*kalel* Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 16-0 run nung 3rd quarter ng alaska... tapos na boxing dun pa lang Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 i never call for any coach's resignation but please the team need changes, new perspective, new direction.. if i'm siot, out of respect to the fans, i will stepdown. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 i never call for any coach's resignation but please the team need changes, new perspective, new direction.. if i'm siot, out of respect to the fans, i will stepdown. i'll have to agree on this. it is no longer the lineup that is the problem. it's time to make changes in the coaching staff (head coach down to his deputies). so, to coach siot, don't wait for the fans to leave ginebra. it might be too late! Quote Link to comment
friendly0603 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Don't think the fans would leave... Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 How about let Al Francis Chua take over? what do you think? Run and Gun system ala Tanduay! Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Ginebra is on a downward spiral, disorganized and offense, low morale dahil sa 3 straight loss prior to last nights game at me mga gustong laging bida. with the way alaska let Calvin Abueva do his thing, I could only stare in envy while Ginebra's rookies are getting limited touches sa bola.. Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 well players win games and coaches lose them....siot had won i think 2 championships with this team (their first back to back I think), i do not believe that he can't do that again....anyway i hope he can make adjustments management knows best Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Baka naman maghntay pa na mapunta sa bottom 2 bago kumilos ang management. Quote Link to comment
dfgvan Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 sana kung magsmall ball sila, dapat tumatakbo... kaso hindi eh... tenorio has never been known as a fastbreak type of player...kung maghalfcourt set dapat kahit papaano may post up threat kaso wala... trade tenorio/jensen/maliksi bale tree way trade ginebra gives tenorio/jensen/maliksi piermandani/manuel/vergara barakoalvarez/ballesteros/anthony ginebra - alvarez, manuel, ballesterosbarako - mandani, maliksi,tenoriopier - vergara, anthony, jensen watchathink??? pwede ba? Quote Link to comment
fatchubs Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 1351597170[/url]' post='8403136']sana kung magsmall ball sila, dapat tumatakbo... kaso hindi eh... tenorio has never been known as a fastbreak type of player...kung maghalfcourt set dapat kahit papaano may post up threat kaso wala... trade tenorio/jensen/maliksi bale tree way trade ginebra gives tenorio/jensen/maliksi piermandani/manuel/vergara barakoalvarez/ballesteros/anthony ginebra - alvarez, manuel, ballesterosbarako - mandani, maliksi,tenoriopier - vergara, anthony, jensen watchathink??? pwede ba? Masyado atang dehado ang GSM sa trade na ito. Tenorio can play fastball. And I don't think pg ang problema. Management had been wanting to get LA. Dati ang. Nababalita si Casio sana. Hindi na sana masama considering we may not have parted with Enrico and possibly the draft pick. Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 ako tingin ko dapat itrade si cortez Quote Link to comment
dfgvan Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) brod, by getting manuel and ballesteros hindi lugi ang gsm, cortez and caguioa can start at point and having any of those two big guys can assure them of a presence inside. Now when alvarez comes in and also have manuel inside then it's run and gun again. see this possible rotation. ballesterosmaierhoferellisababoucortez sub ballesteros - raymundomaierhofer - hatfieldellis - manuel subhatfield - elliscortez - caguioaababou - maierhofer sub ellis - wilsonor ellis - alvarezraymundo - mamaril Edited October 30, 2012 by dfgvan Quote Link to comment
fatchubs Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) you are essentially trading tenorio for lester alvarez ... advantage LA Tenorio Maliksi for Manuel ... both are former D-League MVP but we need Maliksi who plays the 2 guard rather than manuel who plays the 3 or 4. Maliksi for me is the main back-up of MC47. We are loaded there @ the 3 spot with Ababou, Ellis as well as Jensen and the likes of Rico, Rudy and Wilson playing the 4 spot Jensen for Ballesteros ...this is a toss-up but for me jensen has the advantage talent-wise. The only thing going for Jason is he has the height that our team sorely miss. If the need is for a Center, we can probably start by unloading our PG...to me it is really hard to find enough playing time for 3 star PG specially when Tenorio is expected to play 30 min a game. We can trade either JJ or Cortez and maybe put in espiritu. Actually, the team can opt to bring back Menk in lieu of Espiritu who I believe has really no chance of playing given the line-up they have now. Espiritu is last on the depth chart either in the SF or PF position. As such, bringing in Menk as the 3rd center behind Mama and Kerby makes more sense as a stop gap solution. The need for a big man can be filled in by the import in the coming conferences. Yes maybe we are a big man away to win a title but at this point the team is under performing and it is not because of the missing piece. We can compete with this line-up. its just that somehow they can't find their acts together. Is it a case of roles not clearly defined? Or could it be the coach simply couldn't desgn the right plays. Edited October 31, 2012 by fatchubs Quote Link to comment
dfgvan Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) the trade i was suggesting basically is that gsm would get manuel and ballesterostenorio would be the trade bait for that, this is not a position per position trade so you don't have to analyze it as a man for man trade... ababou can play the 2 position as what he did for ust let us see what the lineup would be: Pos.....NameC.......Mamaril, BillyPG......Alvarez, LesterF.......Maierhofer, RicoG.......Cortez, MikeG.......Helterbrand, Jayjay ©F/C.....Manuel, Vic ®F/C.....Raymundo, KerbyF.......Espiritu, ElmerF.......Wilson, WillyC.......Ballesteros, JensenG/F.....Ababou, DylanF.......Ellis, Chris ®SG......Caguioa, MarkPF......Hatfield, Rudy pg - cortez, jj, alvarez, maybe caguioasg - cortez, caguioa, ababou, jjsf - ababou, ellis, wilson, manuel, espiritu, maierhoferpf - manuel(small ball), raymundo, wilson, maierhofer, ellis(small ball), hatfield, espirituc - ballesteros, mamaril, maierhofer(small ball), raymundo, hatfield running game:maierhofer, manuel, ellis, ababou, caguioa, alvarez, cortezor have mamaril or ballesteros in for maierhofer, manuel or ellis Edited October 31, 2012 by dfgvan Quote Link to comment
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