His Airness Michael Jordan

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You are such a hater. You end up trolling the thread everytime a good post for MJ shows up. "Wasn't even enthusiastic", i'm just gonna smh on this one. You know what you sound like? A bitter old man, someone who is bitter because you feel that your guy Larry Bird isn't getting enough praise that's why you keep on repeating whatever point you already mentioned in your previous posts recycling it over and over. Just stop with the trolling already. This is an MJ thread and posting stuff that puts MJ down just to make your guy look good sounds jealous and vindictive. You can And as for the fanboy comment, for someone who is supposedly knowledgeable on the game of basketball, I'm surprised you don't know who Bruce Blitz is, he actually doesn't just talk he uses videos as reference and analyzes the game on an in depth level. He sounds about right with because he backs it up with facts. And you don't know him? If he is a fanboy as you say, you are basically the same because you are a Larry Bird homer, a fanboy of Bird and a hater of MJ.

 

I just had an idea, you have a youtube account right? Why don't you engage Bruce Blitz on a debate on who's better Larry Bird or MJ if not I will message him on youtube and ask him to make a video and look at the situation and make a conclusion. You probably won't debate with the guy because you think he's a "fanboy" not that much different from you if you ask me. His email is bruceblitzed@gmail.com and he has a youtube account with all NBA analysis videos and things about the 80's and MJ.

 

 

I'm pretty sure Magic doesn't sound "enthusiastic" here as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_DJjYw9R-w

 

QUOTES:

 

"WE WERE PLAYING AS HARD AS WE COULD, AND HE TOOK IT TO A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL"

'MAGIC & LARRY, THERE'S A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN"

 

 

 

By the way, being a good team player is half the battle of being considered a great player. You have to be a great player individually.

 

On a game of one on one. MJ will destroy Larry Bird, why? Even if Larry Bird is a great shooter. He can't knock those down all day because MJ will wear him out on D. He will eventually miss, and MJ will get him offensively. Because one weakness that Bird has is his defense. He is a decent defender but one on one against MJ he is a liable mismatch defensively. MJ will win

Edited February 5, 2016 by hahnz

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Larry Bird admits Michael Jordan would 'k*ll' him one-on-one these days

By Matt Moore | NBA writer

 

July 27, 2015 5:35 PM ET

 

Once upon a time, Larry Bird was the greatest trash-talker of them all. The Hick from French Lick used to absolutely tear down his opponents with his mouth. While Michael Jordan, Kevin Garnett, Gary Payton and others would come along to top him, Bird still goes down as one of the flat-out coolest trash-talkers in the league.

 

But in a terrific interview with the Dan Patrick Show on Monday, it became clear that Basketball Jesus has gone soft in his old age. He admits Michael Jordan would "crush him" one-on-one these days.

 

From the Score.com:

"I hate to admit this, but (Jordan) would k*ll me," a jovial Bird said. "I'm forty pounds more than I was when I played, I'm broken down, I really don't care like I used to ... I have a fight in me but it's not the fight that I once had."

However, the hyper-competitive Bird did give himself some rightful credit. "But it would be a pretty close game," Bird added.

This one's pretty obvious. Jordan said back in June he could take all the Hornets one-on-one, right now. He dunked two weeks ago. He's kept himself in shape (although he's also still partying it up, apparently). It is kind of interesting that Bird admitted that his "fight" isn't the same. This was one of the most competitive guys on the planet. But eventually, that all fades away.

Unless you're MJ.

 

 

 

 

- Ok Mason, i know you are going to say something about this because you never run out of things (excuses) to say just so you could defend your precious Larry Bird. I won't stop you but I'm just letting you know that i expect you to say something because you will hahaha

Edited February 5, 2016 by hahnz

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Hahahaha! I already read that article a couple of months back. Did you even understand what Bird was talking about? He was talking of his present state. This is an inane article. Bird owned Jordan when they were still in the NBA. That's a fact.

 

Amusing is all i can say. For you to insinuate that i don't understand what he was talking about. If they played each other today. He admitted that MJ would k*ll him.

 

And even if they did play in their primes. MJ would win. I will go as far as saying that Bird will keep it close but in the end MJ will win. 10-8 would be the final score.

I'm going to repeat what i said. Bird would have the advantage with the post up but throughout the game he will fade because he will get worn out. MJ would win.

That video you posted are plays that happened within a game. Those are just instances. I'm talking about straight up one on one no cameras just the 2 of them in a gym playing against each other. I would enjoy the trash talking going back and forth but the outcome would be in MJ's favor.

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You know why i call you a hater? its these types of comments that you make you a hater that you claim as facts "he wasn't enthusiastic when he said it" ok. I don't know what your definition of fact is but this statement is not a fact. How do you know if Magic was enthusiastic when he said that MJ was the greatest of all time? By reading his expression, and then making a conclusion that its a fact? Maybe its your fact in your mind but not Magic's. Or are you going to tell me, that your a mind reader and you can tell if Magic is enthusiastic or not? haha. That's a laugh and a half.

 

There's nothing wrong if you admit that you're a Jordan hater because its a common thing. There are haters, there are Kobe haters, Bird haters, Magic haters. So you're no different than the fanboys you don't claim to be. I don't even want to say anything about those other statements you made about when MJ left the bulls still had a good record. Because i have an answer for that and i don't really want to bother with it. You keep posting the same stuff anyway. I always post some new stuff.

 

If Larry Bird is as great as you claim him to be. Why didn't guys like Magic, his nemesis in the 80's say that he is the greatest? He doesn't hate the guy, he actually respects him and loves him. He has no ulterior motive to dump in Larry because he won more times than Larry did. So there is no personal reason why Magic would hate Bird. If anything, he should be one of the haters of MJ because he beat him in the finals, and he was more successful than he was. Ex NBA players have a tendency to hate other players who played after them because they see them as threats to their legacy. But why does he say that MJ is the greatest? Because he is.

 

By the way i asked Bruce Blitz to make video comparing your Larry Bird and MJ. I'm interested to hear what he has to say. You should go on youtube and debate him, or you only like to debate me on this subject you should expand more and debate other people.

 

That's the end of my soliloquy. I've said my piece. I'm going to post the next Bruce Blitz video once its up. Stop trolling everytime i put up MJ videos. THis is an MJ appreciation thread not a debate thread on whos better.

 

If you want request a Larry Bird thread so you can post your fanboy Larry Bird is the greatest comments.

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I'm going way ahead of you because i already expect you to post some cockamamie retort and say its a fact, by saying that the one on one game is played both ways, not just shooting. Larry Bird gotta play some D too, but he is not that great of a defensive player. Larry Bird can shoot i don't doubt that but there is no way that he will be perfect with his post up moves, he won't be able to get to the basket as much either as he will be defended well by a player who was once voted Defensive player of the year and has been always on the All NBA- First team defense. He will rely on post ups and shoot from the outside since he won't be able to get to the basket, but he won't be able to keep shooting outside because he will miss.

 

And as far as his defense goes, he won't be able to stop MJ on D because as much as I think that he is a decent defensive player. He won't be able to keep up with the athleticism, quickness and strength as MJ will get to the basket.

 

If this game was played with just shooting. Bird might get my nod. But one on one? Let's just say i won't bet against MJ

Edited February 5, 2016 by hahnz

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Haha! When Bird said today, he meant the present. How old is Larry Bird? Even I agree that Jordan would beat Larry because Larry is old. Did you watch the televised one on one of Dr. J and Kareem? Kareem beat Dr. J because the Doctor was smaller. Julius was quicker but he was smaller. Using that as a basis, Larry will beat Michael. What's your basis? Your imagination?

 

Well they're both old, Larry being older a bit than MJ. The Kareem and Dr. J one on one game was pathetic, they were both old and barely had di anything spectacular because they were past their primes. Don't even use that as a comparison because that was a mismatch for Dr. J. They should have picked a player who played closer to Dr. J's position to go against him, a forward or a guard. Not a center. My basis for MJ winning a one on one game against Bird is his defense, did you even bother to read my post? My imagination. SMH + Facepalm. Let me repeat it for you. Even if Bird can post up MJ he wouldn't be able to get close to the basket because MJ is strong. Bird won't be able to back him down. So he will resort to shooting 15 feet and beyond. MJ is a beast defensively. As the game will wear on, Bird will fade and start to miss from the outside. Defense is the deciding factor here, MJ will have a better chance of stopping Bird than Bird is with stopping MJ on defense. I will say it again. Bird's defense is non existent. I've seen the games, you don't even bother to mention his defense because he's no stopper. Unless by some miracle, he goes 10-10 from the field in the one on one game. I don't see him winning. His height won't really matter too much because MJ will body him up and it will take a toll as the game wears on.

 

If he can't defend MJ then MJ will take this game for sure. And I'm definitely sure that Bird can't defend MJ. If it takes at least 3 people defending MJ in order to stop him then Bird has no chance by himself

 

 

Bird defending MJ at 22 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi1aO17iKxI

Edited February 6, 2016 by hahnz

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Hahaha! Pathetic because you said so? Hilarious. My point is Kareem is bigger than Julius. Both are superstars and both may have been past their primes but they were still contributing to their teams' success. Bird would post up Jordan repeatedly and MJ wouldn't have been able to do anything about it. On defense, all Bird has to do is stay in the lane and let Jordan beat him from the outside. On offense, all Larry has to do is bully the Bull in the post. What? You're showing one instance when Jordan got his shot on Bird? By the way, who won that game again? What about posting videos of Bird bullying Jordan in the post?

 

And I'm definitely sure that Bird can't defend MJ. If it takes at least 3 people defending MJ in order to stop him then Bird has no chance by himself. We're not talking about the game, we are talking about one on one. Stop diverting the attention and focus on the topic at hand.

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I already showed you a video just as an example. I am not fond of showing videos. I can show you more if you want. I can show you the times Jordan got destroyed by Larry in the post. You are so blinded by your belief that MJ is the greatest that you can't even admit that MJ would get destroyed by Larry one on one. I already showed you a couple of my bases for that. Go again to youtube and check out the games of the Cs and Bulls in the 80s.

 

Larry Bird can shoot i don't doubt that but there is no way that he will be perfect with his post up moves, he won't be able to get to the basket as much either as he will be defended well by a player who was once voted Defensive player of the year and has been always on the All NBA- First team defense. He will rely on post ups and shoot from the outside since he won't be able to get to the basket, but he won't be able to keep shooting outside because he will miss.

 

Saw those clips you said, they don't tell the whole story. That it took a plethora, i repeat, a plethora of players double, triple teaming MJ and yet still had a hard time stopping him. If its one on one, then Bird will have no chance

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I really don't care about his opinions as I know my facts. Are you butthurt that I am discrediting your hero, MJ, by posting cold, hard facts? Like I said, MJ is a great player. Just not greater than Larry.

 

I'm surprised that you're a Knick fan and you're defending MJ like a Bulls homer. Do you know the name Bernard King? I mean if you don't, I would say that you're just a fairweather fan. I don't need to google what Bernard King is to the Knicks because I have watched this guy play on an otherwordly level. He was arguably the second-best shooting forward in the East during that time. In terms of competitive ferocity, he'd be right up there with Jordan and Bird.

 

Bernard King and his Knicks took the Celtics (who would win the championship that year) to 7 games in the East semis in 1984 and Bernard was a major reason why the Knicks took the Celtics to the full route. If we go by logic, the Knicks were in the realm of the Lakers that year (who lost the championship to the Celtics) because it also took the Celtics 7 games to upend the Lakers in the 1984 finals. At least, Bernard and the Knicks gave Larry and the Cs a difficult time before bowing. The Bulls and your hero never had a chance against the Celtics as they clobbered the hapless Bulls in back to back sweeps in 1986 and 1987.

 

Don't treat me like I'm some 2nd rate who doesn't know basketball. I know very well who Bernard King is. I know how much of an offensive force he is, but i don't see him playing D he is a great scorer but not so average defender. That's why he never got to the ship.

 

I don't need to rebut your so called facts because I've seen you repost them before and I had an answer for them. I don't need to repeat myself. Go back and backread on those topics because I don't want to be redundant.

 

I'm a knick, blue and orange. But i don't see the crime in throwing your hands up for a player of MJ's caliber. So i don't appreciate you calling me a homer. Maybe because i called you a Larry Bird fanboy. Don't worry it'll be our little secret haha

 

Anyway, this is the last time i will touch on this subject. Because we can go back and forth posting on what we know that makes the other one better.

 

Again stop trolling on this thread because this isn't a debate thread its an appreciation for the art that MJ paints on the basketball court. So you should stop putting up "Oh Larry Bird beat MJ, Larry bird is better.. blah blah blah" everytime i post something about MJ. That comes off as hate from a bitter old man seeking glory for his guy on a thread of another player. Because right on queue, after an MJ post, there you are seeking attention and posting stuff for Larry Bird. You see what I'm talking about. This is not a debate thread, its an appreciation thread.

 

On a final note, i don't hate Larry Bird, i just don't think he is better than other players. He is top 5 though.

 

Anyway, here is a nice Mcdonald's commercial.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1shK-j_u6LI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3zZ2OUVgPQ

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6VKOq45j5o

 

 

"If I Could be like Mike"

 

Sometimes I dream
That he is me
You've got to see that's how I dream to be
I dream I move, I dream I groove
Like Mike
If I could Be Like Mike
Like Mike
Oh, if I could Be Like Mike
Be Like Mike, Be Like Mike
Again I try
Just need to fly
For just one day if I could
Be that way
I dream I move
I dream I groove
Like Mike
If I could Be Like Mike
I wanna be, I wanna be
Like Mike
Oh, if I could Be Like Mike

 

Maybe Bird didn't want to sing because his Pacers lost to Mike in the ECF in 1998. LOL.

Edited February 6, 2016 by hahnz

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adusCcba89o

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By the way, before calling me bitter, I was not the one who created the Larry-Magic thread. You requested it to be created because you were being outargued by yours truly in this thread and you needed a Magic-Larry thread to put Larry down. When I exposed the Magic is greater than Larry myth, you had no ammo to counter it. You're the one sounding like a bitter old man because you can't disprove the facts I presented on this thread, hence, you put up another thread to try to put Larry down but when I presented facts and opinions based on facts, you were still not able to discredit it.

 

That's quite an accusation. Can you prove that i requested a thread like that for that reason? Prove it then get back to me. Can you prove that i created a magic-larry thread because you are CLAIMING, i repeat, CLAIMING, that i created that to put Bird down, without any evidence. That would make you look like a paranoid guy for falsely claiming something against another without any proof. Anyway, stop confabulating stories with your imagination. I wanted to talk about those 2 guys because i saw the documentary about them and i thought that they should be compared to each other because they were the faces of the NBA in the 80's, not because i wanted to put your Larry Bird down. So again, find a very convincing evidence before you make false accusations.

Edited February 8, 2016 by hahnz

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It didn't enter my mind at the time. What does the debate of MJ have anything to do with the Magic-Larry thread? Nothing, the thread is about Magic and Larry. I don't know what you're trying to imply but you should stop watching conspiracy movies and trying to make connections where there is none. The creation of that thread has nothing to do with the MJ debate.

 

You sound very bitter when you think that i did that to put Larry Bird down. I know you're a fanboy of his but thats not a reason for me to do anything like that. You need to stop confabulating conspiracy theories. No connection with how i created the thread with another thing.

 

I'm done answering this false accusation. I don't need a reason to do what i do and i don't have to answer to anyone for anything i'm doing

Edited February 8, 2016 by hahnz