avi_sala Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Pasensya na hindi ko na ma-edit yung post ko. Quote Link to comment
fatchubs Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Meron pa ding mga nanghihinayang na mga alleged fans ng Ginebra online sa 'di pagkuha kay chris tiu, mga totoong fans ba ng Ginebra ang mga 'yun o ano?  Ako i think hindi dapat panghinayangan ang hindi pagkuha kay Tiu kung needs ang batayan. No disrespect to Chris Tiu, alam naman natin ang kalibre niya at ano ang kaya niyang gawin ... however, if it boils down to Chris Ellis and Chris Tiu I'll prefer the former. IMHO mas kailangan ng Gins ang big man kaysa guard. Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) Ako i think hindi dapat panghinayangan ang hindi pagkuha kay Tiu kung needs ang batayan. No disrespect to Chris Tiu, alam naman natin ang kalibre niya at ano ang kaya niyang gawin ... however, if it boils down to Chris Ellis and Chris Tiu I'll prefer the former. IMHO mas kailangan ng Gins ang big man kaysa guard.  Ako talagang panay ang post ko sa FB page ng PBA during draft proceedings at talagang kontra ako sa pag draft ke tiu (though management prerogative 'yun), kaya naman ang laking tuwa ko noong si Ellis at Jensen ang kinuha along with some other guards. Tiu eat your heart out, sina Canada, Zamar, Elliot at Buensuceso na-draft ng Ginebra ikaw HINDI! , Sa FB ilang minutes lang late eh, sa tv ilang oras after the draft which starts at 3 p.m. before pa nila nai-telecast.. Edited August 24, 2012 by Agent_mulder Quote Link to comment
fatchubs Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Ako talagang panay ang post ko sa FB page ng PBA during draft proceedings at talagang kontra ako sa pag draft ke tiu (though management prerogative 'yun), kaya naman ang laking tuwa ko noong si Ellis at Jensen ang kinuha along with some other guards. Tiu eat your heart out, sina Canada, Zamar, Elliot at Buensuceso na-draft ng Ginebra ikaw HINDI! , Sa FB ilang minutes lang late eh, sa tv ilang oras after the draft which starts at 3 p.m. before pa nila nai-telecast.. Madaling makakuha ng guards (unless we're talking about a "special" player na pwede maging franchise player ... ang mahirap ay yun bigs na athletic who can play multiple positions. That can create more mismatch. Who knows if Ginebra actually own the 7th pick instead of the 8th they would have drafted Tiu to improve on thieir guard rotation. Alam naman natin na si JJ baga bigla magising na lang at gusto na mag retire. Si Cortez is also playing under a one year contract na lang.  As long as the Air 21 pick ends up being among the top three for next year, you are looking at Slaughter, Pringle or Banchero. Wala ka nang itulak kabigin diyan sa tatlo. Any of them will surely fill one of the needs of Ginebra for the future. Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Madaling makakuha ng guards (unless we're talking about a "special" player na pwede maging franchise player ... ang mahirap ay yun bigs na athletic who can play multiple positions. That can create more mismatch. Who knows if Ginebra actually own the 7th pick instead of the 8th they would have drafted Tiu to improve on thieir guard rotation. Alam naman natin na si JJ baga bigla magising na lang at gusto na mag retire. Si Cortez is also playing under a one year contract na lang.  As long as the Air 21 pick ends up being among the top three for next year, you are looking at Slaughter, Pringle or Banchero. Wala ka nang itulak kabigin diyan sa tatlo. Any of them will surely fill one of the needs of Ginebra for the future. A fews days before the draft sinabi na ni Siot na "interesado" sila ke tiu, then come draft day 'di nila kinuha, reverse psychology and ginamit, kasi kung sinabi n'ya na interesado sila ke Ellis o Jensen malamang nakuha na 'yung 1 sa 2, loaded sa guard ang Ginebra kaya 'di nila kailangan si tiu, mukhang mas ok pa nga 'yung Buensuseco kesa sa kanya at sana nga mabigyan ng contract, si Pido Jarencio nga na coach n'ya sa PBA D-League bilib na bilib sa kanya Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 A fews days before the draft sinabi na ni Siot na "interesado" sila ke tiu, then come draft day 'di nila kinuha, reverse psychology and ginamit, kasi kung sinabi n'ya na interesado sila ke Ellis o Jensen malamang nakuha na 'yung 1 sa 2, loaded sa guard ang Ginebra kaya 'di nila kailangan si tiu, mukhang mas ok pa nga 'yung Buensuseco kesa sa kanya at sana nga mabigyan ng contract, si Pido Jarencio nga na coach n'ya sa PBA D-League bilib na bilib sa kanya i definitely agree with this one. Had other teams known na interesado ang BGK kay Ellis, malamang kinuha na ng Meralco or kung sinumang team yan. Tiu is overrated - parang nung time lang yan na naging number one pick si Paolo Mendoza sa Sta. Lucia. Consistent player, oo. Pero not THAT impressive compared to his Ateneo predecessors like Tenorio and Racela, to name a few. Ang kulang na lang sa scenario na ito is the final word if mapapalitan ba si Siot as coach and kung aalisin na ba si Menk sa lineup. Quote Link to comment
brun0magtangol Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 i definitely agree with this one. Had other teams known na interesado ang BGK kay Ellis, malamang kinuha na ng Meralco or kung sinumang team yan. Tiu is overrated - parang nung time lang yan na naging number one pick si Paolo Mendoza sa Sta. Lucia. Consistent player, oo. Pero not THAT impressive compared to his Ateneo predecessors like Tenorio and Racela, to name a few. Ang kulang na lang sa scenario na ito is the final word if mapapalitan ba si Siot as coach and kung aalisin na ba si Menk sa lineup.  Ginebra planning to keep Eric Menk Quote Link to comment
rickyfred Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Kahit sino mapunta sa Ginebra suportahan na lang, basta manalo at matalo Ginebra pa din, masaya na ako napapanood ko ang paborito natin team, cyempre pag talo malungkot! Quote Link to comment
buwitre1781 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 i definitely agree with this one. Had other teams known na interesado ang BGK kay Ellis, malamang kinuha na ng Meralco or kung sinumang team yan. Tiu is overrated - parang nung time lang yan na naging number one pick si Paolo Mendoza sa Sta. Lucia. Consistent player, oo. Pero not THAT impressive compared to his Ateneo predecessors like Tenorio and Racela, to name a few. Ang kulang na lang sa scenario na ito is the final word if mapapalitan ba si Siot as coach and kung aalisin na ba si Menk sa lineup. brod ang 6th pick ng ginebra ay between the 2 chris's. interested talaga kasi ang meralco kay cliff hodge kaya no way na kukunin nila si ellis, considering na mas mataas naman talaga ang value ni hodge kesa kay ellis. si mallari, three days before the draft alam ng kukuhanin ng petron. surprise ay ung kay aldrech (dahil pwede ng kuhanin ng barako either ung 2 chris) pero dahil ang barako ay nagdraft lang para magtrade, si aldrech nga ang kinuha nila. alang psychology na ginamit si siot. he was just asked kung interested ba sila kay tiu at sinagot niya lang na oo.. dahil kung hindi kinuha ng ROS si tiu malamang kinuha na siya ng ginebra. pero mas ok ngang sa ROS si tiu kasi hindi siya bagay sa sistema ng gin kings. Quote Link to comment
fr0st06 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 hindi pa ba papalitan coach ng ginebra? hehe Quote Link to comment
<Prince> Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Kahit sino mapunta sa Ginebra suportahan na lang, basta manalo at matalo Ginebra pa din, masaya na ako napapanood ko ang paborito natin team, cyempre pag talo malungkot! Â I agree, let's just support our fave team, and hopefully mag champion na sila this coming season... Quote Link to comment
SPORTS 123 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Sana nga maka Top 2 tayo sa eliminations this coming conference. Quote Link to comment
rickyfred Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Go Ginebra! Manalo Matalo Ginebra pa din! Quote Link to comment
vexy9 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 sana nga magchampion this All-Filipino ang BGK. Quote Link to comment
rickyfred Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Sana makuha na natin yung Star Poinguard na nasa trade rumor... Quote Link to comment
mr_kindred23 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 si siot parin ba ang coach? Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) brod ang 6th pick ng ginebra ay between the 2 chris's. interested talaga kasi ang meralco kay cliff hodge kaya no way na kukunin nila si ellis, considering na mas mataas naman talaga ang value ni hodge kesa kay ellis. si mallari, three days before the draft alam ng kukuhanin ng petron. surprise ay ung kay aldrech (dahil pwede ng kuhanin ng barako either ung 2 chris) pero dahil ang barako ay nagdraft lang para magtrade, si aldrech nga ang kinuha nila. alang psychology na ginamit si siot. he was just asked kung interested ba sila kay tiu at sinagot niya lang na oo.. dahil kung hindi kinuha ng ROS si tiu malamang kinuha na siya ng ginebra. pero mas ok ngang sa ROS si tiu kasi hindi siya bagay sa sistema ng gin kings. True enough. Pero to point out a correction in your statement, the 6th and the 8th pick ay sa BGK. Had they not gotten Tiu kahit na available pa sya sa 6th pick, mas lalong hindi nila makukuha yun sa 8th. Talagang hindi lang talaga interesado ang management kay Tiu. Besides, if we're gonna base it on the team's needs, hindi kailangan ng BGK si Tiu, mas kailangan nila ng big men. And I think, this opinion of Mico Halili says everything about not picking Chris Tiu. The Final Score: Choosing between Chris Tiu and Chris Ellis Edited August 27, 2012 by Kyoji_Kagami Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 brod ang 6th pick ng ginebra ay between the 2 chris's. interested talaga kasi ang meralco kay cliff hodge kaya no way na kukunin nila si ellis, considering na mas mataas naman talaga ang value ni hodge kesa kay ellis. si mallari, three days before the draft alam ng kukuhanin ng petron. surprise ay ung kay aldrech (dahil pwede ng kuhanin ng barako either ung 2 chris) pero dahil ang barako ay nagdraft lang para magtrade, si aldrech nga ang kinuha nila. alang psychology na ginamit si siot. he was just asked kung interested ba sila kay tiu at sinagot niya lang na oo.. dahil kung hindi kinuha ng ROS si tiu malamang kinuha na siya ng ginebra. pero mas ok ngang sa ROS si tiu kasi hindi siya bagay sa sistema ng gin kings. Kung interesado sila ke Tiu sana kinuha na nila agad sa 6th pick pa lang bro, but then again Chris Ellis is just too good to be passed upon in favor of Tiu. Quote Link to comment
rickyfred Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Tama lang yung ginawa ng Ginebra sa pagpili kay Chris Ellis mas need siya ng Ginebra, sa point guard position kasi daming pwede makuha thru trades, eh si Ellis mahihipan ka na makakuha ng ganyan na player very athletic can score and rebounds consistently. Quote Link to comment
rickyfred Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Tagal ng Sept.30...mis ko na yung paborito nating team! Ginebra San Miguel! Quote Link to comment
buwitre1781 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 True enough. Pero to point out a correction in your statement, the 6th and the 8th pick ay sa BGK. Had they not gotten Tiu kahit na available pa sya sa 6th pick, mas lalong hindi nila makukuha yun sa 8th. Talagang hindi lang talaga interesado ang management kay Tiu. Besides, if we're gonna base it on the team's needs, hindi kailangan ng BGK si Tiu, mas kailangan nila ng big men. And I think, this opinion of Mico Halili says everything about not picking Chris Tiu. The Final Score: Choosing between Chris Tiu and Chris Ellis  hindi ko naman sinabing they are bent on picking tiu. kasi nga why would they need a guard eh overloaded na sila sa guards. ang sinabi ko lang is natanong kasi si tanquincen tyungkol kay tiu so sinagot niya na gusto niya si tiu. sa mga mock drafts ellis and jensen talaga ang picks ng ginebra but should ros pass on tiu and stick on its original plan of trading the 7th pick baka ung 2 chris ang first draft ng Ginebra. Pero sobrang palpak ng draft choices nila on the succeeding round security agency na naman sila sa dami ng guards na kinhua nila. On another topic may narinig akong mga kwento na matutuloy din ang paglipat ni washington sa bgk, common knowledge na ang petron ang talagang may gusto sa draft pick ng air 21 next season (plano ata nila ang twin tower ni junemar at greg). so baka magkaroon ng trade next year. Quote Link to comment
buwitre1781 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Sana makuha na natin yung Star Poinguard na nasa trade rumor...  kung si tenorio ang tinutukoy mo, malabo na yang mangyari. dahil sinara ng alaska management ang trade proposals ng smc at mvp groups. mas lalo pa ngaung tumaas ang value ni la dahil sa gilas. Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 kung si tenorio ang tinutukoy mo, malabo na yang mangyari. dahil sinara ng alaska management ang trade proposals ng smc at mvp groups. mas lalo pa ngaung tumaas ang value ni la dahil sa gilas. Yung star pointguard sa trade rumors is no other than JV Casio. May nilulutong trade exchanging Casio to BGK, sending Willie Wilson and Mike Cortez to Global Port. Hndi ko lang sure kung cnu pa kasama ni Casio going to BGK. kung si tenorio ang tinutukoy mo, malabo na yang mangyari. dahil sinara ng alaska management ang trade proposals ng smc at mvp groups. mas lalo pa ngaung tumaas ang value ni la dahil sa gilas. Yung star pointguard sa trade rumors is no other than JV Casio. May nilulutong trade exchanging Casio to BGK, sending Willie Wilson and Mike Cortez to Global Port. Hndi ko lang sure kung cnu pa kasama ni Casio going to BGK. Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 hindi ko naman sinabing they are bent on picking tiu. kasi nga why would they need a guard eh overloaded na sila sa guards. ang sinabi ko lang is natanong kasi si tanquincen tyungkol kay tiu so sinagot niya na gusto niya si tiu. sa mga mock drafts ellis and jensen talaga ang picks ng ginebra but should ros pass on tiu and stick on its original plan of trading the 7th pick baka ung 2 chris ang first draft ng Ginebra. Pero sobrang palpak ng draft choices nila on the succeeding round security agency na naman sila sa dami ng guards na kinhua nila. On another topic may narinig akong mga kwento na matutuloy din ang paglipat ni washington sa bgk, common knowledge na ang petron ang talagang may gusto sa draft pick ng air 21 next season (plano ata nila ang twin tower ni junemar at greg). so baka magkaroon ng trade next year. Moot and academic na din na magtalo pa sa 'di pagkuha ng Ginebra ke tiu, nakuha na s'ya ng ros eh.  Yung star pointguard sa trade rumors is no other than JV Casio. May nilulutong trade exchanging Casio to BGK, sending Willie Wilson and Mike Cortez to Global Port. Hndi ko lang sure kung cnu pa kasama ni Casio going to BGK. Sayang si Willie Wilson if ever, hard-nose defender, me medium-range jumper, ok din sa rebounding.. Quote Link to comment
rickyfred Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Hirap talaga pakawalan ni W.Wilson kasi good defender siya, pero dalawa sigurado ang mababangko kapag hindi ka nagbawas sa pf positions Kerby,Maierhoffer,W.Wilson,Hatfield,Jensen. Kaya nga madalas bangko si Maierhoffer kasi naglalaro si Kerby,Hatfield,W.Wilson...tapos ngayon may Jensen pa tayo. Quote Link to comment
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