PacMan's Corner

[julian69]

Five things we learned from Mayweather vs. Marquez

 

 

1. The concerns over Mayweather's ring rust were greatly exaggerated

Many thought the skills that have made Mayweather a surefire Hall of Famer -- the dazzling reflexes, precise counter-punching ability and preternatural ring instincts -- might suffer from the 21-month layoff. But Floyd appeared sharp from jump street, landing 18 of 31 punches (58 percent) in the first round, compared to just 4 of 52 for Marquez (8 percent). It set a harsh tone: Marquez landed in single digits in every subsequent round. Dinamita just could never figure out a way to get into the fight. It got ugly by the end. Mayweather outlanded his outclassed opponent 34-4 in the 10th and 41-5 in the 11th, prompting Golden Boy's Eric Gomez to beg Marquez's corner to throw in the towel. But Marquez managed to finish with dignity -- con caracter -- remaining on his feet until the final bell rang.

 

2. Size and speed weren't Floyd's only advantages

Mayweather controlled the early rounds with the left jab, using his reach advantage to keep Marquez at a distance. But Floyd also throws a left that looks like a jab but turns into a hook mid-punch. It's a power punch. And once the opponent starts moving backwards, as Marquez did early on, Floyd can land it at will. Those hurt Marquez. After that, it was a steady diet of right-hand leads and more left jabs. We'd heard so much about Marquez's ability to make mid-fight adjustments, but it was Mayweather who impressed the boxing cognoscenti with his fistic acumen.

 

3. The promoters earned their paychecks on this one

The announcement of Marquez as the opponent for Mayweather's comeback fight was met with considerable surprise and skepticism back in May. What chance did the longtime featherweight champion, who'd fought just twice above 130 pounds, stand against an opponent most comfortable at welterweight?

 

Despite the critics, the combination of Marquez's Hall-of-Fame pedigree and consensus No. 2-standing in the pound-for-pound rankings (along with a slick promotional campaign, which included another four-part 24/7 series on HBO) made believers of us all. Not that Marquez would or even could win, but that he'd push Mayweather in a cagey, competitive fight. Yeah, right. This one was a mismatch from the start.

 

4. Weight classes exist for a reason ... and a good one

It's one of the oldest axioms in boxing lore: A good big man will always beat a good little man. Most of the time, anyway. Manny Pacquiao turned the conventional wisdom on its ear with victories over De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton, putting the truism to the test. Make no mistake: Marquez is a bona fide Hall of Famer, a champion in three divisions. But it was obvious from the opening rounds that Marquez was simply unable to hurt Mayweather. Even following the flash knockdown in the second round, when Marquez walked right into a left hook, he seemed content to fight in the center of the ring -- a fatal mistake. The eight or nine powerful shots Marquez was able to land seemed to slip right off Mayweather's cheeks, inducing toothy grins from the cocksure American. Transcendent talents like Pacquiao are once-in-a-generation exceptions to the rule: Saturday's fight gave fans a sobering (and expensive) reminder of the raison d'etre of weight classes.

 

5. The countdown to Mayweather-Pacquiao can begin

The specter of a showdown between Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao -- the former and current pound-for-pound champions -- hung over this fight before it was even made. It should finally happen next year (presuming Pacquiao gets through Miguel Cotto on Nov. 14), and it'll be a great one. Unlike the fatally flawed Marquez, Pacquiao is a small guy who can carry his punch up to welterweight. (Just ask De La Hoya.)

 

But many boxing fans are itching to see Mayweather pick on someone his own size. One attractive candidate is welterweight titlist Shane Mosley, who went Kanye West during Mayweather's televised post-fight interview with HBO's Max Kellerman and called Floyd out. The exchange left Mayweather flustered and Kellerman shook -- judging by the microphone trembling in his hand -- and probably did little to help Mosley secure the high-profile megafight he's deserved since January's lopsided stoppage of Antonio Margarito. As things stand, look for Mayweather to fight the Pacquiao-Cotto winner in 2010.

[SevenZeroFive]

at least walang greeting portion sina dyan at ronnie

 

Haha, and walang nagbanggit ng tuna from gensan

[don juan casanova]

Well my heart is on Manny P. but Floyd is a scary f#&king fighter how can you beat a guy that you can't hit...

Edited September 20, 2009 by don juan casanova

[Za09]

This will be a great fight offense vs defense who will win?

[deathsaurer]

Haha, and walang nagbanggit ng tuna from gensan

 

 

and no gay color comments ala john "sweet" lapuz (are you hearing me quinito & chiino?)

 

LOL

[Eddy Syet]

ewan ko ba

 

si Dyan Castillejo napaka-tanga, si Ronnie Nathanielsz feeling know it all sa boxing...

 

Tawa ako nang tawa kay Dyan nung laban ni Michael Katsidis (undercard sa FM-JMM fight). Paulit-ulit niyang sinabi sa laban na gusto ni Katsidis na lumaban sa Pinas or something to that effect. Siguro inulit-ulit niya yun sa loob ng 5 rounds. Nakakapikon makinig. Buti na lang exciting lumaban si Katsidis.

[jerzz]

Mayweather easily beats Marquez because the latter is a counter puncher and does not possesed a great offensive skills.

 

Floyd has more difficulty with Dela Hoya and Hatton who has more offensive skills.

 

Pacman is different animal, he has plenty of offensive skills and has NO FEAR which is the opposite of PBF.

 

Floyd has little power, he could not even knock out a lightweight, having said that, Freddie Roach is still on the money that Floyd is the weakest and easiest to beat among the 3 (Mosley & Cotto the other 2). Had it been Cotto or Mosley, JMM will surely get KO in the second round.

 

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If the Pacman can get past Cotto, Mayweather is no threat to him.

[Guest megalodon]

how can you beat a guy that you can't hit...

Are you talking of Pacquiao or Mayweather?

[izzpine]

hmmm... boring na boxer c mayweather...

[skitz]

PBF was trully impressive in that last fight (vs Marquez). I still hate his guts, but this MOFO is the real deal. Marquez looked liked a bumbling fool in the ring. And PBF made him look like that.

Edited September 21, 2009 by skitz

[chicboy18]

FMJ and JMM had a pretty boring fight. The truth is, no one wants to watch it that's why they made it look that FMJ suffered a rib injury but in reality the ticket sales was having an injury. 2 counter punchers sluggin it out, Roach said it best. It's gonna be a boring fight. But if it's gonna be money vs. manny, it's gonna be a classic match. A power puncher vs a counter puncher is the best matchup in boxing. I just hope manny wins over cotto with a knock down to hype the money vs. manny fight.

[ixnay]

...and Pretty Broke Floyd felt he was disrespected, and who does he take it out on?! Poor, innocent, Max Kellerman. F*cking douchebag. Max talks too much, Floyd? Eh kung panoorin mo kaya muna sarili mo no.

 

About the commentators, what happened to Sev Sarmienta getting the call for these kind of fights? Dapat yan, sa stable ng commentators ng ABS-CBN Sports si Sev, Boom Gonzales or si Bill Velasco and some boxing analyst other than Ronnie Nathanielsz. Makuha nila si Mike Ochosa pwede na.

 

I think Dyan Castillejo should stick to Sports Unlimited, and Ronnie Nathanielsz should stick to Japeth Aguilar like a monkey on a tree.

 

poor max indeed!.. a real a**hoLe in gayweather was seen in int'L Tv!.. he was just afraid that sugar & bernard will take it to him if he would'nt shut up!.. just cant believe when he said that max kellerman talks aLot!.. haha.. pretttyboy Loud mouth just went nuts being bombarded by questions from the picking of the his opponent to the penalty on the weight issue...

 

good thing is that i was able to watch the match on cable and was spared from hearing dyan castillejo & ronnie nathanielz "what on earth are they talking about!?.." comments!.. :upside:

[roaddog z]

As we all know boxing is a business. I'm sure Arum would do anything to get a Floyd/Pacman megafight

for next year. Even if Cotto loses he could always fight Shane for his WBA welterweight belt for some bucks. :upside:

[anatoly]

Manny has developed lateral movements (side to side) which he didn't have when he fought Marquez twice. As Roach said, if Manny duked it out with Marquez now, Marquez would get knocked out. As I said, Marquez was a sitting duck and was easy to hit. Roach again was on the money when he picked Gayweather to win on points. Gayweather would have to deal with MP's lateral movements which would make Pacman difficult to hit. No offense taken dude. That's your take. You're entitled to it.

that was some pretty good insight, im looking forward to seeing this lateral movement when puckyaw faces cotto, he's really going to need it to avoid the power of cotto.

[uaeboy25]

may joke nanaman na kumakalat.

 

pareho daw na si barristain at jmm na umiinom ng sariling ihi. ang problema nagkapalit ng baso si barristain at jmm :cool:

 

 

kaya daw natalo si jmm kay gayweather dahil ang nainom nyang ihi ay ihi ng matanda :upside: