PacMan's Corner

[The_Blade]

I think Dyan Castillejo should stick to Sports Unlimited, and Ronnie Nathanielsz should stick to Japeth Aguilar like a monkey on a tree.

 

 

agree... putsa hindi sports commentators ang dating. parang mga baliw na fans... wow ng wow! puro mali mali sinasabi nila... langya..

[SevenZeroFive]

may joke nanaman na kumakalat.

 

pareho daw na si barristain at jmm na umiinom ng sariling ihi. ang problema nagkapalit ng baso si barristain at jmm :cool:

 

 

kaya daw natalo si jmm kay gayweather dahil ang nainom nyang ihi ay ihi ng matanda :upside:

 

Haha, kakaibang "Old Man Strength" yung nakuha ni Stalker. Strength ng baho!

[don juan casanova]

Are you talking of Pacquiao or Mayweather?

 

Mayweather bro

Edited September 21, 2009 by don juan casanova

[Za09]

agree... putsa hindi sports commentators ang dating. parang mga baliw na fans... wow ng wow! puro mali mali sinasabi nila... langya..

 

Oo kakahiya! baket naman si Dyan ang kinuha anu alam nun sa boxing? sa fitness and health or wheat grass nalang siya. anyway Mayweather is a scary ass f#&king skilled fighter very defensive and precise with his punches. Love this boxer or hate him he's one of the greatest boxer ever.

Edited September 21, 2009 by Za09

[tom_babauta]

Bet on it: Manny Pacquiao will be next to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr.

 

With his engaging smile and handsome face, Oscar De La Hoya exudes the aura of a gifted salesman, a top producer.

 

It has served him well as he has built his company, Golden Boy Promotions, into a major force in the boxing business since its inception eight years ago.

 

This was a tough sell, though.

 

De La Hoya was trying to convince an assemblage of irascible boxing types late Saturday night at the MGM Grand that Shane Mosley, rather than Manny Pacquiao, would make a better opponent for Floyd Mayweather Jr. in Mayweather’s next fight.

 

De La Hoya knew he was pushing for Mosley only because Mosley is a member in good standing of the Golden Boy stable. The crowd knew it. De La Hoya knew the crowd knew it, and the crowd knew De La Hoya knew the crowd knew it.

 

The poker table was filled with professionals and everyone saw the bluff developing.

 

Nevertheless, De La Hoya gave it a shot.

 

“Mosley has a strong case, let me tell you,” De La Hoya said, clearly struggling for words to back up his assertion, repeating the same phrase but stressing a different syllable each time. “Mosley has a strong case. Mosley has a very strong case.”

 

He sounded like one of those concert emcees at Shea Stadium in 1965 given the thankless task of hyping the appearance of Sounds Incorporated when the crowd was obviously wired up to see the Beatles.

 

De La Hoya’s pitch was greeted by a confused silence and then a couple of catcalls, until someone politely suggested that Pacquiao would present a more desirable match.

 

After all, during Mayweather’s hiatus of nearly two years from boxing, Pacquiao claimed the consensus if mythical title of best active boxer in the world at any weight.

 

Mayweather regained the distinction with a brilliant performance in his 12-round dismantling, a near shutout, of Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday at the Grand Garden Arena.

 

Prediction: Team Golden Boy’s lobbying notwithstanding, Mayweather-Pacquiao will be made. Negotiations will be hard and marked by all manner of posturing and name-calling. The proposed fight will be supposedly “on,” then “off again,” then “back on,” and this cycle will repeat two or three times. We’ve seen this show before. The promoters will inform us repeatedly that the lucrative fight “transcends boxing,” whatever that means. But it will be made.

 

Mayweather, despite intense questioning — he accurately pointed out that he was being asked the same thing over and over again in various ways — did not address his next fight. About the Pacquiao-Miguel Cotto fight scheduled for Nov. 14 at the MGM Grand, Mayweather said only that he hopes the best man wins.

 

His father, Floyd Mayweather Sr., cast his vote for a fight with Pacquiao over Mosley, though he thinks his son would win either fight handily.

 

“Mosley just wants a big payday, and Floyd shouldn’t give him one,” Mayweather Sr. said. “I want him to fight Pacquiao. Floyd can definitely whoop Mosley. Pacquiao? He’s probably even easier. He’s not in Floyd’s league.”

 

Although their relationship has been contentious in the past, father and son embraced in the ring just before Little Floyd went to work on Marquez (50-5-1).

 

“I gave him some good words of wisdom in there,” said Mayweather Sr., evoking the memory of Michael Jackson by sporting a showy military-style jacket on fight night. “I wanted him to protect himself, to keep his hands up, to win. I just wanted to give him some fatherly advice.”

 

Much has been made, with good reason, of Mayweather’s lopsided advantage in the punch statistics and on the official scorecards, where he won 120-107, 119-108 and 118-109. (I found it in my heart to award Marquez one round and had it 119-108.)

 

Just as impressive were the nuances in Mayweather’s execution, the way he controlled the ring and took Marquez out of his game — a difficult assignment Mayweather made look effortless. In his first fight since December 2007, Mayweather enhanced his reputation as a thinking fan’s fighter, someone best appreciated by those who enjoy the finer points of the sport: defense, the art of elusion, tactical maneuvering.

 

Loyal to the end, Marquez’s supporters filled the arena with cheers on every attempt by their man to put together a flurry of punches. More often than not, though, Mayweather picked off shot after shot thrown by Marquez, like the Japanese monster Grogan swatting down a fighter jet on the old SCTV sketch. The defining image of the fight might be a frowning Marquez fan posing for a photo in the lobby afterward, looking downcast but defiantly holding up a Mexican flag with Marquez’s name spelled out on it in silver lettering.

 

“He was trying to go to the body, but when I am in the ring I can see every shot that is coming,” Mayweather (40-0) said.

 

Mayweather went off as a minus 350 betting favorite (risk $3.50 to net $1) at the MGM on Saturday after a late line move toward the underdog. In betting odds updated Sunday at all Lucky’s sports books in Nevada, Mayweather is listed as a minus 170 favorite against Pacquiao and as a minus 300 favorite against Mosley.

 

Mayweather Sr. saw at least a little room for improvement in his son’s dominant showing Saturday and expects him to be sharper in his next fight — a sobering assessment for either Pacquiao or Mosley.

 

“Rust means a lot,” Mayweather Sr. said. “I don’t care what anybody says. You ain’t fought in two years and you fight again, it’s going to feel different. If Floyd had never took time off, he would have stopped him. He would have been in fighting shape, no rust.

 

“He wasn’t rusty like completely gone. But he didn’t let his hands go. If he did, you would have seen a different ending to the fight. You would have seen a stoppage.”

[tom_babauta]

Purse may derail Pacquiao bout with Mayweather

 

 

Only one thing could prevent a Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Manny Pacquiao fight from happening – a disagreement on the purse split.

This early, the boxing world is looking at a big clash between the two pound-for-pound champions, one that could easily land as the fight of the decade.

It could happen next year, in the latter part perhaps, and yet, again, this early, how the Big Apple is to be divided between the two camps is the big question.

Mayweather, it seems, will ask for a bigger share if and when negotiations for a Pacquiao fight begins. And Bob Arum of Top Rank will certainly look the other way in favor of Pacquiao.

Arum, a couple of months back, described Mayweather as “delusional” if the comebacking ex-pound-for-pound champion who beat a smaller Juan Manuel Marquez thinks he deserves more than Pacquiao.

Mayweather’s adviser, Frank Ellerbe, had hinted that they won’t take a 50-50 split.

“It seems like there’s a lot of things working against this fight ever happening,” Pacquiao’s chief trainer, Freddie Roach, told Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times yesterday.

“It makes sense. It’d be a great fight, but it seems there’s a lot of distractions around it. I don’t think it’s going to happen,” said Roach.

While ticket sales for the Mayweather-Marquez fight weren’t as great, Golden Boy’s Richard Schaefer and Team Mayweather, according to the LA Times, are looking at a million pay-per-view buys.

Something that would exceed the 900,000 buys for the Pacquiao-Ricky Hatton fight last May.

“Floyd will have all the leverage if that’s the number. Love him or hate him, he’s the biggest name in the sport, and the biggest revenue stream doesn’t come from the Philippines. The US is the capital of boxing, and Floyd Mayweather is the president of the capital,” Schaefer was quoted as saying.

“If Arum says 50-50 is fair, it probably isn’t,” Schaefer also said.

[BrokenArrow]

Dapat wag pumayag si Pacquiao kung lamang si Mayweather sa hatian. Si Pacquiao ang sikat ngayon di si Mayweather

[royginald]

Ang hirap hindi kampihan ang ating kababayan.. pero mahirap ding i-sawalang bahala ang galing ni Mayweather..

 

but if fate allows them to fight ...PACMAN pa rin ako.. (or TAYO!)

 

 

. . .

[federicuger]

The list provided by and compiled by Ring Magazine (thering-online.com) are listed from Top placement to the 10th placement. You can Check out the Top fighters for each division for the period ending September 20, 2009.

 

For Period Ended September 20, 2009

POUND-FOR-POUND Top 10

1. MANNY PACQUIAO

JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT

2. FLOYD MAYWEATHER

WELTERWEIGHT

3. SHANE MOSLEY

WELTERWEIGHT

4. BERNARD HOPKINS

LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT

5. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ

LIGHTWEIGHT

6. ISRAEL VAZQUEZ

FEATHERWEIGHT

7. RAFAEL MARQUEZ

FEATHERWEIGHT

8. NONITO DONAIRE

JUNIOR BANTAMWEIGHT

9. MIGUEL COTTO

WELTERWEIGHT

10. CELESTINO CABALLERO

JUNIOR FEATHERWEIGHT.

Edited September 22, 2009 by federicuger

[RED2018]

Am sure at the back of Roach's mind. he sees Mayweather a tough nut to crack for Pacman. But true to his reputation, he sure can devise plans to beat the Weightcheater...

 

It's a blessing in disguise that Mayweather was able to display what ha can do to a lighter opponent. But Pacman is totally a different 'animal' a mortal Mayweather will face.

 

Ingat lang Pacman!!!

[Guest megalodon]

Mayweather bro

Pare, remember that Pacquiao's recent opponents had problems dealing with his speed and lateral movement. In a battle of speed, I'd pick Pacquiao over Mayweather. Marquez became slower when he went up in weight unlike Pacquiao who is comfy at welterweight.

Edited September 22, 2009 by megalodon

[tom_babauta]

Roach belittles Floyd

 

 

There was one guy out there who was hardly moved by Floyd Mayweather’s masterful beating of Juan Manuel Marquez over the weekend at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

“Mayweather beat the best lightweight in the world,” said top trainer Freddie Roach, who didn’t even bother to watch the 12-round bout on pay-per-view, insisting that he knew what was going to happen.

“That’s exactly what happened,” said Roach, referring to the lopsided victory posted by Mayweather over the relatively smaller and much slower Mexican.

A noted observer of the fight game, Pacquiao conditioning coach Alex Ariza, said there was no way Mayweather was light when he answered the bell for Marquez.

“He was 158 (or even) 160 lbs),” said Ariza, stressing that even if Mayweather was three divisions heavier, “he couldn’t knock Marquez out.”

Ariza said that while Mayweather was hardly challenged by Marquez and Pacquiao went through rough times with Marquez, it doesn’t follow that Mayweather is going to pick Pacquiao apart.

“It’s different and you can’t compare,” said Ariza.

Ariza said the Mayweather-Marquez bout was a product of “poor matchmaking.”

Meanwhile, Roach and Ariza will arrive at 5:55 a.m. on Tuesday on board a Philippine Airlines flight from Los Angeles.

From Manila, Roach and Ariza will be brought to Baguio City so they could be there in time for Pacquiao’s afternoon workout at the Cooyeesan Hotel, where a well-equipped gym will play host to the fighter’s four weeks of training in preparation for the November 14 clash with Miguel Cotto of Puerto Rico.

[tom_babauta]

Marquez: Pacquiao does better than I did against Mayweather

 

Juan Manuel Marquez has a liquidity problem and it’s not related to his urine.

No, in the wake of losing 12 out of 12 rounds against a sometimes dazzling Floyd Mayweather Saturday night, the Mexican counter puncher’s obvious problem is he is still drinking promoter Golden Boy’s Kool Aid.

Why else would Juan Ma be babbling about fighting the Manny Pacquiao destroyed Ricky Hatton, a “punched ticket” who keeps talking as though he is retired, next?

I can’t say I feel sorry for Marquez because, as I wrote, he made his deal with the devils and took down at least $3 million for his trouble. But I do empathize with his new situation.

Face facts, he and Pacman will never engage in a third bout. These two trains are headed in different directions and running on different tracks.

I can also understand JMM not returning to 135 pounds so I guess the rest of his fading career will be at 140 pounds.

At least Marquez showed some independent thinking in speaking to HBO’s Jim Lampley, an interview the figher apparently initiated by going over to the broadcast position.

Asked how Pacman would do against the hand and foot speed of Mayweather, Marquez made sense.

“He’d do better,” Marquez said. “Manny is a guy who attacks and Mayweather is one who uses defensive techniques.”

Point well taken from a Hall Of Famer whose accomplishments were based or opponents to make mistakes and then quickly capitalizing on them.

But Marquez-Hatton? That smells like leftover meatloaf to me.

Maybe they can peddle it in the UK, I don’t know.

Maybe Juan Ma can stay at Mayweather’s house, the one he claims he is buying in England because the fans over there have shown him so much love and respect.

Marquez might like that warm British beer.

It might remind him of his training potions.

[tom_babauta]

Bos: If Cotto evades early dynamite, he beats Pacquiao

 

There’s no one, other than myself, whose boxing opinions I value more than that of legendary matchmaker Johnny Bos.

Add Bos to the growing list of ring experts who think that Manny Pacquaio’s ride of glory may get derailed by Miguel Cotto on Nov. 14.

Why does Bos’ voice matter? Because unlike, let’s say Manny Steward who was bucking to be hired as Cotto’s trainer, Bos has no agenda, no self interest in the fight between the Pinoy Idol and durable Puerto Rican.

To hear Bos tell it, there will be two fights and, if Cotto can survive early, his chances of victory will increase exponentially.

“I see Cotto’s danger period being the first two rounds. He can’t let Pacman explode on him quick like he was able to do against Ricky Hatton. I don’t put much stock in those victories over Hatton and de la Hoya because Ricky ruined himself with alcohol and Oscar was stupid in making the weight three weeks out from the fight date with Manny,” Bos said. “Cotto is a different type of animal as opposed to those two basket cases.

“If Miguel can be wary and careful for the first two rounds, then I think he will be in the fight all the way and can beat Pacquiao. Cotto is bigger and stronger if not quicker than. But he has to watch out for first or second round lightning by Manny.”

Through 40 plus years in boxing, Bos has pegged more than his share of upsets. Like all of us, he has also been dead wrong from time to time.

What alarms me and should alarm any Pacfan is that Bos’ sentiments seem to be sweeping through the ranks of American boxing guys who do know a left hook from a fish hook.

Cotto is a danger man, to use the British expression, for anyone.

Bos knows boxing.

Bos says Pacquiao is in peril after six minutes of action are tolled.

Maybe Pacquiao should redouble that regimen in Baguio.

Bos is not a guy who cries wolf.

[skitz]

PBF was OVERWEIGHT even at welterweight. Had to pay 600K USD as a fine. Marquez shouldn't have fought him with that kind of disadvantage. He hit PBF a couple of times, but had no effect. The guy was just too big. But MAN that DEFENSE was masterful. Boring, perhaps, but I kept thinking, how can PACMAN get through that defense? PBF protects his jaw with his shoulder. And was too fast on his feet.