JFK Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 http://m.inquirer.net/business/238800 Quote Link to comment
JFK Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 http://www.tribune.net.ph/headlines/narco-tags-lp-kingpins http://manilastandard.net/mobile/article/249805 http://www.tribune.net.ph/commentary/up-to-more-mischief-again http://www.tribune.net.ph/commentary/key-to-pandora-s-box Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/941477/bato-to-retirees-ill-quadruple-your-salaries-when-im-president Wow. Is this the same Bato who just told Leni R to stop thinking about her presidential ambitions? Quote Link to comment
JFK Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 http://www.tribune.net.ph/commentary/presumption-of-innocence-absent-in-lawyers-group Quote Link to comment
JFK Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 http://www.manilatimes.net/tale-two-deceptions-sws-marawi/361051/ Quote Link to comment
JFK Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 http://thestandard.com.ph/mobile/article/251136 Quote Link to comment
JFK Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 https://www.rappler.com/nation/187877-philippine-red-cross-reaction-trillanes-complaint http://www.manilatimes.net/impeachment-chief-justice-sereno/361546/ http://www.manilatimes.net/mamasapano-massacre-worst-crime-ever-committed-philippine-president/361800/ http://thestandard.com.ph/mobile/article/251284 http://www.tribune.net.ph/commentary/author/71-ninezcachoolivares Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Sa US malabo mangyari ito simply because they will have a nightmare dealing with lawsuits malulugi ang gobyerno and Sanofi. Think about the psychological effect nito sa mga magulang at batang nabigyan ng vaccine, after 2 years kapag nagkasakit (esp. high fever) na yung bata iisipin na baka ito yung side effect ng vaccine. DOH eyes refund for dengue vaccineBy Mayen Jaymalin (The Philippine Star) | Updated December 5, 2017 - 12:00am http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/12/05/1765465/doh-eyes-refund-dengue-vaccine Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Main issue aside ... Eh yun ngang napagkamalan at napatay sa drug war wala kang empathy o concern. Sabi nga collateral damage ang mga yan kaya panay palakpak mo tapos eto buhay pero tumaas ang risk factor super concerned ka? talaga? wala bang psychological effect sa mga magulang o kapamilya ng mga napagkamalang napatay dahil sa wod? Hypocrisy at its finest. Sa US kapag may maling napatay kaso din ang haharapin hindi pwedeng charge to collateral damage kaya malabong mangyari rin Pramis! Pero kakaiba talaga ang Pinas eh. Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Turn a blind eye and changing the topic won't save your lodi. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2017/12/philippines-icc-must-examine-war-on-drugs-crimes/ Unfortunately for dutertards what i am talking about is also a current issue which apparently they would rather not talk about May concern ka sa batang binigyan ng dengue vaccine pero bale wala sa iyo yun kinuhang buhay sa mga bata. Tama na pagkukunwari just to play politics. Ibabalik ko ang tanong ... kung anak mo ang mapatay dahil sa ngalan ng war on drugs payag ka? Tutal collateral damage lang siya di po ba? Edited December 5, 2017 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Well... the anti-dengue vaccine campaign has been going on longer in Duterte admin than it was during the last one. If they saw some dangers or anomaly with it, why did they not stop the program?Pero kung police/military forces nga naman ang usapan, biglang lahat ng past incompetence/abuses (from last admin) mawawala magically, 'no?Sabi ko nga the gift of foresight is a blessed one. Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Wow comparing Wod - War on Drugs and War on Dengue Collateral damage din pala yug mga 700k+ children vaccinated. Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Should be comparable. Because both are health-related. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) Both can be deadly as well ... Ilan na namatay sa war on drug compared sa war on dengue? And technically kahit sino pwede mapagkamalan, mapatay at tawaging collateral damage. So definitely the number is definitely higher than 700k++ Incomparable nga! Lol Edited December 5, 2017 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Correct me if I'm wrong: Sumimoto was chosen as the maintenance provider... but does it need public bidding or no? Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 From what i hear sa program ni kabayan parang ayaw ni sumitomo or tinanghihan niya na bumalik to provide maintenance. Sa press release parang govt to govt ang negosasyon wherein si sumitomo supposedly ang magproprovide ng service. Am not sure how this works but parang di nga dadaan sa bidding. Maybe the dds can shed light into this matter Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) Speaking of changing the topic. Nice work on the traffic thread, Nag ask ako ng particular na project na sinasabi mo na questionable. Alas, nag change ka ng topic about sa sumitomo being awarded as the maintenance provider ng MRT. Bravo Haroots2 Posting the link on the awarding to Sumitomo is just an FYI post. Bawal ba yun hindi naman niya OT diba? Its' not even a reply to your post. Edited December 6, 2017 by haroots2 Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Speaking of changing the topic. Nice work on the traffic thread, Nag ask ako ng particular na project na sinasabi mo na questionable. Alas, nag change ka ng topic about sa sumitomo being awarded as the maintenance provider ng MRT. Bravo Haroots2Parang yun pangungutya na palpak dahil sa lumabas na risk issues at nun tinanong bakit di ipinatigil ni lodi ayun change to graft and corruption ang issue bigla di naman nasabi ano ba ang pagkakamali at anong corruption ang naganap. Hayz Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) Parang yun pangungutya na palpak dahil sa lumabas na risk issues at nun tinanong bakit di ipinatigil ni lodi ayun change to graft and corruption ang issue bigla di naman nasabi ano ba ang pagkakamali at anong corruption ang naganap. Hayz Ang palpak dito is the decision making if you analyze the article I've posted unless mayroon talagang corruption ang initial intention nila sa project. Wala pa naman may alam nun na may side effect yung vaccine pero tayo yung unang nag mass implementation without any concrete study by the WHO tapos minadali pa ayun sablay tuloy ngayon. Edited December 6, 2017 by haroots2 Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 As I know, this was vetted by WHO before it was implemented. For sure there was not a long-term study yet as it was pretty new at the time. There was a WHO guideline (I think) that says that it can be used on populations where there were high prevalence of Dengue for which the PH qualified for. For corruption allegation: if proven, then the guilty party should be punished. This is where an audit comes in. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) Ang palpak dito is the decision making if you analyze the article I've posted unless mayroon talagang corruption ang initial intention nila sa project. Wala pa naman may alam nun na may side effect yung vaccine pero tayo yung unang nag mass implementation without any concrete study by the WHO tapos minadali pa ayun sablay tuloy ngayon.Una the program had a backing of who. Google mo philstar dtd 4/19/16 WHO backs DOH anti dengue vaccination program. So are you misleading us to win an argument. Kaya nga kita tinatanong kung may corruption ano ang pruweba? Kung palpak un naging desisyon to implement bakit di pinatigil ng current admin? in fact base sa isang article na nabasa ko un 2nd phase ng vaccination program from oct to dec 2016 mga higit kumulang sa 415k na katao ang nabakunahan. So sino-sino accountable sa lahat ng nabakunahan dapat? Tuturo mo na naman lahat ng kapalpakan kay penoy? Hugas kamay sa 2nd phase na si lodi na nasa pwesto? Kung mangutya ka kasi ... So tinanong mo kung pinayuhan ba ni PNoy magpabakuna si Bimby eh bakit di mo kutyain at tanungin din kung pinayuhan ba ni Lodi magpabakuna yun daughter niya sa kanyang kabit. Problema sa inyo pag mabagal kasi pinagaaralan pinadadaan sa bidding at kung anu anong proseso sasabihing walang ginagawa. Eh paano naman KUNG malinis ang intensiyon at naniniwala na maganda ang programa kaya minadali ang implementasyon ... ayun sisi din kasi minadali at di pinagaralan o naghintay muna ng 1-2 years. Lol. O ngayon alam na paano magisip ang dutertards. Edited December 6, 2017 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) Una the program had a backing of who. Google mo philstar dtd 4/19/16 WHO backs DOH anti dengue vaccination program. So are you misleading us to win an argument. No recommendation to use Dengvaxia, WHO clarifies Published December 5, 2017 8:43pm In a statement, WHO said such recommendation was not included in its position paper released in July last year."WHO's position on the dengue vaccine was published in July 2016, based on recommendations of the strategic group of experts on immunisation which met and published preliminary advice in mid-April 2016," WHO said. It added, "The WHO position paper did not include a recommendation to countries to introduce the dengue vaccine into their national immunization programs." Edited December 6, 2017 by daphne loves derby Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 So paano yan nun ni launch yun programa sabi ng who country rep yun vaccine effort natin is consistent with the recommendations made by the WHO expert grp. Vs yun sinasabi umano sa position paper later on na lumabas lang nun jul 2016. In other words is it possible it was implemented in good faith by the past admin sans the availability of the WHO position paper? But what abt the duterte admin? Why did they continue the program depite the position paper saying so? Well simple lang yan sa tingin ko...walang problema naman kung sabihin na naging pabaya un past admin. What abt the current admin they are equally liable as well. Sabay na lang ipakulong si du30 at penoy. Quote Link to comment
JFK Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) The dengue vaccine was implemented during PNoy's time which should not have been in the first place. Health Sec. Garin even suggested not to implement it but PNoy still insisted on it. Period. http://www.manilatimes.net/aquino-ordered-health-secretary-buy-p3-5-b-defective-dengue-vaccine/366550/ Edited December 6, 2017 by JFK Quote Link to comment
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