munchkins and donuts Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Taha to Ginebra for Mike Cortez. not bad. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Franz Pumaren will finally get the player on top of his wish list — veteran point guard Mike Cortez. Barangy Ginebra San Miguel has closed a deal to send the ‘Cool Cat’ to the Air 21 Express, reuniting him with his former college coach, in return for promising rookie big man Yousef Taha. An unimpeachable source privy to the discussions told InterAKTV that the deal is “already done.” “Taha for Cortez will push through,” said the source, who requested anonymity. “It’s already done. We had another option, but it didn’t materialize, so we pushed through with this.” Ginebra and Air 21 settled the one-on-one deal instead of an earlier proposed transaction that also involved Petron, which was supposedly to send Denok Miranda to Ginebra. Instead, the Gin Kings will have another additional frontliner who can boost the team’s depleted lineup. Ginebra lost forward Dylan Ababou to an ACL injury for six to eight months, while Allein Maliksi, Kerby Raymundo, and Jayjay Helterbrand have also been in sick bay. Raymundo’s absence left Billy Mamaril as the only legitimate center in the team’s lineup. Meanwhile, Cortez has long been on the radar of Pumaren, who coached the veteran guard in La Salle. Pumaren couldn’t be reached for comment at this time, but the Air 21 coach has been very vocal about his desire to be reunited with his former star guard to help shore up the backcourt of the Express. Barangay Ginebra San Miguel is in the middle of a tough slump and everyone is looking for answers. Maybe these guys can help? http://cms.interaksyon.com/interaktv/assets/2012/11/ginebra-pba-meme.jpg Quote Link to comment
brun0magtangol Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 hmmmm, nasagot na kaya problema... problem is Post threat... not necessary a dominant one. pero a post player.... hmm i think di pa din solid solution problem is rebounds daw...? pero i think the reason we cant get rebounds is 1, we commit TO first b4 even making a shot.... 2; most shots mades r from mid and long range because we don't have a post player creating shots in the paint, hence we dont have peeps inside the shaded lane positioned for rebounds.. now, with the departure of Cortez.. only LA is our legit point on hand, JJ is injured as we all know ...that's a new problem they have to address and finally... SIot is still calling the shots.... :lol: Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 they traded cortez for a second round pick center http://www.pbaddicts.net/t24354-ginebra-agrees-to-send-cortez-to-air21-for-taha#540874 Quote Link to comment
junix Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Barangay Ginebra San Miguel is in the middle of a tough slump and everyone is looking for answers. Maybe these guys can help? http://cms.interaksyon.com/interaktv/assets/2012/11/ginebra-pba-meme.jpg pwedeng-pwede Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 the players isn't responding to siot as i observed. so trading players will not be solution IMHO. unless i'm proven wrong. Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Barangay Ginebra San Miguel is in the middle of a tough slump and everyone is looking for answers. Maybe these guys can help? http://cms.interaksyon.com/interaktv/assets/2012/11/ginebra-pba-meme.jpg kindly include this one..isusuot na lang yung jersey o! http://www.abante-tonite.com/issue/june3012/images/sports2.jpg Quote Link to comment
junix Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 the players isn't responding to siot as i observed. so trading players will not be solution IMHO. unless i'm proven wrong. that's what i thought, too. it really begins with the coach. just take powerade for example. even with a ragtag team backstopped by david, casio and lassiter, perasol and powerade did an impressive job last season. why's this so? perasol was able to maximize the talents that he had...every player that was fielded in responded. Quote Link to comment
pajac24 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 suggestion: trade cortez for taha, air 21 needs a point guard, their coach wished for cortez and they have a lot of centers, isip, sena and the return of rob reyes makes them formidable at that spot, while we have a slew of guards we need a center that can rebound and can defend the paint. Taha's plays emboldens the spirit of a ginebra player, like I said this is merely a suggestion thanks Wow! I suggested this trade and it materialized hopefully our problem in the shaded lane now will be solved with the addition of taha http://www.pbaddicts.net/t24350-mike-cortez-to-air21-yousef-taha-to-ginebra-trade-sealed Quote Link to comment
pajac24 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 hmmmm, nasagot na kaya problema... problem is Post threat... not necessary a dominant one. pero a post player.... hmm i think di pa din solid solution problem is rebounds daw...? pero i think the reason we cant get rebounds is 1, we commit TO first b4 even making a shot.... 2; most shots mades r from mid and long range because we don't have a post player creating shots in the paint, hence we dont have peeps inside the shaded lane positioned for rebounds.. now, with the departure of Cortez.. only LA is our legit point on hand, JJ is injured as we all know ...that's a new problem they have to address and finally... SIot is still calling the shots.... :lol: I watched ginebra live last sunday and we were beaten at the rebounding department with the towering presence of Reavis 6'8, De Ocampo 6'9, Pingris 6'7 and Devance 6'7, Hatfield, Mamaril and Ellis struggled defensively, and because of the injury to raymundo we relied heavily on the shooters, weak inside presence was evident, With the trade, Taha would man the shaded lane, can post up and because of his body can give a good pick and roll, For me that is a good trade because both teams addressed their needs Quote Link to comment
brun0magtangol Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 yep, all of 5 L's we lost the rebounding dept. and we also won in the number of TO's... they got Big and lost a PG who they also need.. they again tinker with the line-up and added another Rookie... a "nice job" of the Coaching staff in developing the already "cohesive" bgk... hmm letting go of Yancy, Reavis, and Evill and now getting a rookie though promising is still a rookie...maybe magagamit siya ng mabuti ng coaching staff, magaling sila dito e...pagalingin ang mga rookie... hirap lang talaga siguro sila sa mga vets na tested na at familiar sa pro ball... , ah good luck sa Team on Friday... hope mag ka FLU si siot...malamig na e... mahamugan ang hairless niyang tuk-tuk Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 though i am an advocate of trading players, i think ginebra got the raw end of the deal..... The talent of cortez is not comparable to taha at this point.... Hoping this turns out for the best Quote Link to comment
junix Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 ang tanong ngayon kung gagamitin ni kalbo si taha na rookie. ang dami nang nawalang big men ang ginebra dahil di ginagamit...nung nakalipat at nabigyan ng pagkakataon na magpakitang gilas, umasenso. typical examples?...yancy, reavis, kramer, villanueva. i still believe it starts with the coach. Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 pag natalo pa tayo sa global port ewan ko na lang Quote Link to comment
fatchubs Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 though i am an advocate of trading players, i think ginebra got the raw end of the deal..... The talent of cortez is not comparable to taha at this point.... Hoping this turns out for the best Taha is ok but it seems Reyes is better. Sayang hindi siya ang kinuha o naibigay. I think Taha + a 2nd round pick would for Cortez would be the "fair value" Quote Link to comment
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