Barangay Ginebra Kings

[ray004]

 

Barangay Ginebra San Miguel is in the middle of a tough slump and everyone is looking for answers. Maybe these guys can help?

 

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kindly include this one..isusuot na lang yung jersey o!

 

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[junix]

the players isn't responding to siot as i observed. so trading players will not be solution IMHO. unless i'm proven wrong.

 

that's what i thought, too. it really begins with the coach. just take powerade for example. even with a ragtag team backstopped by david, casio and lassiter, perasol and powerade did an impressive job last season. why's this so? perasol was able to maximize the talents that he had...every player that was fielded in responded.

[pajac24]

suggestion: trade cortez for taha, air 21 needs a point guard, their coach wished for cortez and they have a lot of centers, isip, sena and the return of rob reyes makes them formidable at that spot, while we have a slew of guards we need a center that can rebound and can defend the paint. Taha's plays emboldens the spirit of a ginebra player, like I said this is merely a suggestion thanks

 

Wow! I suggested this trade and it materialized hopefully our problem in the shaded lane now will be solved with the addition of taha

 

http://www.pbaddicts.net/t24350-mike-cortez-to-air21-yousef-taha-to-ginebra-trade-sealed

 

 

[pajac24]

hmmmm, nasagot na kaya problema...

 

problem is Post threat... not necessary a dominant one. pero a post player.... hmm i think di pa din solid solution

 

problem is rebounds daw...? pero i think the reason we cant get rebounds is 1, we commit TO first b4 even making a shot.... 2; most shots mades r from mid and long range because we don't have a post player creating shots in the paint, hence we dont have peeps inside the shaded lane positioned for rebounds..

 

now, with the departure of Cortez.. only LA is our legit point on hand, JJ is injured as we all know ...that's a new problem they have to address

 

and finally... SIot is still calling the shots.... :lol:

 

I watched ginebra live last sunday and we were beaten at the rebounding department with the towering presence of Reavis 6'8, De Ocampo 6'9, Pingris 6'7 and Devance 6'7, Hatfield, Mamaril and Ellis struggled defensively, and because of the injury to raymundo we relied heavily on the shooters, weak inside presence was evident, With the trade, Taha would man the shaded lane, can post up and because of his body can give a good pick and roll, For me that is a good trade because both teams addressed their needs

[brun0magtangol]

yep, all of 5 L's we lost the rebounding dept. and we also won in the number of TO's...

 

they got Big and lost a PG who they also need.. they again tinker with the line-up and added another Rookie... a "nice job" of the Coaching staff in developing the already "cohesive" bgk...

 

hmm letting go of Yancy, Reavis, and Evill and now getting a rookie though promising is still a rookie...maybe magagamit siya ng mabuti ng coaching staff, magaling sila dito e...pagalingin ang mga rookie... hirap lang talaga siguro sila sa mga vets na tested na at familiar sa pro ball... ,

 

ah good luck sa Team on Friday... hope mag ka FLU si siot...malamig na e... mahamugan ang hairless niyang tuk-tuk

[*kalel*]

though i am an advocate of trading players, i think ginebra got the raw end of the deal..... The talent of cortez is not comparable to taha at this point.... Hoping this turns out for the best

[junix]

ang tanong ngayon kung gagamitin ni kalbo si taha na rookie. ang dami nang nawalang big men ang ginebra dahil di ginagamit...nung nakalipat at nabigyan ng pagkakataon na magpakitang gilas, umasenso. typical examples?...yancy, reavis, kramer, villanueva. i still believe it starts with the coach.

[ray004]

pag natalo pa tayo sa global port ewan ko na lang

[fatchubs]

though i am an advocate of trading players, i think ginebra got the raw end of the deal..... The talent of cortez is not comparable to taha at this point.... Hoping this turns out for the best

 

Taha is ok but it seems Reyes is better. Sayang hindi siya ang kinuha o naibigay.

 

I think Taha + a 2nd round pick would for Cortez would be the "fair value"

[*kalel*]

a21 had become more complete...son of a gun! hehehehe they have a good pg and a good big man!

[Agent_mulder]

I watched ginebra live last sunday and we were beaten at the rebounding department with the towering presence of Reavis 6'8, De Ocampo 6'9, Pingris 6'7 and Devance 6'7, Hatfield, Mamaril and Ellis struggled defensively, and because of the injury to raymundo we relied heavily on the shooters, weak inside presence was evident, With the trade, Taha would man the shaded lane, can post up and because of his body can give a good pick and roll, For me that is a good trade because both teams addressed their needs

 

Tapos ang ipapasok ni Siot against those aforementioned big men ng smc sina Hatfield at Wilson, kahit malakas sa rebounding 'yung dalawa dahil magaling sa pwestuhan sa ilalim mahihiarapan naman sila pag ganun kalalaki ang kalaban sa rebounds, dapat yata pataasan na ni Siot ang grado ng salamin n'ya dahil baka 'di n'ya nakikita kung gaano kalalalaki ang mga big men ng smc sa loob.

 

 

though i am an advocate of trading players, i think ginebra got the raw end of the deal..... The talent of cortez is not comparable to taha at this point.... Hoping this turns out for the best

 

Trading away player/s is not the solution, 'yung coach ang dapat nang palitan, kailangan pa ba natin mag petition sa Supreme Court para palitan ang head coach?

 

pag natalo pa tayo sa global port ewan ko na lang

 

Ayawan na pag natalo pa sila sir. Wala na nga akong gana manood dahil sa nakikita kong klase ng laro nila the past 5 games, me gustong laging bida dahil tingin n'ya sa kanya ipinasa ni Jawo ang torch kaya pag hawak ang bola tira kahit me libreng kakampi. Haven't you guys noticed it? 'Di magamit ni Ellis ang slamdunking prowess n'ya pano kahit libre na s'ya sa fastbreak 'di yata nakikita ng mga kakampi n'ya eh..

 

Taha is ok but it seems Reyes is better. Sayang hindi siya ang kinuha o naibigay.

 

I think Taha + a 2nd round pick would for Cortez would be the "fair value"

 

Cortez and Maliksi sana for Rob Reyes para sa akin..

Edited November 8, 2012 by Agent_mulder

[dfgvan]

magkakaroon muna ng tro pag nagfile tayo ng impeachment for siot...

[Kazekage.Gaara]

According to Snow Badua, lineup muna daw ang aasikasuhin bago yung support. In short, since tapos na yung trade, ang isusunod jan ay yung coach.

 

Anywho, there's no point in arguing now kung sino lugi sa trade between Cortez and Taha. Overloaded sa guards ang BGK, binawasan ng isa. Kulang sa big men, kumuha. Problem solved, as it seems, at least on paper.

 

Sabi nga ni @snowbadua sa twitter nya: Taktika ni Freddie Roach: Pounce on the body then hit the head. In Tagalog: TAHA muna bago BUHOK. Management now contemplating on coaching change but everything will start with a trade. So guys hold on. This is going to be a ride.

 

Sana magkatotoo...

[junix]

we'll probably see a rejuvenated ginebra squad once the coaching staff's been changed.

[fatchubs]

 

Cortez and Maliksi sana for Rob Reyes para sa akin..

 

Cortez for Reyes straight up is ok for me ...

 

I would not trade Maliksi. He and MC47 would be the team's rotation at the 2 guard