Palakol Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 i just came from the Wild Card and i watched Manny train. he's sharp as ever, and i doubt he slacked off in training like people say for publicity's sake. i've never seen hands move that fast. Quote Link to comment
bubuy Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 ang tingin ko naman talaga jan eh nagpapadehado si pacman (thru the press releases na kesyo ganito, ganyan) para sa vegas betting line. mahina nga naman ang kita nila chavit et al kung llamado eh.. Quote Link to comment
uaeboy25 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 (edited) pacman vs margarito siguro may nagtatanong, bakit sya ang nasa isip ko??? tinalo ni margarito si cotto nung nakaraang taon habang si pacman ay lalaban kay cotto ngayon. masa malaki si margarito, mas maliit si pacman, magaling si pacman, mabilis at malakas sumuntok. At di hamak na mas malakas kay margarito. bakit??? panoorin na lang ang 3 huling laban nya, kahit isama pa ung ilan sa mga laban nya matapos na matalo kay morales. lahat nakatikim ng knockdown. un ba ang mahinang sumuntok? habang si margarito, malakas sumuntok lalo na kung may plaster of paris. si pacman hindi na kailangan ng plaster of paris, gifted puncher sabi nga ng kilalang analyst. si pacman malinis maglaro habang si margarito... may mas dudumi pa bang maglaro sa naglalagay ng patigas sa kamao sa boxing? pacman vs cottosabi nga nila wag sukatin ang laki ng bote, kung hindi mo pa nakikita ang laman nito sa loob. maaring malaki subalit konti ang laman mas magaling pa ang maliit subalit puno at di hamak na mas madami ang laman kumpara sa malaking bote. ganyan noon ang kasabihan noong panahon ni henry armstrong. ang boksingerong nagpalipat lipat ng timbang at nilabanan ang mga taong di hamak na mas malaki sa kanya, maaring minsan ng natalo subalit marami rin syang naipanalo. ang mga boxing fans hindi sa kanila importante ang walang talo. ang importante ang mga boksingerong matapang na lumalaban ng dehado sa laki. doon naging paborito si pacman. nagsimula kay morales na mas malaki kay pacman. parang naging adik na ata tong si pacquiao sa paglaban sa mas malaki at natural na mas mabigat sa kanya. morales, diaz, dela hoya at hatton, lahat tumumba kay pacquiao. mga mas mabigat subalit binigo ng mas maliit na si pacquiao. Bakit nga ba si marquez hindi masyadong minalas kumpara kina morales, diaz, dela hoya at hatton? may ugali si pacquiao na maas lalo mo syang hamunin lalo syang nagmamatigas na manalo. nung matalo sya kay morales noon ko lang narinig na naghamon sya ng "rematch anytime anywhere" matigas na hamon ng isang talunan matapos ang 12 round na paghaharap. at matapos nun ung 2 rematch nila ni morales ay isang malaking panalo ni pacquiao. magandang ugali na magiging hamon kay cotto. may perpektong ugali si pacquiao na pwedeng tumalo kay cotto habang ang chance ni cotto na manalo ay dahil sa laki lamang. oo laki lamang, sa laki dahil sa mga huling laban nya ilang ulit narin syang nakaramdam ng hilo sa ring laban sa mas maliit na kalaban. ano pa sa isang "gifted puncher" maganda ang magiging laban ni pacman sa nov. 14, maaring tanong ng marami kung kaya bang tumanggap ni pacquiao ng mas mabigat na suntok mula sa mas malaking tao, subalit hindi pa bumagsak si pacquiao sa mga mas malaking kalaban, habang ang tanong kay cotto tatagal ba sya sa isang "gifted puncher', minsan na syang lumaban sa mga boksingerong malakas sumontok at nakita na ang resulta. malinaw na sya mismo ay may kahinaan sa malalakas sumuntok. abangan... Edited October 31, 2009 by uaeboy25 Quote Link to comment
pits_of_jairo Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Go for the win, Pacman! Quote Link to comment
Merc Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Dapat hindi maliitin ni Manny si Miguel Cotto. Mentally shell-shocked man daw si Cotto. Quote Link to comment
Eddy Syet Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Ilang araw na lang at "Nanayt Cotto" na! Quote Link to comment
George Bush Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 ang tingin ko naman talaga jan eh nagpapadehado si pacman (thru the press releases na kesyo ganito, ganyan) para sa vegas betting line. mahina nga naman ang kita nila chavit et al kung llamado eh.. I have to agree on this...all this time about the stories of disctractions and lack of training, para lang sa hype ng laban , gumanda tayaan, remember the 2 fighter are Bob arum's fighter, where is the money ??? pag natalo si pacman? of course wala? ...big money if manalo si pacman....for sure next fight would be gayweather ....mega mega fight, rainfall of money for bob arum....my 2 cents Quote Link to comment
LYCHEE Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 as usual, manny's hand-speed vs. cotto's power punches will spell the difference...kahit pa lamang ng 1 inch ang kamao ni cotto. Quote Link to comment
ixnay Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 as usual, manny's hand-speed vs. cotto's power punches will spell the difference...kahit pa lamang ng 1 inch ang kamao ni cotto. we can only know all of that come NOv.14 i'll give pacman 3 - 5rds to beat cotto Quote Link to comment
agentjackbauer Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Pushy First posted 00:12:58 (Mla time) October 29, 2009 Conrado de Quiros Philippine Daily Inquirer I saw Manny Pacquiao being interviewed on Australian TV last weekend. I don’t know if it was an old clip or a new one. His answers to the questions the interviewer put to him were a mix of motherhood and thoughtful statements. He was fighting for his country, he said. It was in such a depressed state it could do with some boosting, and knowing his countrymen reposed much hope in that respect on his fists, he would apply himself to the task with ardor. Asked why he went into acting and singing and politics, he laughed and said why ever not, you never know what hidden talents lurk underneath you until you try. As to why he continues to fight, he said it was no longer really the money, it was, quite apart from raising the flagging spirits of his countrymen, trying to be the best that he could be. Or seeing how far his boxing gifts would take him. His inspiration in life—I held my breath for a while thinking he might mention Arroyo, Chavit Singson, or Lito Atienza—were his family and the Great Boxer in the Sky. Pacquiao of course did not answer in this way. I am completely paraphrasing him, filling in the spaces between the lines. The interview was in English, and on several occasions he groped for the words to express himself. The motherhood statements probably owed to this. I suspect that if he were speaking in Tagalog, or Visayan, he might have given more detailed and personal answers to what drove him to fight. I say this because despite speaking in English—and indeed despite the heavy Australian accent of his interviewer, which he had no difficulty understanding—Pacquiao was completely unfazed. He wasn’t nervous, he wasn’t shy, he wasn’t hesitant. He was brimming with confidence. I’ve seen athletes turn from ferocious to meek when interviewed after stunning victories, finding the task or organizing their thoughts or expressing themselves in another language far more daunting than the challenge they had just faced. Pacquiao was not one of them. He was as fearless facing his interviewer as he was facing Ricky Hatton. Maybe it was the experience of having been interviewed abroad many times before. But maybe, more than that, it was just his character. Pacquiao is not one to be easily fazed. By anything. After Pacquiao, the interviewer interviewed Brian Viloria. Being Fil-Am, Viloria answered his questions effortlessly and with much nuance. But you compared the demeanor of both boxers during their interviews, and you wouldn’t see any difference. Pacquiao has sometimes been seen, at least locally, as being too self-assured to the point of cockiness, but I don’t know that that is necessarily bad. Certainly, I don’t know that he doesn’t need it. You can’t get far without those levels of self-assurance, or cockiness, particularly when facing foes in the ring who look like executioners. Wrestling of course has driven the idea to satirical or self-parodying levels. But you need to feel bigger, better, larger-than-life to not be intimidated. I’ve often wondered if that is not Pacquiao’s biggest strength. Of course he is vastly talented; self-assurance alone will get you nowhere. But I’ve also seen deeply talented athletes fall by the wayside. Many Filipino boxers lose while fighting abroad because they are not just fighting one enemy but several enemies. Quite apart from their foes, they are fighting a hostile crowd, an alien culture (including an alien language), themselves. Or their shyness, their sense of inferiority, the reflex of “knowing their place” that has been drummed into them their whole lives. Not Pacquiao. From the first, he exuded pugnacity not just inside the ring but outside of it. Though his answers were humble, his demeanor was not. He was unfazed by the crowd, he was unfazed by the cameras, he was unfazed by his English. They were merely of the order of facing another foe, not unlike the one in the ring, and vanquishing them. Which raises an interesting point: Success does build confidence, as you can see from Pacquiao today—he is more confident than ever. But isn’t the opposite true as well? Doesn’t confidence also produce success? You have to wonder on a broader plane if that is not the thing that has held us back from making the kind of giant steps Pacquiao has. The culture can be very cruel. Elsewhere in the world, kids are taught to be assertive, to speak their mind, to not take abuse. Here, we are taught to be obedient, to hold our tongue, to grin and bear it. Elsewhere, people who try to learn another language, or attempt to speak it in conversation, however haltingly, are thought of as doing a valiant thing. Here people who do the same thing—particularly in the province—are thought of as making fools of themselves. Parochial schools are not called that for nothing. I have a friend who was thought of being aggressive and boastful by his classmates. Not surprisingly, he made it big in America. Of course there’s a level at which frankness becomes bluntness, assertion becomes abrasiveness, outspokenness becomes loudness. You get a lot of that in US airports, a stunning contrast with Narita where the personnel are awesomely polite but just as awesomely efficient. But just as well there is a level where obedience becomes submissiveness, respect for authority becomes mindlessness, and patience is no longer a virtue. Certainly they can stand in the way of the dogged pursuit of greater goals, or giant dreams. Call Pacquiao presumptuous, call Pacquiao outrageous, call Pacquiao cocky, but you kind of thank heaven too that he is. Maybe it’s a question of balancing things. Of finding the right mix between shyness and loudness, quietness and extroversion, compliance and pugnacity. But right now, we can’t do better than err on the side of pushy. Quote Link to comment
federicuger Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 pacman vs margarito siguro may nagtatanong, bakit sya ang nasa isip ko??? tinalo ni margarito si cotto nung nakaraang taon habang si pacman ay lalaban kay cotto ngayon. masa malaki si margarito, mas maliit si pacman, magaling si pacman, mabilis at malakas sumuntok. At di hamak na mas malakas kay margarito. bakit??? panoorin na lang ang 3 huling laban nya, kahit isama pa ung ilan sa mga laban nya matapos na matalo kay morales. lahat nakatikim ng knockdown. un ba ang mahinang sumuntok? habang si margarito, malakas sumuntok lalo na kung may plaster of paris. si pacman hindi na kailangan ng plaster of paris, gifted puncher sabi nga ng kilalang analyst. si pacman malinis maglaro habang si margarito... may mas dudumi pa bang maglaro sa naglalagay ng patigas sa kamao sa boxing? pacman vs cottosabi nga nila wag sukatin ang laki ng bote, kung hindi mo pa nakikita ang laman nito sa loob. maaring malaki subalit konti ang laman mas magaling pa ang maliit subalit puno at di hamak na mas madami ang laman kumpara sa malaking bote. ganyan noon ang kasabihan noong panahon ni henry armstrong. ang boksingerong nagpalipat lipat ng timbang at nilabanan ang mga taong di hamak na mas malaki sa kanya, maaring minsan ng natalo subalit marami rin syang naipanalo. ang mga boxing fans hindi sa kanila importante ang walang talo. ang importante ang mga boksingerong matapang na lumalaban ng dehado sa laki. doon naging paborito si pacman. nagsimula kay morales na mas malaki kay pacman. parang naging adik na ata tong si pacquiao sa paglaban sa mas malaki at natural na mas mabigat sa kanya. morales, diaz, dela hoya at hatton, lahat tumumba kay pacquiao. mga mas mabigat subalit binigo ng mas maliit na si pacquiao. Bakit nga ba si marquez hindi masyadong minalas kumpara kina morales, diaz, dela hoya at hatton? may ugali si pacquiao na maas lalo mo syang hamunin lalo syang nagmamatigas na manalo. nung matalo sya kay morales noon ko lang narinig na naghamon sya ng "rematch anytime anywhere" matigas na hamon ng isang talunan matapos ang 12 round na paghaharap. at matapos nun ung 2 rematch nila ni morales ay isang malaking panalo ni pacquiao. magandang ugali na magiging hamon kay cotto. may perpektong ugali si pacquiao na pwedeng tumalo kay cotto habang ang chance ni cotto na manalo ay dahil sa laki lamang. oo laki lamang, sa laki dahil sa mga huling laban nya ilang ulit narin syang nakaramdam ng hilo sa ring laban sa mas maliit na kalaban. ano pa sa isang "gifted puncher" maganda ang magiging laban ni pacman sa nov. 14, maaring tanong ng marami kung kaya bang tumanggap ni pacquiao ng mas mabigat na suntok mula sa mas malaking tao, subalit hindi pa bumagsak si pacquiao sa mga mas malaking kalaban, habang ang tanong kay cotto tatagal ba sya sa isang "gifted puncher', minsan na syang lumaban sa mga boksingerong malakas sumontok at nakita na ang resulta. malinaw na sya mismo ay may kahinaan sa malalakas sumuntok. abangan... Baka sobra na mismatch si manny kay margarito kahit may catchwieght, baka no deal kay roach Pacman: 30 yrs Margarito: 31 yrsPacman: Light Welterweight 140 lb (63.5 kg) Margarito : Welterweight 147 lb (66.7 kg)Pacman: southpaw Margarito: orthodoxPacman: 5'6 1/2" (169 cm) Margarito: 5' 11" (180cm)Pacman: 67" (170cm) reach Margarito: 73" (185cm) reach Si Oscar:36yrs 5' 10 1/2" height at 73" (185cm) reach , kaya lang mas bata si margarito Quote Link to comment
KingCrab777 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 bros, we need links to the live web casts again. please share when you can. mga few hours before fight time lumabas yung mga working links dati. GO PACMAN!!!!!!!! COTTO-HIN MO SI COTTO!!!!!!!! HAYAAN MO MGA POLITIKO. GAGASTOS NANAMAN NG PERA NG BAYAN MGA HINAYUPAK NA YAN PARA PUMUNTA DYAN AT BIBILI PA MILYON PISONG TIKET!! MGA HALANG KALULUWA MGA YAN!!! NASUSUNOG NA SA IMPYERNO MGA KALULUWA NILA PATI NA RIN BUONG ANGKAN NILA!!!!! Quote Link to comment
federicuger Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ang bangis ni manny! Kumanta ng ballad sa Jimmy kimmel show! :cool: Quote Link to comment
tom_babauta Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Pacman's new bus! :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
federicuger Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 10 days 16 hours 30 minutes remaining before rumble time! Pacman on Jimmy Kimmel part 1 part 2 Quote Link to comment
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