photographer Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 honestly..di ko trip ung inasal ni L.A. againts sa referee, ung astang uumbagan nia ung referee na nakatalikod...for me kasi parang iba na asal or attitude nia ,during sa ibang game nila...ganun din...kung umasta againts sa mga referee,sama kung makatingin, mostly sasabihin natural lang un pero for me kasi parang iba na ang dating nun....sorry hirap iexplain..siguro di ko lang trip ung ganun asta...para kasing ala na respeto pati opisyal gugulpihin na??.ok lang for me ung balyahan..sikuhan..or suntukan sa court..pero ung nakatalikod or pati official eh papatulan mo na para bang napaka untouchable mo na di ka dapat tawagan...... about sa tweet ni mark..bakit di nia sisihin ung coaching staff?? kahit makipagbalyahan sila kung di rin nila alam gagawin or dahil wlang play maibigay...ala mangyayari....pansin nio si Norman Black...kahit lamang na sila ...nakatayo parin ung coach...binabantayan ung laro...si ato agustin..lagi naka upo..payuko yuko lang... sana man lang mapalitan ung coach and magkaroon ng mga dedicated players tlaga... Ang malupit nga sa akusasyon ni Mark, mas pabor pa siya sa coaching staff. Mas gusto pa nga niyang ma retain yung coaching staff which baffles the minds of jaded Ginebra fans. Yung asta ni L.A. ganun kapag frustrated na yung tao sa nangyayari sa court. Maski naman si Jawo kung murahin yung referee kapag palpak ang tawag or unfair. Its fire in the eyes, fire in the mind na nag t trigger ng ganun. Huwag lang sasaktan physically na isang pagkakamali ni Jawo at Big Boy nuong bata pa sila. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Ang pinagtataka ko ....Bakit may bumoto pa kina ato at juno??? LOLMga boto yun ng kalabang teams.........hahaha..........para manatili sila at hindi na manalo ang Barangay Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Here's an interesting discourse on MC 47 as BGK's face and the loss of the 'never-say-die' mantra: https://ph.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/judgmentcall/an-upset-win-and-an-upset-player-090934840-nba.html Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 ...and another one on the Big J's coaching comeback http://www.philstar.com/sports/2014/04/24/1315584/jaworski-due-pba-comeback-ginebra-coach Quote Link to comment
junix Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 honestly..di ko trip ung inasal ni L.A. againts sa referee, ung astang uumbagan nia ung referee na nakatalikod...for me kasi parang iba na asal or attitude nia ,during sa ibang game nila...ganun din...kung umasta againts sa mga referee,sama kung makatingin, mostly sasabihin natural lang un pero for me kasi parang iba na ang dating nun....sorry hirap iexplain..siguro di ko lang trip ung ganun asta...para kasing ala na respeto pati opisyal gugulpihin na??.ok lang for me ung balyahan..sikuhan..or suntukan sa court..pero ung nakatalikod or pati official eh papatulan mo na para bang napaka untouchable mo na di ka dapat tawagan...... about sa tweet ni mark..bakit di nia sisihin ung coaching staff?? kahit makipagbalyahan sila kung di rin nila alam gagawin or dahil wlang play maibigay...ala mangyayari....pansin nio si Norman Black...kahit lamang na sila ...nakatayo parin ung coach...binabantayan ung laro...si ato agustin..lagi naka upo..payuko yuko lang... sana man lang mapalitan ung coach and magkaroon ng mga dedicated players tlaga... Ang malupit nga sa akusasyon ni Mark, mas pabor pa siya sa coaching staff. Mas gusto pa nga niyang ma retain yung coaching staff which baffles the minds of jaded Ginebra fans. Yung asta ni L.A. ganun kapag frustrated na yung tao sa nangyayari sa court. Maski naman si Jawo kung murahin yung referee kapag palpak ang tawag or unfair. Its fire in the eyes, fire in the mind na nag t trigger ng ganun. Huwag lang sasaktan physically na isang pagkakamali ni Jawo at Big Boy nuong bata pa sila.well sa akin you just can't blame the guy. dala na ng frustrations niya yun. anyone who tries his best but just can't seem to accomplish what he wants gets really frustrated...and when you are desperate, it just snaps. ganun ang nakita ko kay LA. on caguioa's tirade against his teammates, mukhang below the belt naman. palagay ko naman lahat sila sumubok at nagtrabaho. kung di man "nakipagpalitan ng mukha" yung ibang players, palagay ko coaching staff na ang may diperensya. as i said before, the coaching staff doesn't seem to know how to motivate and bring out the best in the players. uulitin ko, ato and company are INCOMPETENT!!! unless and until the coaching staff is totally revamped, ginebra will not go places...put in the "Big J" and we will see a different ginebra team. Quote Link to comment
game_boy Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 big j vs. yeng guiao...murahan sa basketball court (read: intensity, passion for the game, etc). i can't wait to see this...to all kids, go to sleep now. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 big j vs. yeng guiao...murahan sa basketball court (read: intensity, passion for the game, etc). i can't wait to see this...to all kids, go to sleep now. basketball at its very best...indeed, two knowledgeable coaches who personify intensity and passion Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Marlou Aquino on possible Robert Jaworski comeback with Ginebra: 'Naku, mas dadagundong ang mga coliseum'From: Snow BaduaApril 24, 2014, 02:35 pmhttp://contents.spin.ph/image/aquino-jaworski-42414.jpgFormer Ginebra star Marlou Aquino pointed out that Robert Jaworski won several championships while coaching against the likes of Yeng Guiao, Chot Reyes, Norman Black and Tim Cone - coaches who still rule the pro league to this day. "'Yung style naman ng system namin noon, nasubukan naman namin against those coaches. Nag-champion pa nga kami, di ba?" he says. Jerome AscanoAS soon as news of Robert Jaworski's possible return to the PBA circulated, one of his former players, Marlou Aquino, had just one piece of reminder for the present crop of Ginebra players. Better shed your superstar mentality. "Hindi naman sa nagbibigay ng advice sa mga players ngayon, kasi baka sasabihin nga tao, 'Iba noon, iba ngayon," said the 6-9 center out of Sta. Barbara, Pangasinan, who spent the best years of his career playing for Jaworski under the Ginebra banner. "Pero ang sa akin lang, kapag lalaro ka kay Coach Sonny, hindi pupuwedeng lamang ka sa mga kakampi mo. Dapat pantay-pantay kayo. Walang superstar-superstar," he added. "Kasi kung lalaro ka sa kanya, itatanong mo lang sa sarili mo, 'Mas sikat ba ako sa tao na ito?'" Asked how it would be like for Jaworski if he makes a PBA comeback amid news that he is in talks with San Miguel Corp. big boss Ramon S. Ang on a possible return to Ginebra, Aquino could not help but compare the style of Ginebra players during his time and now. "Noong kami kasi nun, hindi namin inuuna ang sarili namin, hindi kami takot ma-injure, bugbog kung bugbog. Kasi naglalaro kami noon para sa mga fans," said the 40-year-old big man. "Kahit siguro pilay-pilay na kami noon, pag naghiyawan at palakpakan na ang fans, nawawala lahat. 'Yun kami noon, walang injury-injury. Laban kung laban," Aquino added. The many-time All-Star also declared that Ginebra's brand of game back then was so physical that it would put the tough play of current PBA toughie Rain or Shine to shame. "'Yung style ng laro namin nun talagang physical. 'Yun naman nakilala ang Ginebra eh. Parang Rain or Shine ngayon, kaya lang mas matindi pa," he said. Aquino's longtime teammate, Bal David, said a lot of things are bound to change at Ginebra if and when Jaworski is asked to take over the reins again. "Alam naman natin impact ni coach, para rin ma-feel ng ibang players especially nung mga baguhan kung paano mag-coach ang the Big J," said the former Ginebra star. "I'm sure pag na-adopt nila ang system ni coach, maraming mababago, alam mo na ibig kong sabihin." Aquino believes that Jaworski still has what it takes to lead a team to a championship, even if coaching and basketball technology have greatly evolved since the last time the 'Big J' coached 16 years ago. "Tingin ko pwede pa 'yung style ni Coach Sonny. Kasi noong time namin, hindi nga kami kasing scientific ngayon pero may mga coaches rin noon na halos kapareho na ng ngayon ang style," said Aquino, now an assistant coach for the the Adamson Falcons. Aquino also pointed out that Jaworski won several championships while coaching against the likes of Yeng Guiao, Chot Reyes, Norman Black and Tim Cone - coaches who still rule the pro league to this day. "'Yung style naman ng system namin noon, nasubukan naman namin against those coaches. Nag-champion pa nga kami, di ba?" said Aquino. "Yung triangle offense nga ni Coach Tim, buhay na 'yun noon. Pero tinalo rin naman namin sila sa championship," he added. "Nasa diskarte na lang 'yan. Saka malay natin, nag-aral at nag-observe din ng mga bago (na sistema) si Coach Sonny!" And how it would be in the event the 'Big J' returns, he was asked. "Naku, malaki 'yun. Maganda 'yun. Malaking bagay 'yun hindi lamang sa Ginebra at PBA, kundi pati na rin sa Philippine basketball. Ang ganda nun, kaya sana matuloy," said Aquino. "Sasabog talaga ang mga venue ngayon. Mas dadagundong ang mga coliseum," added the 1996 Rookie of the Year awardee. The PBA great also has no doubt in his mind that a Jaworski-led Ginebra team can fill coliseums as big as the soon-to-open Philippine Arena, reputedly the biggest domed arena in the world with a capacity of 55,0000, in Bocaue, Bulacan. "Oo naman. Eh noong nag-champion nga kami dati, nag-motorcade kami sa Metro Manila, para kaming Manny Pacquiao," he said. "Puno ang mga lansangan noon, lalo na dun sa Roxas Boulevard, paano pa ngayon. Mas marami nang tao." Edited April 24, 2014 by photographer Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Palagay ko pagbalik ni Jawo sa Ginebra, wala nang espasyong mapaglalagyan ng tao sa loob ng coliseum. Maski ipis at daga manonood. Ang ingay siguro pagpasok ng Ginebra sa court...............Sino kaya mga masisibak sa team Edited April 24, 2014 by photographer Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Si yeng guiao ba scientific ang mga plays? Dont get me wrong...i love the BIG J...but im abit apprehensive on his coaching styles....before ok yun style nya eh...pero ngayon daming style na ng mga plays...among the batch of coaches now who went to war against big J..only tim cone black and yeng G are left... Pangit naman kung physicalan lang idadagdag nya...nde mamaximize yun mga potential nina japhet ellis forrester....Pero pag nde pwede si big J...yeng guiao, tim cone and norman black would fit ginebras system and players....but im still looking forward to jawo returning to the PBA....not only to Ginebra... Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Napakalakas ng line-up ng Ginebra, tamang coach lang ang kailangan, ok na sana si Chua kaso dahil sa pulitika sa San Miguel Corp./management naalis s'ya bilang head coach at naging coach nila ang bopols na si Agustin, tapos si Sauler who steered DLSU in his first try, I don't know what's up with the players but they have to do something about it. Isa pa ay ang import woes nila, 'di sila makakuha ng maayos na import, kung si Freeman na ang kinuha nila noon pa instead of Rogers and Powell baka mas maganda ang naging performance nila ok nman yung Freeman last game... wla lng talgang naging suporta masyado sa locals Japeth Aguilar ay nawawala sa Conference na ito... ang lamya lamya dahil sa limited minutes?? coaching style??? ano ba tlaga Japeth! malaking pader nnman ang gigibain ng BGK... TNT handa handa na kyo sa biglaang paggising ng Baranggay! Ang tanong.... magising ba o huling game na nila ang Game 1 against TNT. kakawalang gana... wla ng nasigaw ng Ginebra! For some reason or another nawala 'yung aggressiveness ni Japeth na nakita natin noong 1st conference, dati me slam dunk na at me medium range jumper at tres pa, ngayon parang pigil ang laro at maski ang jumper tila me pag-aaalinlangan pa Freeman should be able to compliment yun twin towers....kung pagsabayin sila....tamang tama sa 3 ilagay si freeman.... Tapos pf si japhet and greg...that would also address yun rebounding problems ng ginebra.....malakas magrebound si gabe...then sabay fastbreak sina japhet....problem lang mababawasan ang playing time ni ellis naman...Medyo wala pa sa kondisyon si freeman...nabibtin pa ang mga drive nya...pero tingin ko....either Ginebra wins one or both at tanggal ang TnT... Sayang si Freeman, kung s'ya ang kinuha noong una pa lang instead of Rogers and Powell baka mas maganda ang naging slate nila, baka pwede sa 3rd conference si Freeman as their import hindi ko gets. undersized na nga import nila bakot nde pa nila gamitin biggest (tallest) advantage nila? pinagsasabay pa nila urbiztondo at tenorio! small ball talaga dati kasi nga wala silang choice. pero bakit ayaw nila gamitin advantage nila? Minsan nga nasa loob si Tenorio/Urbiztondo, Helterbrand at MC47, geez paano ka naman makakalamang sa rebounding, hindi na nga nagba box out sina Japeth at Greg tapos puro maliliit pa ang nasa loobOf course parang interbarangay ang laro nila compared sa TnT...tama ka sir photographer...walang ka play play eh...unlike TnT talagang hasang hasa ang play...paulit ulit...as mentioned before...LA urbiztondo and jayjay...isa lang play ng ginebra...dribble dribble ...itry yun pick and roll...pagnde magmaterialize dridribble then pasa...ayun kung san last napunta yun bola ititira na....may isang play na napakamot nlang ako nagdrive si LA...tapos wala ...labas ulit ...pasa pasa..pero imbes na papasok sa loob...anak ng ??? sa labas biglang tinira ni jayjay ayun sablay!!!...Hayyy wala talaga ...its not the never say attitude ang problema....its the walang alam and paki attitude ng coaching staff and management....from the monster team with twice to beat advantage nun all filipino ..nde nakapsok sa championship...hanggang ngayon na pinilit si rodgers matagal bago pinalitan...nde na naman nakapsok...mas alam pa ng mga fans ang mga problema eh...INUTIL na coaching staff and management!!!!! Sa ball movement pa lang ng tnt talagang walang wala ang Ginebra, alam na alam ng tnt ang gagawin nila whereas ang Ginerba walang ka play play kaya ayun, nanalo sana sila noon against RoS kung merong silang mga design plays during the dying second of a game at nasa kanila ang bola And please tell caguioa ....nde yun lambot ang problema....yun mga COACH nyo!!! Nagrant ka na sa kapwa mong players....except sa coach!!! Nde kami mga tanga!! What I don't like about MC47 is that tweet s'ya ng tweet when there are times na me fault din s'ya that contributes to their lost The management's decision turned out to be BAD: 1. Gabe Freeman has been measured a shade above 6'5" (the height limit for the next conference)2. In crucial game/s, a strong import (Howell et. al.) can impose his might and strength with a local match-up3. Freeman is talented and has the right attitude alright, but the team's cohesiveness was compromised Pwedeng pwede pala si Freeman sa 3rd, kasi kung iba pa ang kukunin nila baka magkaroon na naman sila ng problema sa paghanap ng maayos ayos na import. Iba na talaga ngayon, kung noon Ginebra ang nakapagdala ng mga magagaling na imports sa PBA gaya nila Hackett, Bates, Briggs, Queenan, Joe Ward, Gray, Chris King, etc. ngayon parang hirap silang makahanap ng maayos na import, ang maayos ayos lang na nakuha nila in the post-Jaworski era ay sina Ryan Fletcher, Torraye Braggs, Chris Alexander, Dave Noel at Vernon Macklin Yung endless rants natin as fans di naman pinapakinggan ng buong Ginebra.. Sorry guys but I just lost respect and interest with Ginebra. It's been years since i supported this team. Players, coaching staff and management do not care about the fans anymore. I just hope Caguioa gets traded or any of the 3 expansion teams avail the services of Jaworski. Wherever they go, i'll go. Sinabi mo pa sir, bingi ang management sa clamor ng fans, gone are the days na nagmamadali akong makauwi pag me laro ang Ginebra para lang mapanuod ko sa TV now iba na Inutil talaga. If only they can implement the defense of Rain or Shine and the offense and passing of TNT.Kayang kaya ng team gawin yun.Barangay has all the materials. Naiinggit nga yung ibang coach sa lineup. Kaya lang hindi ata alam ng coaching staff yung ganung sistema. Well, parang wala sa sarili ang laro ng team. parang ayaw na nila sa coaching staff. ALisin na rin yang Robert Non na yan. Dapat coach ng Ginebra ay ang mga gaya ni Chot Reyes o kaya Yeng Guiao eh aside from the incompetent coaches na napapansin natin, nakita ko din kagabi na wala na masyadong ginebra fans na nanonood. mas marami pang bakante na upuan kaysa sa nanonood. management should already be concerned about this and act fast. bihira na ngang sumigaw ng gi-ne-bra!! gi-ne-bra!!! o wala na kasing sisigaw...wala na yung 6th man ng ginebra. to ato and company, mahiya naman kayo...delicadeza na lang. tender your resignations. you guys can't even maximize all the talents that you have. si japeth binangko nung 2nd half nung RoS game...yung 4th overall pick nakaupo lang sa bangko...butas na nga yata yung shorts kakaupo. only #7 can bring out the best and fighting spirit of the players. Nakakawalang gana manuod ng live pag ganyan ang laro nila, fans would pay hard-earned money tapos ganun ang laro, noong 1st conference talagang madaming fans ang nanood pero nitong 2nd conference malaki ang ibinaba Edited April 24, 2014 by Agent_mulder Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Has the Ginebra coaching job been offered to Tim Cone understudy Jeff Cariaso?From: Snow BaduaApril 24, 2014, 06:01 pmhttp://contents.spin.ph/image/San-Mig-Coffee-DPeralta-042414.jpgJeff Cariaso played for Tim Cone during the glory years of the Alaska franchise and later became one of his deputies when the multit-titled coach moved to San Mig three years ago.Dante PeraltaWILL Jeff Cariaso be the next coach of Barangay Ginebra? Possibly, says a source. Word has reached Spin.ph on Thursday that Cariaso, a former player of multi-titled Tim Cone and now his chief understudy at San Mig, has been offered the Ginebra coaching job after the team's disappointing finish in the PBA Commissioner's Cup under Juno Sauler and Ato Agustin. According to the source, the offer was made to Cariaso on Wednesday and negotiations are underway for his move to Ginebra from sister team San Mig. "Nag-usap na sila kahapon. Negosasyon pa lang 'yan, pero mukhang siya talaga ang ina-eye," said the source. "Sa ngayon, wala pang formal deal kasi nag-uusap pa sa kontrata and all." Spin.ph tried to contact the 15-year PBA veteran, but he has yet to respond to calls and text messages. Team insiders said Cariaso already has the blessings of Cone, who coached the Fil-American guard during the glory years of the Alaska franchise and later took him in as one of his deputies when he moved to San Mig three years ago. The news came at a time when Ginebra fans are salivating over the prospect of PBA legend Robert Jaworski returning to a team he helped turn into the most popular in the league behind the never-say-die spirit his teams personified in the eighties and early nineties. Sources said the Ginebra offer to Jaworski has been on the table for a while now but there has been no movement in the negotiations since. Another source said Jaworski, 68, is still in the US. As it is, Sauler, who acted as 'active assistant' during Ginebra's failed campaign in the Commissioner's Cup, is already out of the running since he is set to focus on De La Salle's varsity squad, which he led to a UAAP championship last season. If ever, it would be no surprise that the next Ginebra coach would come from San Mig, clearly the most successful among the three teams under the SMC umbrella. While San Mig has won the last two league championships, Ginebra's title drought has now spanned six years while San Miguel has not won a title since the 2009 First Conference. Quote Link to comment
numina Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 way to go.... offer it to another experience-less protege.... no offense meant but jeff does not even have a uaap head coaching experience 1 Quote Link to comment
junix Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Has the Ginebra coaching job been offered to Tim Cone understudy Jeff Cariaso?From: Snow BaduaApril 24, 2014, 06:01 pmhttp://contents.spin.ph/image/San-Mig-Coffee-DPeralta-042414.jpgJeff Cariaso played for Tim Cone during the glory years of the Alaska franchise and later became one of his deputies when the multit-titled coach moved to San Mig three years ago.Dante PeraltaWILL Jeff Cariaso be the next coach of Barangay Ginebra? Possibly, says a source. Word has reached Spin.ph on Thursday that Cariaso, a former player of multi-titled Tim Cone and now his chief understudy at San Mig, has been offered the Ginebra coaching job after the team's disappointing finish in the PBA Commissioner's Cup under Juno Sauler and Ato Agustin. According to the source, the offer was made to Cariaso on Wednesday and negotiations are underway for his move to Ginebra from sister team San Mig. "Nag-usap na sila kahapon. Negosasyon pa lang 'yan, pero mukhang siya talaga ang ina-eye," said the source. "Sa ngayon, wala pang formal deal kasi nag-uusap pa sa kontrata and all." Spin.ph tried to contact the 15-year PBA veteran, but he has yet to respond to calls and text messages. Team insiders said Cariaso already has the blessings of Cone, who coached the Fil-American guard during the glory years of the Alaska franchise and later took him in as one of his deputies when he moved to San Mig three years ago. The news came at a time when Ginebra fans are salivating over the prospect of PBA legend Robert Jaworski returning to a team he helped turn into the most popular in the league behind the never-say-die spirit his teams personified in the eighties and early nineties. Sources said the Ginebra offer to Jaworski has been on the table for a while now but there has been no movement in the negotiations since. Another source said Jaworski, 68, is still in the US. As it is, Sauler, who acted as 'active assistant' during Ginebra's failed campaign in the Commissioner's Cup, is already out of the running since he is set to focus on De La Salle's varsity squad, which he led to a UAAP championship last season. If ever, it would be no surprise that the next Ginebra coach would come from San Mig, clearly the most successful among the three teams under the SMC umbrella. While San Mig has won the last two league championships, Ginebra's title drought has now spanned six years while San Miguel has not won a title since the 2009 First Conference. ito lang ang masasabi ko diyan kung matutuloy si cariaso sa ginebra...PATAY!!! DISGRASYA!!! ano ba itong pinag-gagawa ng management sa team? i have nothing against cariaso as a player...but head coach of ginebra? Quote Link to comment
super123 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 gulo na naman to kung si cariaso ang ipinalit... no offense to jeff... i think alfrancis is better if di rin lang maibabalik si jawo 1 Quote Link to comment
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