Annulment 101

[rocco69]

Ang repeated physical violence directed against a common child ay ground lamang para sa legal separation (kasal pa rin kayo sa isa't-isa, pero pwede kayong maghiwalay ng landas, wala na kayong pakialaman sa ari-arian ng bawat isa sa inyo. dahil kasal pa rin kayo, di ka pwede makisama sa iba).

 

Ngunit, subalit, datapwat... dahil hindi naman katanggap-tanggap ang legal separation sa karamihan na may problema sa kani-kanilang kasal, pwede mong palabasin na yang pananakit ng asawa mo sa inyong anak ay sintomas o tanda na siya ay psychologically incapacitated to comply with the essential marital obligations of marriage.

 

Alalahanin mo na ang pagmamahal at pag-aaruga sa anak ay isa sa mga essential marital obligation. Kung hindi ito nagagampanan ng asawa mo, at ito ay maitatali/maiuugnay mo sa isang psychological incapacity sa bahagi ng iyong asawa, pwede mong ipawalang-bisa ang kasal mo.

 

Ang abugado mo ang bahalang dumiskarte para dito, siya na ang kukuha ng eksperto na magsasagawa ng pag-aaral sa inyong mag-asawa upang matiyak kung meron ngang psychological incapacity sa bahagi ng iyong asawa.

 

Dumulog na sa abugado. Good luck sa iyo!

 

Yung wife ko sinasaktan ang anak ko up to a point na kailagan ng anak ko ng minor surgery. Pwede po bang basehan ang child abuse then annulment. 7 years na po kaming di mag kasama.

[Seaman69]

Ang repeated physical violence directed against a common child ay ground lamang para sa legal separation (kasal pa rin kayo sa isa't-isa, pero pwede kayong maghiwalay ng landas, wala na kayong pakialaman sa ari-arian ng bawat isa sa inyo. dahil kasal pa rin kayo, di ka pwede makisama sa iba).

 

Ngunit, subalit, datapwat... dahil hindi naman katanggap-tanggap ang legal separation sa karamihan na may problema sa kani-kanilang kasal, pwede mong palabasin na yang pananakit ng asawa mo sa inyong anak ay sintomas o tanda na siya ay psychologically incapacitated to comply with the essential marital obligations of marriage.

 

Alalahanin mo na ang pagmamahal at pag-aaruga sa anak ay isa sa mga essential marital obligation. Kung hindi ito nagagampanan ng asawa mo, at ito ay maitatali/maiuugnay mo sa isang psychological incapacity sa bahagi ng iyong asawa, pwede mong ipawalang-bisa ang kasal mo.

 

Ang abugado mo ang bahalang dumiskarte para dito, siya na ang kukuha ng eksperto na magsasagawa ng pag-aaral sa inyong mag-asawa upang matiyak kung meron ngang psychological incapacity sa bahagi ng iyong asawa.

 

Dumulog na sa abugado. Good luck sa iyo!

 

Maraming Salamat po!

[superboym16]

HELP, i need your help regarding adultery. nung una na nagcommit sha adultery napatawad sha then after ng patawad pasekreto pa rin na nagkikita yung dalawa. pwede po ba magsampa ng kaso na adultery? salamat sa mga tutulong.

[rocco69]

dun sa mga naunang insidente, dahil pinatawad mo siya, baka sabihin ng batas na pinatawad mo hindi lang siya kundi silang dalawa, kaya lalabas na di na pwedeng gamitin na ground for adultery (kung may ebidensya sya na pinatawad mo na nga sila. Kung wala namang ebidensya, bakit mo sasabihin sa husgado na pinatawad mo sila)

 

pero sigurado na sa mga bagong insidente pagkatapos mo siyang patawarin, pwede kang magsampa ng adultery case. alalahanin mo lang, ang mahalaga sa kaso mo ay EBIDENSYA. Kailangan may matibay kang ebidensya na sila ay nagsisiping (di naman kailangang direktang ebidensya na sila ay nagsisiping, at wala namang nagse-sex sa publiko, lagi itong patago, pwede ang circumstantial evidence, pero dapat matibay at malakas). Kung mga party party at date date lang, hindi yun sapat!

 

HELP, i need your help regarding adultery. nung una na nagcommit sha adultery napatawad sha then after ng patawad pasekreto pa rin na nagkikita yung dalawa. pwede po ba magsampa ng kaso na adultery? salamat sa mga tutulong.

Edited August 6, 2012 by rocco69

[superboym16]

ATTY., sa pangalawang insedente wala po ako matibay na ebidensha ang ebedensha ko lang e nagkikita sila. pero yung sa unang insedente matibay at sigurado na mananalo ako. pwede ko ba e base pa din yung file ko sa unang insedente. yung pwede nya gawing ebidensha sa pagpapatawad ko dun sa unang insedente e yung pagsasama namin gang mangyari yung pangalawang insedente. pano po eto? malaki ba tyansa ko na manalo sa kaso pag ituloy ko ang kaso?

 

dun sa mga naunang insidente, dahil pinatawad mo siya, baka sabihin ng batas na pinatawad mo hindi lang siya kundi silang dalawa, kaya lalabas na di na pwedeng gamitin na ground for adultery (kung may ebidensya sya na pinatawad mo na nga sila. Kung wala namang ebidensya, bakit mo sasabihin sa husgado na pinatawad mo sila)

 

pero sigurado na sa mga bagong insidente pagkatapos mo siyang patawarin, pwede kang magsampa ng adultery case. alalahanin mo lang, ang mahalaga sa kaso mo ay EBIDENSYA. Kailangan may matibay kang ebidensya na sila ay nagsisiping (di naman kailangang direktang ebidensya na sila ay nagsisiping, at wala namang nagse-sex sa publiko, lagi itong patago, pwede ang circumstantial evidence, pero dapat matibay at malakas). Kung mga party party at date date lang, hindi yun sapat!

[NihonJin]

Up ko lang po sana ulit un tanong ko na ito, thanks!

 

Anung grounds of argument ba ang puede kong gamitin regarding conjugal properties just in case, if ever kaya ko nang magfile ng annulment primary ang reason ko is to secure exclusive property ng bahay ko. Actually eversince naman na I purchased the house wala naman nanggaling sa kanya, maliban sa renovation expenses which is one time lang. the house is mortgaged and she never contributed to pay the monthly amortization. Kami ng mother ko ang nagfifinance sa bahay. I read from the articles that I can file an exclusive ownership, and balak koi reimburse sa kanya un binigay nyang pinangrenovate ng bahay nuon. Before nun nagpapadala sya napupunta lang naman sa panggastos sa anak namin. She is the one who went away literally nagabroad sya, and ngaun if ever magbabakasyon sya I doubt if she wishes to stay in our house. Isa pa I have a gf already for 2 yrs now. In the future I want to build a family again also na maititira ko sa bahay ko, hindi un maglilive in kami sa kung saan saan.

 

Lumalabas kasi na co borrower cya nun house ko, its just frustrating for me na hiniwalayan na nga ako tapos sarili kong bahay hindi ko mapatirhan in the future kung gusto ko uli magkapamilya, avoiding the scandal which may erupt dahil kasal nga ako.

[moed]

Up ko lang po sana ulit un tanong ko na ito, thanks!

 

Anung grounds of argument ba ang puede kong gamitin regarding conjugal properties just in case, if ever kaya ko nang magfile ng annulment primary ang reason ko is to secure exclusive property ng bahay ko. Actually eversince naman na I purchased the house wala naman nanggaling sa kanya, maliban sa renovation expenses which is one time lang. the house is mortgaged and she never contributed to pay the monthly amortization. Kami ng mother ko ang nagfifinance sa bahay. I read from the articles that I can file an exclusive ownership, and balak koi reimburse sa kanya un binigay nyang pinangrenovate ng bahay nuon. Before nun nagpapadala sya napupunta lang naman sa panggastos sa anak namin. She is the one who went away literally nagabroad sya, and ngaun if ever magbabakasyon sya I doubt if she wishes to stay in our house. Isa pa I have a gf already for 2 yrs now. In the future I want to build a family again also na maititira ko sa bahay ko, hindi un maglilive in kami sa kung saan saan.

 

Lumalabas kasi na co borrower cya nun house ko, its just frustrating for me na hiniwalayan na nga ako tapos sarili kong bahay hindi ko mapatirhan in the future kung gusto ko uli magkapamilya, avoiding the scandal which may erupt dahil kasal nga ako.

 

Depende kung may ante-nuptial agreement kayo. Sinasabi mo conjugal property yan, pero may legal meaning ang conjugal property under the Family Code. Yan ang under sa Regime of Conjugal Partnership of Gains. Pag wala kayong ante-nuptial agreement, System of Absolute Community of Property ang mag govern sa property relations ninyo.

 

Section 2. What Constitutes Community Property

 

Art. 91. Unless otherwise provided in this Chapter or in the marriage settlements, the community property shall consist of all the property owned by the spouses at the time of the celebration of the marriage or acquired thereafter. (197a)

 

Art. 92. The following shall be excluded from the community property:

 

(1) Property acquired during the marriage by gratuitous title by either spouse, and the fruits as well as the income thereof, if any, unless it is expressly provided by the donor, testator or grantor that they shall form part of the community property;

 

(2) Property for personal and exclusive use of either spouse. However, jewelry shall form part of the community property;

 

(3) Property acquired before the marriage by either spouse who has legitimate descendants by a former marriage, and the fruits as well as the income, if any, of such property. (201a)

 

Art. 93. Property acquired during the marriage is presumed to belong to the community, unless it is proved that it is one of those excluded therefrom. (160) chan robles virtual law library

 

Yung puede mong ground gamitin ay ang Art. 92 (1). Puede mong palabasin binigay ng nanay mo sa iyo during the existence of the marriage, not before. Kung di kaya palabasin ito, iprove na part ng house belongs to your mother, para yung part na yon ay hinde kasama sa absolute community of property ninyong magasawa. Mahirap lang kasi nga dahil pagnakapangalan sa yo yang bahay, presumption nyan absolute community dahil what was owned by you at the time of the celebration of the marriage or acquired after the marriage is absolute community of property.

[tsubaki]

Sirs, how much do i need to pay (going rates) for the services of a psychiatrist/psychologist in case of an annulment case by psychological incapacity?

[rocco69]

Pag na-declare na null and void ang kasal mo (depende sa ground, but assuming na psychological incapacity ng asawa mo ang gagamitin mo, and assuming na mananalo ka sa petition mo), dahil null and void from the beginning ang kasal nyo, lalabas na never kayong nakasal . Dahil, never kayong nakasal, walang conjugal property na nangyari sa inyo. Article 147 ng Family Code ang mananaig sa pagsasama nyo.

 

Sa ilalim ng Art. 147, ang sweldo mo (at sweldo rin nya) ay pag-aari nyong dalawa. Kung ang ipinambabayad mo sa monthly amortization ay galing sa sweldo mo (mas malamang sa hindi, dito nga ito galing), kayong dalawa ang may-ari ng sweldo na yun (50-50), kaya lalabas na 50-50 rin kayong may-ari sa bahay. Ito naman ay matter of evidence, kung mapapatunayan mo na ang gumastos lahat sa bahay ay nanay mo, lalabas na wala siyang contribution dun at magiging exclusive property mo yun. Pero, kung wala kang ebidensya na galing sa pera ng nanay mo lang (o di-kaya'y pera mo lang [na hindi galing sa kinikita mo]), lalabas na hati kayo sa bahay.

 

Up ko lang po sana ulit un tanong ko na ito, thanks!

 

Anung grounds of argument ba ang puede kong gamitin regarding conjugal properties just in case, if ever kaya ko nang magfile ng annulment primary ang reason ko is to secure exclusive property ng bahay ko. Actually eversince naman na I purchased the house wala naman nanggaling sa kanya, maliban sa renovation expenses which is one time lang. the house is mortgaged and she never contributed to pay the monthly amortization. Kami ng mother ko ang nagfifinance sa bahay. I read from the articles that I can file an exclusive ownership, and balak koi reimburse sa kanya un binigay nyang pinangrenovate ng bahay nuon. Before nun nagpapadala sya napupunta lang naman sa panggastos sa anak namin. She is the one who went away literally nagabroad sya, and ngaun if ever magbabakasyon sya I doubt if she wishes to stay in our house. Isa pa I have a gf already for 2 yrs now. In the future I want to build a family again also na maititira ko sa bahay ko, hindi un maglilive in kami sa kung saan saan.

 

Lumalabas kasi na co borrower cya nun house ko, its just frustrating for me na hiniwalayan na nga ako tapos sarili kong bahay hindi ko mapatirhan in the future kung gusto ko uli magkapamilya, avoiding the scandal which may erupt dahil kasal nga ako.

[rocco69]

This would normally be part of the fees you pay to your lawyer, i.e. the fee of your lawyer already includes the fees of the psychiatrist. Kung hindi kasama, you ask your lawyer how much (as it is the lawyer who gets the psychiatrist)

 

Sirs, how much do i need to pay (going rates) for the services of a psychiatrist/psychologist in case of an annulment case by psychological incapacity?

[redax]

Up ko lang po sana ulit un tanong ko na ito, thanks!

 

Anung grounds of argument ba ang puede kong gamitin regarding conjugal properties just in case, if ever kaya ko nang magfile ng annulment primary ang reason ko is to secure exclusive property ng bahay ko. Actually eversince naman na I purchased the house wala naman nanggaling sa kanya, maliban sa renovation expenses which is one time lang. the house is mortgaged and she never contributed to pay the monthly amortization. Kami ng mother ko ang nagfifinance sa bahay. I read from the articles that I can file an exclusive ownership, and balak koi reimburse sa kanya un binigay nyang pinangrenovate ng bahay nuon. Before nun nagpapadala sya napupunta lang naman sa panggastos sa anak namin. She is the one who went away literally nagabroad sya, and ngaun if ever magbabakasyon sya I doubt if she wishes to stay in our house. Isa pa I have a gf already for 2 yrs now. In the future I want to build a family again also na maititira ko sa bahay ko, hindi un maglilive in kami sa kung saan saan.

 

Lumalabas kasi na co borrower cya nun house ko, its just frustrating for me na hiniwalayan na nga ako tapos sarili kong bahay hindi ko mapatirhan in the future kung gusto ko uli magkapamilya, avoiding the scandal which may erupt dahil kasal nga ako.

 

Kaya pala yata matagal nasagot tong inquiry mo, medyo confusing. Ako naman, ito yata ang provisions related dito.Under the Family Code:

 

Section 5. Dissolution of Absolute Community Regime

 

Art. 99. The absolute community terminates:

 

(1) Upon the death of either spouse;

 

(2) When there is a decree of legal separation;

 

(3) When the marriage is annulled or declared void; or

 

(4) In case of judicial separation of property during the marriage under Articles 134 to 138. (175a)

 

Section 6. Liquidation of the Absolute Community

Assets and Liabilities

 

Art. 102. Upon dissolution of the absolute community regime, the following procedure shall apply:

 

(1) An inventory shall be prepared, listing separately all the properties of the absolute community and the exclusive properties of each spouse.

 

(2) The debts and obligations of the absolute community shall be paid out of its assets. In case of insufficiency of said assets, the spouses shall be solidarily liable for the unpaid balance with their separate properties in accordance with the provisions of the second paragraph of Article 94.

 

(3) Whatever remains of the exclusive properties of the spouses shall thereafter be delivered to each of them.

 

(4) The net remainder of the properties of the absolute community shall constitute its net assets, which shall be divided equally between husband and wife, unless a different proportion or division was agreed upon in the marriage settlements, or unless there has been a voluntary waiver of such share provided in this Code. For purpose of computing the net profits subject to forfeiture in accordance with Articles 43, No. (2) and 63, No. (2), the said profits shall be the increase in value between the market value of the community property at the time of the celebration of the marriage and the market value at the time of its dissolution.

 

(5) The presumptive legitimes of the common children shall be delivered upon partition, in accordance with Article 51.

 

(6) Unless otherwise agreed upon by the parties, in the partition of the properties, the conjugal dwelling and the lot on which it is situated shall be adjudicated to the spouse with whom the majority of the common children choose to remain. Children below the age of seven years are deemed to have chosen the mother, unless the court has decided otherwise. In case there in no such majority, the court shall decide, taking into consideration the best interests of said children. (n)

 

Dahil my mention of a listing of all the properties of the absolute community, it would appear that the declaration of absolute nullity of the marriage does not affect the property relations of the couple from the time of the marriage. Siempre, if it affects their property relations, wala dapat absolute community of property, as there was no marriage from the beginning. E as stated sa Art. 91. Unless otherwise provided in this Chapter or in the marriage settlements, the community property shall consist of all the property owned by the spouses at the time of the celebration of the marriage or acquired thereafter. (197a) So, babalik pa rin sa exclusion of the exclusive property ang ground na macite mo, which as stated above is: Art. 92. The following shall be excluded from the community property:

 

(1) Property acquired during the marriage by gratuitous title by either spouse, and the fruits as well as the income thereof, if any, unless it is expressly provided by the donor, testator or grantor that they shall form part of the community property;

[Captain16]

mga sir, kailangan ko sana ng lawyer baka po may maire-refer kyo, kaya lang sana yung medyo mura lang naningil kase medyo limited yung budget, magpa-file sana ako ng annulment against my wife, mga magkano po kaya lahat lahat ang aabutin sa gastos para magpahandaan, thanks...

[bonito99]

According to various lawyers, they charge around 300k minimum.All-in.

 

But not all lawyers are the same.

[KenHeine]

To the people who patiently answered the queries here, salamat sa inyong lahat. di ko pa na tapos back read lahat gn posts but now I am more knowledgeable na than I was an hour ago. I will have to get hold of a copy of my marriage certificate first and read it carefully, di ko kasi binasa ng maayos nung pinermahan ko yun. This thread is helping a lot and I will be coming back more often now. I plan to start the process as soon as I get back to the Phil.

[Captain16]

mga GM'sm nay question po sana ako...Pag nag file ba ako ng annulment, ung magiging lawyer ba ng asawa ko ako din magbabayad? kase wala syang work eh? i hope matulungan nyo po ako...thanks.