.

 

court lang ang pwede magdeclare na walang bisa ang marriage, or mag annul nito. unless walang declaration from a court. kasal p din kayo.

[BallBreaker]

Hello,

I have been annulled for quite some time now, and has since remarried. I don't have any communication with my ex-husband for about 4 years now as well. My problem is how to go about with my son's well-being. Ever since I got annulled 6 years ago, my son hasn't been getting any child support for my ex-husband which is fine by me. This is even if we already had an agreement after the annulment was granted. Since ex-husband works abroad, he also hasn't had any communication with him (though they're friends on FB). Everything about my son's expenses is now being shouldered by me and my new husband and we'd rather keep it that way instead of hounding him for child support. My new husband loves my son dearly and treats him like his own. My son also treats him like his true dad. Now, we're thinking it would be best if my new husband could legally adopt my son. One is because he wants to legalize his being a dad to him, also to ensure that our conjugal properties will be his in the future, and because we all want our surname to be the same. I had a serious talk with my son and he also would want to be adopted legally by the man he now claims to be his father. What can we do in order to legalize the adoption? Do we have to contact my ex-husband for his consent? Since he probably wouldn't consent to the adoption, can we file an abandonment case against him to waive his legal rights? What other options do we have to change my son's surname? Do you have any recommendations to a good family lawyer who would take such case (my husband wouldn't want their family lawyer to be involved in this case for personal reasons)? Also, how much would it cost us for the adoption? If ever, would you be able to take on a case such as this?

TIA!

[Pinoymale]

Hi,

 

If your ex-husband will not agree to the adoption, it will be very difficult to have the adoption granted. The courts are reluctant to deprive a parent of his authority over his child. If you make it appear that your ex-husband has abandoned your child, he can oppose this and prove that he has maintained contact with your child via FB. As to lack of child support, he can simply prove that it was your mutual agreement that you did not require him to provide financial support for your child even though this is required by law.

 

At any rate, your new husband may still file a petition to adopt your child by proving that it would be in your child's best interest to be adopted by your new husband. It would be best to consult a lawyer where you live since that's where you have to file the petition.

 

Hello,

I have been annulled for quite some time now, and has since remarried. I don't have any communication with my ex-husband for about 4 years now as well. My problem is how to go about with my son's well-being. Ever since I got annulled 6 years ago, my son hasn't been getting any child support for my ex-husband which is fine by me. This is even if we already had an agreement after the annulment was granted. Since ex-husband works abroad, he also hasn't had any communication with him (though they're friends on FB). Everything about my son's expenses is now being shouldered by me and my new husband and we'd rather keep it that way instead of hounding him for child support. My new husband loves my son dearly and treats him like his own. My son also treats him like his true dad. Now, we're thinking it would be best if my new husband could legally adopt my son. One is because he wants to legalize his being a dad to him, also to ensure that our conjugal properties will be his in the future, and because we all want our surname to be the same. I had a serious talk with my son and he also would want to be adopted legally by the man he now claims to be his father. What can we do in order to legalize the adoption? Do we have to contact my ex-husband for his consent? Since he probably wouldn't consent to the adoption, can we file an abandonment case against him to waive his legal rights? What other options do we have to change my son's surname? Do you have any recommendations to a good family lawyer who would take such case (my husband wouldn't want their family lawyer to be involved in this case for personal reasons)? Also, how much would it cost us for the adoption? If ever, would you be able to take on a case such as this?

TIA!

[tequilagold]

Hi,

 

I have been annulled for 7 years now and presently living abroad. My problem is that my ex-wife is denying me of visitation to my son. She has been insisting that I have abandoned them when I have been in constant communication with them and sending child support. Communication stopped last year when she apparently got serious with her boyfriend. She wouldn't let me talk to our son nor visit him. She is insisting that I have no visitation rights which just shows her ignorance of the law. Furthermore, the Judge who ruled on the annulment and custody is her close relative. She has also been brain-washing my son that I am a bad father and that I have abandoned them. Mediations have been attempted but she wouldn't show up. What are my options when I am living abroad and my ex-partner is not cooperative on sharing parental authority and allowing visitation. Could you recommend a lawyer who has experience on this case? I want everything settled for the welfare of my son. I don't want him to be sorry later for not really knowing how much his father loves him.

 

 

Tequilagold

[bonito99]

if you are abroad, how will you visit your son?

 

when you fly back home, that's the time you file a civil case against your ex-wife.

 

ex-wife is a relative of the judge who handled your case? hmmmm

[tequilagold]

if you are abroad, how will you visit your son?

 

when you fly back home, that's the time you file a civil case against your ex-wife.

 

ex-wife is a relative of the judge who handled your case? hmmmm

 

Does that mean that I can only be with my son when I go to the Philippines? Would it be possible for him to visit me abroad? So, what civil case should I file against my ex-wife? Can I also file a case against the judge? Do you know any lawyer who's familiar with visitation agreement concerning a long distance dad?

 

Tequilagold

[countermeasure]

^This interests me. Will follow tequilagold's progress as my wife is apparently equally-ignorant.