Annulment 101

[rocco69]

rates are, as a general rule, pareho lang (kung magkano ay depende sa maraming factor, kaya paiba-iba ito, depende sa kausap mo).

 

pareho din lang ang proceedings (burden of proof is still with the petitioner, i.e. kailangang patunayan ng naghain na talagang may basehan para ipa-walang-bisa ang kasal)

 

Boss Rocco .... thanks so much, you're such a big help.

Does the cost of filing a "declaration of nullity" much cheaper than "annulment"

How about the proceeding is it much easier than annulment?

[wildswans]

good day sir. i would like to ask something about marriage matters.

 

i have a friend and she's married for 10 years. her marriage was ok until her husband came home for vacation last year and met a young lady in a culinary training. her husband has been acting differently since then til he went aboard. the young lady applied to be a sea farer as well but was supposed to board a different ship, instead she was assigned to the same ship as the hubby when the hubby's work mate has to leave for emergency. it was a no brainer for the wife that her hubby was responsible for the lady to board the same ship coz her hubby has the authority to request whom to board. the hubby never told the wife about it and she has to learn it from someone else. sources at the ship said the lady and the hubby are close. the wife also found an email which is sort of a signal for two people to meet at wee hours of the morning. when her husband finally came home again for vacation, she waited for him to tell her about the young lady but it never materialized. so she had to take the initiative and asked bout it and also the secret email message but unfortunately, the hubby didn't explain a thing. in short, he just chose to shut up, change topic, lie about certain quesions or just deny it without giving an explanation. he doesnt bother reassures her wife nor comfort her doubt and fears but just say "wala akong babae" or "di ako nambabae". the wife is so fed up already with the hubby treating her like nobody and would very much like to leave his hubby but wants the hubby to support their 2 children's education. the wife suggested annullment to the hubby but he's not open to the idea. so now, the wife plans to draft a contract asking for a specific amount as "sustento" and let the guy signed it then notarized it. will this be honor in court should a problem arises? can she just draft the contract by herself/themselves or is it better to have a lawyer do it? any other way to do this?

[rocco69]

Hindi abugado ang solusyon sa lahat ng problema.

 

Sa problema ng kaibigan mo, hindi siya dapat nag-iisip agad ng annulment. sa tutoo lang, base sa kwento mo, walang ebidensya na katanggap-tanggap sa korte na nambababae si lalaki.

 

ang pinakamaganda talaga diyan, mag-usap sila ng masinsinan tungkol sa relasyon nila. kung ayaw ni lalaki, pilitin nya na mag-mariage counselling sila.

 

kapag umabot lang sa punto na masasabi niya na WALA NA TALAGANG PAG-ASA na sila'y magsama siya dapat lumapit sa abugado. As of now, going to a lawyer only jeopardizes the chances of the parties reconciling with each other.

 

 

 

 

good day sir. i would like to ask something about marriage matters.

 

i have a friend and she's married for 10 years. her marriage was ok until her husband came home for vacation last year and met a young lady in a culinary training. her husband has been acting differently since then til he went aboard. the young lady applied to be a sea farer as well but was supposed to board a different ship, instead she was assigned to the same ship as the hubby when the hubby's work mate has to leave for emergency. it was a no brainer for the wife that her hubby was responsible for the lady to board the same ship coz her hubby has the authority to request whom to board. the hubby never told the wife about it and she has to learn it from someone else. sources at the ship said the lady and the hubby are close. the wife also found an email which is sort of a signal for two people to meet at wee hours of the morning. when her husband finally came home again for vacation, she waited for him to tell her about the young lady but it never materialized. so she had to take the initiative and asked bout it and also the secret email message but unfortunately, the hubby didn't explain a thing. in short, he just chose to shut up, change topic, lie about certain quesions or just deny it without giving an explanation. he doesnt bother reassures her wife nor comfort her doubt and fears but just say "wala akong babae" or "di ako nambabae". the wife is so fed up already with the hubby treating her like nobody and would very much like to leave his hubby but wants the hubby to support their 2 children's education. the wife suggested annullment to the hubby but he's not open to the idea. so now, the wife plans to draft a contract asking for a specific amount as "sustento" and let the guy signed it then notarized it. will this be honor in court should a problem arises? can she just draft the contract by herself/themselves or is it better to have a lawyer do it? any other way to do this?

[wildswans]

Hindi abugado ang solusyon sa lahat ng problema.

 

Sa problema ng kaibigan mo, hindi siya dapat nag-iisip agad ng annulment. sa tutoo lang, base sa kwento mo, walang ebidensya na katanggap-tanggap sa korte na nambababae si lalaki.

 

ang pinakamaganda talaga diyan, mag-usap sila ng masinsinan tungkol sa relasyon nila. kung ayaw ni lalaki, pilitin nya na mag-mariage counselling sila.

 

kapag umabot lang sa punto na masasabi niya na WALA NA TALAGANG PAG-ASA na sila'y magsama siya dapat lumapit sa abugado. As of now, going to a lawyer only jeopardizes the chances of the parties reconciling with each other.

 

thank you sir for the advice. my friend has already tried talking to her husband. she even approach her in a nice way and not confrontational. one month na niyang sinusubukan na magusap sila ng matino pero ayaw talaga ng hubby. the hubby will either keep his mouth totally shut, he would change topic, sometimes would just say kalimutan mo na yun at wag mo na isipin para maging masaya tayo or say good boy ako or hindi ako nambabae. even the siblings of the wife and pamangkins(who doesnt know what's happening) saw that umiba yung kilos ni guy kasi laging tahimik, gusto magisa at minsan parang wala sa sarili. the wife is still asking around sa ship for proof tapos ganon pa treatment ni hubby kaya nahihirapan na siya at 3 weeks nalang babalik na ulit ng barko si guy at ayaw na ng wife mapranning kaya naisip nalang niya to set his husband free basta sustentohan mga anak nila. she told his hubby na punta sila sa lawyer for sustento and the hubby said oo daw. kaya niya naisip kung pwedeng sila nalang gawa contract about sustento kaya lang di lang niya sure kung honor sa court yun kapag di tinupad ni guy yung usapang sustento.

[pussyeater]

Greetings dear sirs!

 

I have a barkada who has had his marriage annulled. He is currently planning to remarry his current GF who, incidentally, also has had her previous marriage annulled. Mas nauna pa ngang ma-annul yung sa GF niya by 5 years (2003), yung sa kanya nung 2008 lang. I just want to ask what requirements they need to submit to the civil registrar in order for them to get married. He showed me a NSO-certified true copy of his marriage certificate with the words printed on the side stating that it was Null and Void ab Initio (tama ba spelling ko?). Is this all they need? If not, what other documents do they need to secure and more importantly, where can they get those?

 

Maraming salamat in advance!

Edited April 18, 2011 by pussyeater

[rocco69]

Art. 13 of the Family Code says, in order to get a marriage license from the Civil Registrar:

 

Art. 13. In case either of the contracting parties has been previously married, the applicant shall be required to furnish, instead of the birth or baptismal certificate required in the last preceding article, the death certificate of the deceased spouse or the judicial decree of the absolute divorce, or the judicial decree of annulment or declaration of nullity of his or her previous marriage.

In case the death certificate cannot be secured, the party shall make an affidavit setting forth this circumstance and his or her actual civil status and the name and date of death of the deceased spouse. (61a)

 

Greetings dear sirs!

 

I have a barkada who has had his marriage annulled. He is currently planning to remarry his current GF who, incidentally, also has had her previous marriage annulled. Mas nauna pa ngang ma-annul yung sa GF niya by 5 years (2003), yung sa kanya nung 2008 lang. I just want to ask what requirements they need to submit to the civil registrar in order for them to get married. He showed me a NSO-certified true copy of his marriage certificate with the words printed on the side stating that it was Null and Void ab Initio (tama ba spelling ko?). Is this all they need? If not, what other documents do they need to secure and more importantly, where can they get those?

 

Maraming salamat in advance!

[bher2]

pwede po ba kahit ako na lang ang magfile sa court ng declaration of nullity?

[jazon7099]

sir rocco, querry lng po.

ung friend ko po kc kinasal sila ng wife nya nung 17 pa lng ung babae. tapos, nung 19 na ung wife, kinasal sila uli sa simbahan. gusto na nya hiwalayan ung babae ngaun kc may lalake na ung wife.

pwede ba nya gawing reason ung pagiging minor nung wife nung una sila ngpakasa for nullity? nasa 40's na age nila ngaun.

if ever, naregister ung dalawang kasal, did the second marriage cure the defectin the first marriage? or the second marriage be considered a bigamous one, notwithstanding same ung parties?

thanks in advance po.

more power

[rocco69]

assuming na kinasal sila on or after August 3, 1988 (effectivity ng Family Code), walang bisa ang unang kasal dahil wala sa edad yung babae. sa madaling salita, sa mata ng batas, walang kasal na namagitan sa kanila. lumalabas na kinasal lamang sila nung 19 na si babae. mabisa ang kasal na yun (assuming na kumuha sila ng marriage license para sa pangalawang kasal), kung kaya't hindi niya pwedeng gawing dahilan ang pagiging minor nung wife nung una sila nagpakasal (not counted kasi yung unang kasal).

 

dahilan dito, hindi ito magagamit bilang basehan para ipawalang-bisa ang kasal niya (ang posibleng gamitin ay psychological incapacity sa panig ng babae dahilan sa panlalalaki nito)

 

sir rocco, querry lng po.

ung friend ko po kc kinasal sila ng wife nya nung 17 pa lng ung babae. tapos, nung 19 na ung wife, kinasal sila uli sa simbahan. gusto na nya hiwalayan ung babae ngaun kc may lalake na ung wife.

pwede ba nya gawing reason ung pagiging minor nung wife nung una sila ngpakasa for nullity? nasa 40's na age nila ngaun.

if ever, naregister ung dalawang kasal, did the second marriage cure the defectin the first marriage? or the second marriage be considered a bigamous one, notwithstanding same ung parties?

thanks in advance po.

more power

Edited April 29, 2011 by rocco69

[transformer]

sir rocco i just want to clarify...nag back read kc ako...may sinabi ka na i check ang married license sa lugar kung saan ito naka rehestro... to find out kung rehestrado ito...

my question is kung may record ka sa NSO ibig ba sabihin 100% percent valid ang kasal...????sa kaso ko kc walang number na nakalagay..nalaman ko lang ito nung nag submmit ako ng married certificate sa school na pinapasukan ng anak ko..nde nila tinanggap yung original ko..thats why i ask a new copy from NSO ..pero same pa rin walang number,,..ang pagkakaiba lang printed ito sa secured paper kaya tinggangap ng school...

[AsILayDying]

Sir, na-pass na ba yung bill sa murang annulment?

 

 

Cheers!

[xavier_xerver]

Mga sir, tanong lang po kung 7 years na kayong hiwalay ng wife mo as in separated.

 

Pwede na po ba itong gawing grounds for filing an annullment?

 

Or kelangan pa rin magproduce ng evidence or ibang grounds for filing the annulment.

 

Salamat po in advance.

[rocco69]

1. kung may record ka sa NSO ibig ba sabihin 100% percent valid ang kasal?

 

hindi. hindi naman requirement para sa validity ng isang kasal ang pagrerehistro sa NSO.

 

para maging mabisa ang kasal, kailangan may kapasidad ang kinasal, may lisensya, may kapangyarihang magkasal ang nagkasal sa mga partido, at may seremonya kung saan tinanggap nila bilang asawa ang isa't-isa (ang NSO registration, di requirement sa bisa ng kasal, pero ito ang matibay na ebidensya na ikaw ay kinasal).

 

kung walang numero ng marriage license sa marriage certificate, check mo sa Civil Registrar kung saan nakarehistro ang kasal mo kung may kopya sila ng license na ginamit sa kasal mo. kung wala, lumalabas na wala kang marriage license. Kung ganun, walang bisa ang kasal mo at pwede kang maghain ng petisyon para ideklarang walang bisa nga ito

 

sir rocco i just want to clarify...nag back read kc ako...may sinabi ka na i check ang married license sa lugar kung saan ito naka rehestro... to find out kung rehestrado ito...

my question is kung may record ka sa NSO ibig ba sabihin 100% percent valid ang kasal...????sa kaso ko kc walang number na nakalagay..nalaman ko lang ito nung nag submmit ako ng married certificate sa school na pinapasukan ng anak ko..nde nila tinanggap yung original ko..thats why i ask a new copy from NSO ..pero same pa rin walang number,,..ang pagkakaiba lang printed ito sa secured paper kaya tinggangap ng school...

[rocco69]

Pwede na po ba itong gawing grounds for filing an annullment?

 

hindi po. kelangan pa rin magproduce ng evidence or ibang grounds for filing the annulment

 

Mga sir, tanong lang po kung 7 years na kayong hiwalay ng wife mo as in separated.

 

Pwede na po ba itong gawing grounds for filing an annullment?

 

Or kelangan pa rin magproduce ng evidence or ibang grounds for filing the annulment.

 

Salamat po in advance.

[jazon7099]

assuming na kinasal sila on or after August 3, 1988 (effectivity ng Family Code), walang bisa ang unang kasal dahil wala sa edad yung babae. sa madaling salita, sa mata ng batas, walang kasal na namagitan sa kanila. lumalabas na kinasal lamang sila nung 19 na si babae. mabisa ang kasal na yun (assuming na kumuha sila ng marriage license para sa pangalawang kasal), kung kaya't hindi niya pwedeng gawing dahilan ang pagiging minor nung wife nung una sila nagpakasal (not counted kasi yung unang kasal).

 

dahilan dito, hindi ito magagamit bilang basehan para ipawalang-bisa ang kasal niya (ang posibleng gamitin ay psychological incapacity sa panig ng babae dahilan sa panlalalaki nito)

 

Maraming salamat po sir rocco