Petronus Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 ei guys anong ginagamit nyong shutterspeed pag maglandscape kayo? or any advice to get a great landscape shot?..pag umaga, hapon at gabi... ano namang aperture pag magpaning kayo? and when do you use f5.6 / f.8 / f16? medyo nalilito pko when to use these apertures kasi plgi nlng ako 5.6 or 22... If it's during the day or afternoon, take a meter reading for brightest part of the sky. But don't aim at the sun because you'll probably go blind. You're camera will tell you what shutter speed to use. Regardless of the aperture, set the focus at infinity.( on the lens barrel it looks like a number "8" laying on its side.). For best results, use a tripod and a remote/cable release. With night shots, a tripod will most like be indispensable. Meter for what you want exposed properly. Quote Link to comment
yomar Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 for landscape photography, i would suggest a very deep DOF. That would mean your aperture opening is small (high f-number). This would make the foreground and background more in focus. Quote Link to comment
yomar Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 As to your question on when to use which f-number, it actually depends. Do you want a shallow or deep depth of field? Are you shooting in low light conditions? What effect do you want to achieve? Try practicing using Aperture priority on your camera. Shoot the same subjects at different f-numbers. Analyze the results. Quote Link to comment
xycho_g Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 thanks petronus and yomar for the replies.... Quote Link to comment
arrow Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 arrow: As agxo3 mentioned, ISO is the sensitivity of the sensor. Think of it this way, the higher the ISO setting, the less light is needed to form a picture. So if you're going to shoot indoors, for example, most probably you'll be needing a high ISO setting to produce good pictures. Otherwise, the pics will turn out dark. This is why when buying an ISO 100 film, you'll notice that the box will say that the film you're buying is recommended for shooting outdoors, while ISO 400's are considered indoor/outdoor use. The advantage of shooting with a high ISO setting is that you can produce pictures even if light source is limited. The disadvantage is that pictures become grainy or noisy. easily digested...thx bro... and pardon my ignorance.. <_< Quote Link to comment
yomar Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 easily digested...thx bro... and pardon my ignorance.. No problem, fellow uragon Quote Link to comment
fire_breather Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) ei guys anong ginagamit nyong shutterspeed pag maglandscape kayo? or any advice to get a great landscape shot?..pag umaga, hapon at gabi... ano namang aperture pag magpaning kayo? and when do you use f5.6 / f.8 / f16? medyo nalilito pko when to use these apertures kasi plgi nlng ako 5.6 or 22... Bro xycho_g, Gaya sabi ng mga na-una try metering or set camera to aperture mode and the camera sets the appropriate shutterspeed for the subject. Take shots at different apertures, ook at the results and pick what's best. I don't know but perhaps some of our fellow photography lovers here have a known shutterspeed/aperture formula for particular time of day and or subject. BTW. Got some time to k*ll last weekend, so below are samples of the effect of different aperture settings at fixed shutter speed. I'll do a reverse this weekend and fixed my aperture and get different shutterspeed caps. Cheers! Focal: 38mm ISO: 200 Shutterspeed: 1/250 Time of day: 6:45PM No clouds and Sun almost setting @ F/3.5 (picture looked washed out) http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z215/Krimson07/f3_5.jpg@ f/5.6 (just right for my taste atleast)http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z215/Krimson07/f5_6.jpg@ f/8.0 (Dramatic contrast of light and shadows)http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z215/Krimson07/f8_0.jpg@ f/13 (Shadows took over the frame)http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z215/Krimson07/f13_0.jpg Edited July 3, 2007 by fire_breather Quote Link to comment
yomar Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 The pictures above show the effect of aperture size at the same shutterspeed. As the aperture closes (as the f number goes higher), less light is allowed to enter, causing the pictures to become dark. But you'll also see the effect of aperture on the depth of field. At f3.5, the trees in the background are blurred. At f5.6, they have become clearer. fire_breather: ganda ng garden niyo bro Quote Link to comment
xycho_g Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 as much as i wanted to try shooting with different apertures, slr lng kasi camera ko. ang gastos magshoot ng bracketing. thats why im asking these questions. i hope my questions are not that much hassle...but thanks for those who reply. Quote Link to comment
fire_breather Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 (edited) @ yomar: Nice addition on the Depth of Field...thanks for the comment on the garden too, it's actualy our backyard which backs to a natural reserve hence the trees in the background beyond the fence @ psycho_g: No hassle here and part of learning is practicing. Hopefuly yung mga samples and tips na mapulot mo dito at sa shutterbugs thread can help. Here are 3 pics of same subject at different time of day and coresponding camera settings used na sana ay makatulong sa original question mo tungkol sa diff. apertures and shutterspeeds sa umaga, hapon o gabi. Also, If you look into the eye piece of your SLR there should be indicators (like +, -, or red/green dots, bars - depending on camera model) that gives you information whether you have correct exposure or not. Then play with the aperture and shutter settings till it gives you exact or near "green" or "correct" reading. This is what I did with the below pics (I have no formulas ) Again, I'm no expert so pardon my words. Like you I simply shoot, practice and shoot and practice some more Cheers! a. 9AM -bright sky (38mm, f/9.5, 1/350, ISO 100)http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z215/Krimson07/38mm_f9_5_9am_s1_350.jpg b. 6PM - cloudy & drizzling (38mm, f/4.8, 1/90, ISO 100) http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z215/Krimson07/38mm_f4_8_6PM_s1_90.jpg c. 10:30 PM - cloudy evening (38mm, f/3.5, 1/2, ISO 200)http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z215/Krimson07/38mm_f3.jpg Edited July 5, 2007 by fire_breather Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 as much as i wanted to try shooting with different apertures, slr lng kasi camera ko. ang gastos magshoot ng bracketing. thats why im asking these questions. i hope my questions are not that much hassle...but thanks for those who reply. Most SLRs let you select your aperture, so you should have no problem with that. A couple of tips - 1) to maintain the same exposure but change aperture, for every step you change your aperture you change a step in your shutter speed. For example - if your meter says the right exposure is 1/250 sec @ f/4 but you want more depth of field, then you can go to f/5.6 at 1/125 sec., or f/8 @ 1/60 sec. Conversely, if your meter says the right exposure is 1/250 sec at f/11 and you want LESS depth of field then you can use f/8 @ 1/500 sec or f/5.6 @ 1/1000 sec.2) for lanscapes, most of the time I try to shoot with the smallest possible aperture - on my 4x5 cameras that means going to f/64 or even f/128. There are times when you want to blur the background or foreground but that is unusual in a landscpe. The reason you want to get as much depth of field in a landscape is because our eyes unconciously adjust for focus, so whenever you look at a grand lanscape EVERYTHING looks to be in focus. Therefore for a photo to LOOK natural, you hav to get as much DOF as possible! Unfortunately, trial and error is still the best way to learn. However, you should try to do it in a very controlled manner so you don't waste too much film. Some suggestions for things to try - 1) pick a scene that has BOTH near and far object, but do try to get more range than the previous example. Try to get something close (about 6 feet away) and something medium distance (say, 20 feet) and something at infinity. Set the focus to infinity (DO NOT AUTOFOCUS!!!) Pick the right exposure as a reference, then change aperture and shutter speed up and down as I indicated earlier. Make sure you keep a GOOD record of your exposures. This will illustrate for you VERY CLEARLY the effect of aperture.2) pick a scene with a fast moving object, such as an electric fan set on the slowest possible speed. Focus carefully, then lock the focus. Find the right exposure and take a picture of the moving fan blades. Try to get a range of speeds from at least 1/30 sec to 1/1000 sec. You should see the effect of shutter speed. Note than in BOTH these exapmles you should have a constant exposure in all your negatives. Other things you should do with a film camera - 1) pick only a few films to use. I would pick no more than 4 films, a B/W ISO100 film, a B/W ISO400 film, and the same for color. 2) Then pick a lab to use, and be CONSITENT. Always use the same lab. Get to know the lab technician so he knows you and will eventually try to be more careful in processing your film. At another time we'll talk about finding your true exposure index for your films. Quote Link to comment
xycho_g Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 wow..thanks fire and agxo!!! thanks thanks... Quote Link to comment
xycho_g Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 omg!! another lesson i learned..kala ko sira light meter ko!!! un pla ayos..kaya ayun..underexposed ung ibang shots ko...waaaaaaa..pero ok lng..atleast ngyn alam ko na pano gamitin at alam ko na ayos..haha... uu nga pla...do you guys use a tripod pag alam nyong night shoot kayo?... Quote Link to comment
fire_breather Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 omg!! another lesson i learned..kala ko sira light meter ko!!! un pla ayos..kaya ayun..underexposed ung ibang shots ko...waaaaaaa..pero ok lng..atleast ngyn alam ko na pano gamitin at alam ko na ayos..haha... uu nga pla...do you guys use a tripod pag alam nyong night shoot kayo?... If nakaplano... Di lang sa night shots but also when you know that you'll shoot in conditions that may need slow shutter speeds, or shooting with big lenses to help with balance and control shakiness, also when planning a serries of shots for panoramic stitching, and also when you like to be in the shot Quote Link to comment
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