RER Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Dami namang nitpickers dito. PP certainly is not superstar in the level of Kobe or Lebron or Shaq (a few years back). But he certainly has built an impressive enough resume over the course of his career and would most likely be a Hall of Famer. In my book, he is not overrated. i never said that his achievment is nothing. pero dud sabihin mo na si kg and allen(future hall o famer din) needed PP, and perhaps the reason why they go to Boston. its a hyperbole. Hindi ako naniniwalang bading si KG at allen. Quote Link to comment
dencio Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 baka lifetime achievement awards sa oscars ang makuha nya. ^^ That's the cherry on top of the icing. Quote Link to comment
peithe Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 i never said that his achievment is nothing. pero dud sabihin mo na si kg and allen(future hall o famer din) needed PP, and perhaps the reason why they go to Boston. its a hyperbole. Hindi ako naniniwalang bading si KG at allen. Just want to add also that while KG wanted to be traded back in before the 07-08 season started Boston was not among the teams he initially wanted to go to (that was the time si PP pa lang ang star dun). It was reported that the clincher was actually Ray Allen signing afterwhich KG decided to join the bandwagon. So what does this tell us ... KG would have never joined Boston with ONLY PP there. Quote Link to comment
peithe Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 (edited) si beasley, ang yabang nung nadraft sya ng miami sabay nagparehab. kaya nama pala mayabs, adik May kilala din akong isang player na halos ganyan ang istorya...mas malala pa. Si Len Bias, un highly touted rookie ng Boston nun dekada 80s. Nun na draft siya so sobrang saya nagcelebrate. Imbes na tumoma lang e di nakuntento at nag COKE pati. Ayun nasobrahan kaya imbes na feeling heaven ay napunta sa heaven kasi DEDO. ETo daw un 2nd coming sana ni MJ saka di daw madodomina ng LA ang 80s kung nagkapaglaro itong batang ito kaya sa tingin ko OVERRATED din. Di pa nakakapaglaro ng 1 game sa NBA ganun na press release. Edited November 20, 2010 by peithe Quote Link to comment
Guest eljuego Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 anlayo ng sagot mo. KG and Allen badly need paul pierce dapat ata si paul pierce ang lumpat sa team nila. Ever known the word reinforcement??? oh yeah just like michael jordan when rodman joined him para may pantapat kay shaq sa orlando noon, like Gasol para may pamoste sina Kobe. But never say PP bring his celtics in 2002 play offs. ipasok mo ang celtics sa western conference during that time baka eliminated sila sa play off. That time tadtad ng malalakas ang western. And honestly kahit ano sabihin mo hindi naging 1man game ang celtics noon. Dahil kakampi nya si Walker. 2002 ang pinag uusapan natin, while walkers current status has nothing to do with the topic. its funny how PP was so important which is KG and Allen need him? the reason why they go celtics because they need PP badly??? Nice joke anyway. you made my day Ano kamo? "But never say PP bring his Celtics in the 2002 playoffs". If it wasn't Pierce who spearheaded that march to the 2002 Eastern Conference Finals, then who? If you included New Jersey in the Western Conference in the 2002 playoffs, they'd get smoked by LA or Sacramento that's why don't nitpick on Boston alone. Yung sinasabi ko lang si PP yung main man ng Celtics ng 2002 and he was a major factor in the Celtics march to the playoffs. Kung san san na umabot yung mga post mo. May Walker ka pang ininsert. Si Walker ba yung main man ng Celtics nung time na yun? PIerce is still a major factor with the Cs. Walker is done. Sinuka sya ng Boston in the 2003-04 season inspite of him averaging 20 points and 7 rebounds the season before. Quote Link to comment
Guest eljuego Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Dami namang nitpickers dito. PP certainly is not superstar in the level of Kobe or Lebron or Shaq (a few years back). But he certainly has built an impressive enough resume over the course of his career and would most likely be a Hall of Famer. In my book, he is not overrated.Right on the money. Pierce is not on the level of Bryant, James or Wade. A second-tier superstar perhaps. He was still a Finals MVP, a feat which is something to be proud of considering the caliber of his two other teammates. Quote Link to comment
Guest eljuego Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) It seems that you are really having difficulty getting it Sir. When we say fluke, what we mean is that Boston with PP as main man was a one season wonder with that 2002 playoff run that culminated in its elimination in the Eastern Conference finals by NJ Nets. After that season, it was a downward spiral. Just take note-- 2003 -eliminated in the playoff semis; 2004 - eliminated in the 1st round; 2005 - eliminated again in the 1st round; 2006 was ranked 11th in the entire Eastern Conference; and 2007 was ranked 15th and last in the Eastern Conference. Putting aside the issues on Antoine Walker, the arrival of KG and Allen in 2007-08, the downward slide of your fave franchise from 2003-2007 was anchored by its main man, your one and only TRUTH - Paul Pierce. I cannot for the life of me understand how someone who claims to be a superstar cannot be called overrated when he singlehandedly brought down his franchise from the cusp of the Eastern Conference FINALS to being ranked 15th in just 4 years, which by the way, was the TRUTH's prime years. Perhaps Sir you should already wave the menacing gang sign that your idol brandished in the 2008 playoffs against Al Horford. You are running out of defense for your guy. Sir Nathan, everyone is entitled to his opinon. You can lambast Pierce all you want. All I posted was that he was the main man in Boston's march to the 2002 Eastern Finals then a deluge of haters suddenly pop out out of nowhere. Whatever you say about Pierce, he was a Finals MVP which is no easy feat considering the caliber of teammates like KG and Allen. He is currently Boston's third all-time leading scorer after Larry Legend and Hondo. He will have surpassed Larry Bird and be the second all-time leading scorer of the greatest team of all-time once his career is over. Just like sir dencio, I believe he will make it to the HOF. I rest my case. Edited November 21, 2010 by eljuego Quote Link to comment
Nathan M. York Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) Sir Nathan, everyone is entitled to his opinon. You can lambast Pierce all you want. All I posted was that he was the main man in Boston's march to the 2002 Eastern Finals then a deluge of haters suddenly pop out out of nowhere. Whatever you say about Pierce, he was a Finals MVP which is no easy feat considering the caliber of teammates like KG and Allen. He is currently Boston's third all-time leading scorer after Larry Legend and Hondo. He will have surpassed Larry Bird and be the second all-time leading scorer of the greatest team of all-time once his career is over. Just like sir dencio, I believe he will make it to the HOF. I rest my case. The deluge of haters actually came because you don't know how to respond correctly Sir. Your reply above clearly shows our argument to be correct. Yes PP is finals MVP in 2008, yes he is 3rd all-time leading scorer in Boston, yes he may surpass the great Larry Bird in scoring, and yes he may be enshrined in the Hall of Fame. But that is precisely the point - he may be a scorer and an MVP, but he is simply a one dimensional player and clearly OVERRATED. The problem is you people believe him to be a superstar, yet you yourselves could not even line him up against MJ, Kobe and LBJ. If he is not in that caliber, then there is no such thing as 2nd -tier superstar. You are either a superstar or NOT. By now, you should get it Sir. Edited November 21, 2010 by Nathan M. York Quote Link to comment
RER Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) Ano kamo? "But never say PP bring his Celtics in the 2002 playoffs". If it wasn't Pierce who spearheaded that march to the 2002 Eastern Conference Finals, then who? backread ka bro, highlight ko na ha. wikipedia yan galing hindi from PP fans why PP should no say he didnt cary the boston alon during the 2002 season The next few years, Pierce and Walker were the 1-2 punch for the Celtics. In the 2001-2002 season, Walker had his best overall season by helping lead the Celtics to a 49-33 record and their first playoff berth in 7 years. He was second in his team in scoring (22.0 ppg), first in rebounds (9 rpg), and 1st in assists, (5.0 apg). Pierce and Walker took the team all the way to the Eastern Conference Finals where they fell to the New Jersey Nets in 6 games. The next season, Walker made his 3rd All-Star team. Sino daw si Walker??? Pinabalik lang naman sya ng Boston nung 2005 para marebuild ang Boston, then later on isinamasa sa 13player deal(5team) AWARDS :NBA Champion (2006)3-time NBA All-Star (1998, 2002, and 2003)NBA All-Rookie First Team (1997) his records speaks ^^^ so nag iisa ba talaga si PP mo??? maaring high scoring sya. Pero he didnt bring Boston alone to conference finals Edited November 21, 2010 by RER Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 ^^^ so nag iisa ba talaga si PP mo??? maaring high scoring sya. Pero he didnt bring Boston alone to conference finals bakit, naging finals mvp ba si walker tulad ni PP? so si pierce lang talaga ang nagdala sa boston sa conf finals. ps. kung kaya ni PP na magdala ng team sa conf finals ng mag-isa, bakit hindi nya nagawa yun nung wala si KG? Quote Link to comment
RER Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 bakit, naging finals mvp ba si walker tulad ni PP? so si pierce lang talaga ang nagdala sa boston sa conf finals. nga pala noh? may eastern conference finals mvp pa pala Quote Link to comment
johncharles Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Paul Pierce never had a rating of above 88 in any video game ever, or so I think? 0 time all-nba 1st team, 0 time all-nba 2nd team, 2008 Nba finals MVP, 8 time all-star.so I say he is rated just fine. No superstar, but An all-star w/ debatable hall of fame credentials. I would vote No. Kevin Garnett on the other hand rated a whopping 99 before, back in NBA games spanning 03-05 4 time all-nba 1st team selection, 3 time all-nba second team, 8 time all-defensive 1st team selection, 2004 season MVP, 2008 Defensive player of the year, 13 time all-star, led the league in rebounds per game for 4 straight years.A lock for the Hall of Fame. Quote Link to comment
Nathan M. York Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Paul Pierce never had a rating of above 88 in any video game ever, or so I think? 0 time all-nba 1st team, 0 time all-nba 2nd team, 2008 Nba finals MVP, 8 time all-star.so I say he is rated just fine. No superstar, but An all-star w/ debatable hall of fame credentials. I would vote No. Kevin Garnett on the other hand rated a whopping 99 before, back in NBA games spanning 03-05 4 time all-nba 1st team selection, 3 time all-nba second team, 8 time all-defensive 1st team selection, 2004 season MVP, 2008 Defensive player of the year, 13 time all-star, led the league in rebounds per game for 4 straight years.A lock for the Hall of Fame. By far the more accurate assessment of the so-called TRUTH. I would also vote no in the HOF If given the chance.See Mr. Eljuego and Mr. Buwitre? Even NBA Fantasy leagues and NBA 2k11 corroborate our take on your guy.Give it up. Quote Link to comment
RER Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 ^^^ Atleast may chance paring manalo ng best actor looking forward sa cherry at the top of the icing Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 See Mr. Eljuego and Mr. Buwitre? Even NBA Fantasy leagues and NBA 2k11 corroborate our take on your guy.Give it up. baka inedit nya yung ratings ni PP sa nba 2k11 at ginawang 99 ang ratings. Quote Link to comment
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