Personal Trainers

[Bwalkin]

Anyone here knows the rate of personal trainers?

Gold's and fitness first etc.

I'm a little bit in need of motivators at tsaka tagabigay ng workout pla tAga sabi kung tama yun workout ko. thanks mtc

[Eclipseguy]

Anyone here knows the rate of personal trainers?

Gold's and fitness first etc.

I'm a little bit in need of motivators at tsaka tagabigay ng workout pla tAga sabi kung tama yun workout ko. thanks mtc

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At Fitness First, it's 770 according to their former members who are now with us. Slimmers ranges from 400-1200. The trainers who charge 1200 are very rare and they are mainly freelancing inside Slimmers. Golds ranges from 500-1000.

 

All of the aforementioned have to split their fee 50-50 or 60-40 with the gym. So, for example, if you are paying a trainer at Gold's 1000 per session, Gold's keeps 600 and the trainer keeps 400 if it's 60-40.

 

At Eclipse, we don't take a cut of the trainer's private fee, so they will charge between P250-1000 per session. The P1000 coaches are world class competitors while those who charge 250-500 are usually much more available (but not necessary any lesser qualified as the P1000 individual...just less World titles). My best coach (in my opinion) charges 500 per session. The new assistant coaches, who are fully competent apprentices of our system following 6 months of hands-on training charge about P250 per session.

 

These rates are for people who want one-on-one training or the undivided attention of one of our staff. Regular members can consult for free with one of the coaches at any time they are not with a client.

[Elrik]

sa Fitness First charge sa akin ng Trainer ko 7700 for 12 sessions

[Olympus]

sa Fitness First charge sa akin ng Trainer ko 7700 for 12 sessions

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wow that's very expensive. How are your results so far?

[Google]

sa Fitness First charge sa akin ng Trainer ko 7700 for 12 sessions

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whoa! ang mahal ah....

imho. you don't really need one. all you need is a friend who can work out with you and guide you with the initial stages. after that, you would need the motivation to do it alone + readings sa internet or sa mga health magazines.

 

when i was just starting out, i only had a (trainer) guide with me for around 2 days. after that, its all reading and doing.

 

i doubt it if you can have the results you want in 12 sessions.

[kitzsen18]

ang mahal naman pl magsearch nalng ako s net ng mga manuals hehehehe..........PEACE

[Ironpinoy]

WHAT A CLIENT AND A TRAINER SHOULD KNOW

By Ernesto P. Cruz, Jr.

ISSA-CFT

 

There has been a lot of debate recently about whether a personal trainer should or should not discuss nutrition with their clients. Liability issues in health clubs, lawsuits brought against personal trainers due to them prescribing nutrition and supplements, and heightened attempts of nutritionists and dietitians to protect their profession has caused personal trainers and their certifying agencies to re-evaluate their stand on nutrition.

 

Read more http://www.ironpinoy.com/fitness/fitfacts3.php

[redax]

The hottest debate in the fitness section is actually which method is better for weight training, body building or fitness conditioning. Unlike your write up which stesses the importance of being a certified trainer, no trainer or fitness expert engaged in the argument bothered to mention anything about this, so its hard to determine their competence. Unfortunately, here in the Philippines, certification not only for fitness trainers, but also for sports coaches is not given as much weight as it is in developed countries. A lot of what is taught here is what is gained from experience, which is not entirely accurate all the time.

[Olympus]

The hottest debate in the fitness section is actually which method is better for weight training, body building or fitness conditioning. Unlike your write up which stesses the importance of being a certified trainer, no trainer or fitness expert engaged in the argument bothered to mention anything about this, so its hard to determine their competence. Unfortunately, here in the Philippines, certification not only for fitness trainers, but also for sports coaches is not given as much weight as it is in developed countries. A lot of what is taught here is what is gained from experience, which is not entirely accurate all the time.

 

In reality, there is no internationa governing body in terms of certifications.

 

Many of these certifications are but weekend seminars and some are just mostly theory.

 

many of the top strength coaches in Eastern europe are not certified yet have produced results countless tims, and results are more significant than any certification out there.

[redax]

I'm not talking about a certification that you attended a seminar or a conference which is what they usually show here in the Philippines. A certification in a developed country is proof that you passed an exam that shows your competence. Credentials will still play a big part in any profession. A trainer who passed a course in physical education would still be more credible than one who just gained knowledge through experience. There is so much information and research in sports and physical development now that there is a need to make your competence known. For tennis teaching professionals for example, you will not be taken seriously in developed countries if you are not a certified teaching professional of a credible organization like the US Professional Tennis Association, Professional Tennis Registry or the International Tennis Federation. Even with aerobic instructors, they have there own highly respected certification organizations in developed countries. Unfortunately, here, there are not that many certified professionals in the physical fitness industry so the clients have to rely on word of mouth or other such recommendations which will not be as accurate as more objective, accurate and professional assessments and evaluations.

[Olympus]

Strength training and tennis are two different things..

 

We always have to separate skill from strength and conditioning

 

The USA Weightlifting founder and president was in fact a Sociology major, yet he had tons of experience and helped found all these level certifications and accreditations

[redax]

Strength training and tennis are two different things..

 

We always have to separate skill from strength and conditioning

 

The USA Weightlifting founder and president was in fact a Sociology major, yet he had tons of experience and helped found all these level certifications and accreditations

 

Please mention his name so I can research his credentials. Its unusual for someone of his stature not to have any other credentials. Maybe he was originally a sociology major, but he could have undergone education and specialization in physical education, sports physiology or the like after he found out sociology wasn't for him.

[Olympus]

I'll get back to you on the USAW president since I can't quite remember it.

 

Aside from him, a lot of other great coaches aren't certified, Al Vermeil, who was the strength coach of the San Francisco 49ers when they won a superbowl in the 80s and the Michael Jordan era Chicago Bulls was only a PE major.

 

Dan John, who has won numerous highland games championships and is a sought after olympic weightlifting coach is a religious studies degree holder

 

Louie Simmons of the westside barbell club isn't certified as well

 

In reality, there is no internationally governing body of certification. In Europe, certifications aren't given that look.

 

Any coach in the US would k*ll to hire or consult a Russian or Bulgarian strength coach, and these guys don't have any certificates.

 

In the end, the gym determines whether or not they would recognize a certification.

 

As always, results will always outweigh any certification out there.

[redax]

That may be the case when you're referring solely to body building where its just size and proportion that matters, but when you start being physical fitness and conditioning trainers for athletes in different sports, you would have to learn a whole lot more than body building. In Dr. Donald A. Chu's Jumping into Plyometrics for example, the programs would depend on what sport the athletes are in and their weaknesses. Its not a one size fits all program. I guess maybe in a way, body building is more like boxing and taekwondo where a lot of old school methods are still in use. A lot of the exercises they perform have already been regarded as not safe way back during the fitness craze of the 80's.

[Eclipseguy]

That may be the case when you're referring solely to body building where its just size and proportion that matters, but when you start being physical fitness and conditioning trainers for athletes in different sports, you would have to learn a whole lot more than body building. In Dr. Donald A. Chu's Jumping into Plyometrics for example, the programs would depend on what sport the athletes are in and their weaknesses. Its not a one size fits all program. I guess maybe in a way, body building is more like boxing and taekwondo where a lot of old school methods are still in use. A lot of the exercises they perform have already been regarded as not safe way back during the fitness craze of the 80's.

 

Quite the opposite. Everyone Olympus mentioned is at the top of the list in the "who's who" of strength and conditioning. I'm wondering if you even read his post. If you don't know who Al Vermeil is, then you shouldn't be bringing up Dr. Chu, since what Dr. Chu teaches is useless and even dangerous without understanding what Coach Vermeil teaches. I have yet to meet a local athlete who is physically prepared for plyometrics. Everyone I've met locally complains of nothing but problems when they've undergone plyometrics in Metro-Manila. I have NEVER met anyone who actually underwent plyometrics with anything positive to say. "I think I saw a difference" is a placebo effect. I've trained several basketball players who could dunk after 3-4 weeks of Olympic lifts. Tony Dela Cruz of the Alaska Aces could dunk after TWO power clean sessions since he bridged an old mind-muscle connection that deteriorated without the performance of the O-lifts.

 

For the record, Olympus and I train dozens of basketball players, two of which were recently drafted in the PBA in the top 5. One of these two I coached while he was recovering from TB. The doctor gave me full blessing to do what I intended to do, and he had outstanding scores on all of his strength, agility, and conditioning tests. Now it's up to the skills coaches to teach him to use his massive and powerful frame....in short, teach him how to use his raw athletic talent in the timing of rebounds, court sense, and shot selection. The JRU Heavy Bombers came to us because of how their off-season PBL opponents from Henkel-Sista that we trained were able to give them such headaches. Now JRU has won their last 5 straight games and is the leading contender to the NCAA title. As far as anyone from Jose Rizal University can remember, the last time the team won 5 straight games was in the 70's, but even that's not certain.

 

We also train dozens of fighters from Fight Club and New Breed Academy. Fight Club, in particular, is so impressed that they are considering canceling the construction of their next branch and making our Shaw branch their new home.

 

We train tri-athletes with one, in particular, who is the fastest in her age group. She came to me because she had no luck in other gyms, but saw results immediately.

 

We train competitive swimmers and are endorsed by Coach Bert Lozada. I'd take his endorsement over the endorsement of ACE any day. The first two swimmers we coached have both earned full athletic scholarships from Mapua. A 3rd swimmer is looking at a full ride at DLSU. This track record is bringing us dozens of inquiries from parents whose children are in high school who also would like to earn an athletic scholarship.

 

We have also taken over the rehabilitation of several individuals from both severe and long-term back problems and heart surgery after they were released to us by their specialists. One of our members had a coronary bypass graft. He happens to be the best friend of the biggest investor in one of our rival gyms. Ironically he doesn't trust the trainers at his gym and his best friend is now trained by one of my guys.

 

Obviously we deal with tons of other special cases and just ordinary people who want to simply look and feel better.

 

And on and on...and we only have a handful of bodybuilders (as defined by how they describe themselves), and they all follow their own programs, perfectly happy to be left to their own devices, which is fine by us, since bodybuilding is not our focus.

 

So to our clients from all walks of life, professional teams, fighting schools, professional swimming academies, and even medical doctors, our experience is what counts the most. They trust experience and the results they've seen any day over a certification.

 

 

This is the same reason why our own in-house certification takes at least 6 months of practical observation and assistance and then another 6 months (at least) to be recognized and trusted to handle special cases.

 

And indeed there is not a "one size fits all program". That's why all are done by hand and every single program must be tailored around the strengths and weaknesses of the individual. Furthermore, only the most senior among us writes programs, especially now that we have so many special cases.