Hari ng Spakol Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Tama ka pre....sakin...kahit anong trade value natitira kay mercado...igrab na sana nila...kesa maiwan yan satin...like JJ and caguioa alang trade value na...ang difference lang kay mercado..ala pa cyang nacocontribute sa team...kaya alang sentimental value hehehe... Siguro yun mga umayaw kay mercado tuwang tuwa hehehe...samantalang yun mga ipinamigay natin...gumagaling...parang tayo lumalabas na dehado sa mga trades ah hahahaha Naalala ko pa lagi...yun rason ni frankie lim kung bakit kinuha nya si mercado...better defender daw...grrr... Bad trip ako kay Frankie Lim dito ng na trade nya si Joseph Yeo kay Mercado, nawalan tuloy lalo ng Shooter ang Gins. Tapos si Billy Mamaril naman na trade para kay Marcelo, na wala naman ginawa kung errors lang at offensive foul. sana siya na lang ulit ang na trade kapalit ni Jervy Cruz instead of Rodney Brondial. Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Bad trip ako kay Frankie Lim dito ng na trade nya si Joseph Yeo kay Mercado, nawalan tuloy lalo ng Shooter ang Gins. Tapos si Billy Mamaril naman na trade para kay Marcelo, na wala naman ginawa kung errors lang at offensive foul. sana siya na lang ulit ang na trade kapalit ni Jervy Cruz instead of Rodney Brondial. Isa yan sa pinanghihinayangan ko ng malaki na nawala - kahit may edad na, di hamak na sobrang effective pa - si Billy Mam'sHow about Mercado for Aldrech Ramos or KG Canaleta ng Mahindra? I think fair trade din ito. Nico Salva should stop playing "big". He's accurate sa perimeter, more like a Tony Dela Cruz. Dapat irefine nya yung laro nya as a 2-3 rather than 3-4. Kaya nga nila kinuha si Jervy Cruz. Correct. Tim Cone knows Salva's value so hindi dapat ma threaten si Salva sa pagpasok ni Jervy. Salva will become Ellis main Backup. CTC can make JDV SG with this lineup: 2nd Unit:PG: Mercado/ThompsonSG: JDV (lots of mismatches)SF: SalvaPF: CruzC: Marcelo (ito ang butas ng lineup na to) This is still a tall line up with big men shooters who can spread the floor Edited November 20, 2015 by daphne loves derby Quote Link to comment
bughaw1 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Ampaw yang marcelo. Baka kahit sa present day na wilmer ong eh mahirapan sya.lokoloko tong si frankie lim.....binaboy ang lineup ng ginebra. Quote Link to comment
the riddick Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 RSA put a trust in him (frankie lim) to make a ginebra line up a competitive team, pero tama ka nga, binaboy lang nya ang line up ng Ginebra. Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Nice to be back after a long hiatus Nico Salva should stop playing "big". He's accurate sa perimeter, more like a Tony Dela Cruz. Dapat irefine nya yung laro nya as a 2-3 rather than 3-4. Kaya nga nila kinuha si Jervy Cruz. Salva another overrated player out of ADMU kagaya din ni Al-Husseini, ok ang coach ng GSM kaso me ilang players na nakuha na wala dapat sa line-up..... Bad trip ako kay Frankie Lim dito ng na trade nya si Joseph Yeo kay Mercado, nawalan tuloy lalo ng Shooter ang Gins. Tapos si Billy Mamaril naman na trade para kay Marcelo, na wala naman ginawa kung errors lang at offensive foul. sana siya na lang ulit ang na trade kapalit ni Jervy Cruz instead of Rodney Brondial. Madami naman talagang nasayang na players ang GSM, gaya nga nila Mamaril at Willy Wilson, mga masisipag na 'di pa takot sa banggaan sa ilalim. Si Yeo sinayang din, mas buo ang loob noon kesa kina Mercado at Salva pero na-trade din Isa yan sa pinanghihinayangan ko ng malaki na nawala - kahit may edad na, di hamak na sobrang effective pa - si Billy Mam'sHow about Mercado for Aldrech Ramos or KG Canaleta ng Mahindra? I think fair trade din ito. Correct. Tim Cone knows Salva's value so hindi dapat ma threaten si Salva sa pagpasok ni Jervy. Salva will become Ellis main Backup. CTC can make JDV SG with this lineup: 2nd Unit:PG: Mercado/ThompsonSG: JDV (lots of mismatches)SF: SalvaPF: CruzC: Marcelo (ito ang butas ng lineup na to) This is still a tall line up with big men shooters who can spread the floor Ampaw yang marcelo. Baka kahit sa present day na wilmer ong eh mahirapan sya.lokoloko tong si frankie lim.....binaboy ang lineup ng ginebra. Marcelo? Mas iniintindi pa n'yan ang buhok n'ya kesa sa maglaro ng maayos, ke lalamon ng siko ke Ong, Cheng o Locsin 'yan kung inabot n'ya mga 'yun Quote Link to comment
vienvenido Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 hahaha.. Namiss ko si Ong at Cheng.. SImple role lang.. magrebound.. at depensa.. bonus na kung pumuntos sila.... Need ng ginebra ung makikipagbasagan ng itlog at ng muka... Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Sometimes, we need to trust the coaches.... kanya kanyang philosophy at principle yan sa coaching... nataon siguro na hindi kailangan ni fl si yeo sa gins at mas kailangan nya si sol sa systema na gusto nyang implement sa ginebra (although ayoko sa trade na yun) pati na si dave sa trade ke billy... ngayon, ibang systema naman... triangle ( not a fan of this and maybe will not like this until i see mediocre talents winning 6 championships with it)... this system needs shooters to free up the pivot (which is basic in any system)... Anyway, i think cone is doing the right thing in getting the players he wants... what i believe lacking right now are: 1. Consistent shooters 2. Reliable go to guys after japeth and slaughter (remember jolas and cabahug during alvin and jerry's time)3. Pwede ring reliable back up 4 or 54. Depensa sa mid range hanggang 3 point line It will not hurt if LA, Mark and Ellis will play their part consistently Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Sometimes, we need to trust the coaches.... kanya kanyang philosophy at principle yan sa coaching... nataon siguro na hindi kailangan ni fl si yeo sa gins at mas kailangan nya si sol sa systema na gusto nyang implement sa ginebra (although ayoko sa trade na yun) pati na si dave sa trade ke billy... ngayon, ibang systema naman... triangle ( not a fan of this and maybe will not like this until i see mediocre talents winning 6 championships with it)... this system needs shooters to free up the pivot (which is basic in any system)... Anyway, i think cone is doing the right thing in getting the players he wants... what i believe lacking right now are:1. Consistent shooters 2. Reliable go to guys after japeth and slaughter (remember jolas and cabahug during alvin and jerry's time)3. Pwede ring reliable back up 4 or 54. Depensa sa mid range hanggang 3 point lineIt will not hurt if LA, Mark and Ellis will play their part consistentlyAng tanong....anong role ba ni mark for him to play consistently? Loaded question yan...isa lang ang tamang sagot hehe Edited November 20, 2015 by azraelmd Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Ang tanong....anong role ba ni mark for him to play consistently? Loaded question yan...isa lang ang tamang sagot hehe Well, in fairness to him, shutting down Gary David last game (0 pts in the second quarter) makes me feel na unti unti na syang nagigising sa katotohanang hindi na sya ang focal point on offense. Yung keyword nga lang, "unti unti". Until he follows in the steps of a Gabe Norwood or a Danny Ildefonso na role player rather than main man, we'll be frowning a lot more these upcoming days. With JJ, well, paminsan minsan na lang naman ilaro yung mama. Pagbigyan na natin - last season na rin naman. The question of the week for me, would be: what to do with Marcelo and Mercado? Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Ang tanong....anong role ba ni mark for him to play consistently? Loaded question yan...isa lang ang tamang sagot heheWell para sa akin, mark still has 2 years left in him... 2 years na lesser role but remember people will still cover him... bigyan ng bola yan at hinayaang libre i am sure papasok tira nyan... although ngayon he just commands single coverage, he can still burn defenders basta me proper play sa kanya... sabi nga nila (although hindi ako naniniwala) the triangle is an equal opportunity offense (parang communista lang hehehe)...he should make those 3s and medium jumpers consistently sa kick outs nina greg... run if there is an opportunity pero leave it mainly ke la and ellis and japeth...penetrate drop off sa bigs... give and go... etc...btw i am not a caguioa fan i just feel the guy has some gas left...Ang pinagtatakahan ko si la...dapat sya ang nag bo bloom ngayon dahil sanay na sya ke cone pero parang mediocre ang performance nya... Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 http://www.businessinsider.com/nba-cant-figure-out-warriors-small-ball-2015-11 Small ball... ginebra under jong and siot usually played this w menk and hatfield cutting in the middle and yielded 4 championships.... well those days were long gone... the main weapon right now are the twin towers... i hope before greg reaches 30, he had won a grand slam hehehehe Quote Link to comment
bughaw1 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 hahaha.. Namiss ko si Ong at Cheng.. SImple role lang.. magrebound.. at depensa.. bonus na kung pumuntos sila.... Need ng ginebra ung makikipagbasagan ng itlog at ng muka...Guys like gilbert bulawan,mark yee and to some extent eh isang jayr taganas. Mga ganitong player ang pang ginebra. Quote Link to comment
Boss James Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Makuha lang nila si RR Garcia, JC Intal at isa pang reliable na shooter. Ok na yung Ginebra eh. Mejo mahihirapan lang talaga sila pakawalan sila Caguia dahil wala ng kukuhang team sa kanila. hehehe Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 And let's face the truth. Ginebra will never dare make an attempt to trade Caguioa and Helterbrand. Or even LA for that matter. At least, as long as Chua is there. Quote Link to comment
vienvenido Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 And let's face the truth. Ginebra will never dare make an attempt to trade Caguioa and Helterbrand. Or even LA for that matter. At least, as long as Chua is there.Sobrang deep rooted b relasyn ni alchua s 3? Sna kaht 50% lang ng time na ipasok si JJ ay pumutok sya. Oks na un e. Quote Link to comment
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