dragonei Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 With all due respect dragonei, marquez fought and beat joel casamayor and juan diaz respectively. And they're no patsies either. Manny just needs to dispatch this marquez pest for good if they indeed square off again.. Gesture of respect appreciated The point I am driving at here is that manny had better quality opponents than marquez had. Manny's fights are all ppv success to compared to the fights that marquez had. And finally, its marquez that needs manny not the other way around. Marquez got himself knocked down 4 times by manny. If In fact, if the scoring was done correctly in the first fight, manny would have already won. If this was an amatuer boxing match, then hands down marquez is the winner. Quote Link to comment
uaeboy25 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 manny pacquiao's last three fight vs david diaz- also a light wieght champion, who will forget him, sya ang tumalo kay erik morales. sabi ni emanuel stewart ng hbo, pinakamabagal daw na nakita nyang boxer si David Diaz, pero ang tanong sinong boxer ang makakatagal na sa 1st 3rounds palang binutas na ang pagmumukha na tulad ni diaz. maswerte pa sya hindi tulad ni hatton. kung sa 1st 3 rounds basag na ang mukha ni diaz expect mo mabagal na diaz ang mapapanood natin, just like pacquiao-morales 1, un na ata ang pianakamabagal na pacquiao ang napanood ko. vs dela hoya- (defeated 17 world champions and has won 10 world titles in six different weight classes) kalokohan ung sabi nila na oldies na si dela hoya, kung hindi tumagal si delahoya at hanggang 8 rounds lang, gurang na rin kaya si hatton na 2 rounds lang? absolutely nasa condition si golden boy. preparado lang si pacman at alam nya ang dapat nyang gawin. hindi nya macorner si pacman katulad ng ginagawa nya kay floyd, just watch floyd jr vs delahoya. but this strategic moves didnt succeed in pacman vs delahoya. vs hatton- (two-time IBF and IBO light welterweight, Ring Magazine Junior Welterweight Champion #10 p4p), hatton displayed his natural brawler style of boxing. but pacman want to shut the skeptics, and he used only two rounds to dismantle hatton. kay marquez last 3 fights vs pacquiao- ( five world titles in five different weight divisions. IBO and Ring Magazine Light Welterweight champion and is rated by the Ring Magazine as the #1 pound-for-pound boxer in the world). During that time sinabi na ni roach na un pacquiao vs marquesz 2 ang last fight ni pacquiao sa super featherwieght. dahil hirap ng magbaba ng timbang si pacman. during marquez vs pacman 2, kapansin pansin ang mabagal na pacman, laging si marquez ang nag iinitiate ng unang suntok. closed ang laban, pero ung 3round knockdown kay marquez ang nag split ng panalo para kay pacman. vs casamayor (WBA Super Featherweight Champion, WBC Lightweight Champion, The Ring Lightweight champion) ang totoo sa 1st 6rounds lamang si casamayor, naputukan sa kilay si casamayor nung 6th rounds, and nung 11 rounds nakasungkit sya ng Ko mula sa counter punch. pero kung natapos ang round ng hindi bumagsak si casamayor, either draw or panalo si casamayor. vs Diaz (former unified WBA & WBO and IBF world lightweight champion), nung natalo sya kay campbell lumabas ang mga weakness nya, na ginamit ni marquez. anyway kahit former champion si diaz alam ng lahat na mananalo si marquez, Diaz is not ready to take marquez, bata at nag aaral pa ang top student sa college nya. Sabi nga ni Diaz ngaun mas matindi na ang focus nya ngaun sa boxing. sa mga talo ng 2 kilalang boksengero, si pacman ay natalo kay torecampo nung kabataan pa nya, habang ung isang talo nya dun sa isang thailander ay bunga rin ng pagbabawas nya ng timbang, habang dun kay morales ay resulta ng accidental headbut, na naging dahilan ng mabagal at nabawasan ang punching power ni pacman. habang kay marquez natalo sya kay pacman(na naver nya naknockdown si pacman sa 2meetings nila)natalo sya kay Chris John(sino sya? wehehe) featherwieght champ na si marquez nun, at dahil hindi nanalo si jmm natanggal sya sa p4p list. marquez will face the newly unretired and mtach bigger floyd, marquez has an advantage, matalo sya wala syang masasabi, malaking pera at syempre mas malaki si floyd, manalo sya chance nya makarematch si pacman. malaking pera sa huling natitirang taon ng career nya. yes, last year sa career nya. just watch his last 2 match. to na ang pinakamabagal na marquez, while sa last 2match ni pacquiao, it seems to be pacquiao developed another skills. pacquiao still waiting for the decision ni bob arum, either moseley or cotto, so pacquiao will add another boxing title in his name. those 2 guys will be bigger than pacquiao. sabi nga ni pacquiao "i will fight anybody, my job is to fight and my promoter is to select my opponent" si bob arum ang mag aayos kung sino ang kakalabanin ni pacman. in general marquez maybe a talented boxer, pero pacman is better than marquez, unquestionable un. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 manny pacquiao's last three fight vs david diaz- also a light wieght champion, who will forget him, sya ang tumalo kay erik morales. sabi ni emanuel stewart ng hbo, pinakamabagal daw na nakita nyang boxer si David Diaz, pero ang tanong sinong boxer ang makakatagal na sa 1st 3rounds palang binutas na ang pagmumukha na tulad ni diaz. maswerte pa sya hindi tulad ni hatton. kung sa 1st 3 rounds basag na ang mukha ni diaz expect mo mabagal na diaz ang mapapanood natin, just like pacquiao-morales 1, un na ata ang pianakamabagal na pacquiao ang napanood ko. vs dela hoya- (defeated 17 world champions and has won 10 world titles in six different weight classes) kalokohan ung sabi nila na oldies na si dela hoya, kung hindi tumagal si delahoya at hanggang 8 rounds lang, gurang na rin kaya si hatton na 2 rounds lang? absolutely nasa condition si golden boy. preparado lang si pacman at alam nya ang dapat nyang gawin. hindi nya macorner si pacman katulad ng ginagawa nya kay floyd, just watch floyd jr vs delahoya. but this strategic moves didnt succeed in pacman vs delahoya. vs hatton- (two-time IBF and IBO light welterweight, Ring Magazine Junior Welterweight Champion #10 p4p), hatton displayed his natural brawler style of boxing. but pacman want to shut the skeptics, and he used only two rounds to dismantle hatton. kay marquez last 3 fights vs pacquiao- ( five world titles in five different weight divisions. IBO and Ring Magazine Light Welterweight champion and is rated by the Ring Magazine as the #1 pound-for-pound boxer in the world). During that time sinabi na ni roach na un pacquiao vs marquesz 2 ang last fight ni pacquiao sa super featherwieght. dahil hirap ng magbaba ng timbang si pacman. during marquez vs pacman 2, kapansin pansin ang mabagal na pacman, laging si marquez ang nag iinitiate ng unang suntok. closed ang laban, pero ung 3round knockdown kay marquez ang nag split ng panalo para kay pacman. vs casamayor (WBA Super Featherweight Champion, WBC Lightweight Champion, The Ring Lightweight champion) ang totoo sa 1st 6rounds lamang si casamayor, naputukan sa kilay si casamayor nung 6th rounds, and nung 11 rounds nakasungkit sya ng Ko mula sa counter punch. pero kung natapos ang round ng hindi bumagsak si casamayor, either draw or panalo si casamayor. vs Diaz (former unified WBA & WBO and IBF world lightweight champion), nung natalo sya kay campbell lumabas ang mga weakness nya, na ginamit ni marquez. anyway kahit former champion si diaz alam ng lahat na mananalo si marquez, Diaz is not ready to take marquez, bata at nag aaral pa ang top student sa college nya. Sabi nga ni Diaz ngaun mas matindi na ang focus nya ngaun sa boxing. sa mga talo ng 2 kilalang boksengero, si pacman ay natalo kay torecampo nung kabataan pa nya, habang ung isang talo nya dun sa isang thailander ay bunga rin ng pagbabawas nya ng timbang, habang dun kay morales ay resulta ng accidental headbut, na naging dahilan ng mabagal at nabawasan ang punching power ni pacman. habang kay marquez natalo sya kay pacman(na naver nya naknockdown si pacman sa 2meetings nila)natalo sya kay Chris John(sino sya? wehehe) featherwieght champ na si marquez nun, at dahil hindi nanalo si jmm natanggal sya sa p4p list. marquez will face the newly unretired and mtach bigger floyd, marquez has an advantage, matalo sya wala syang masasabi, malaking pera at syempre mas malaki si floyd, manalo sya chance nya makarematch si pacman. malaking pera sa huling natitirang taon ng career nya. yes, last year sa career nya. just watch his last 2 match. to na ang pinakamabagal na marquez, while sa last 2match ni pacquiao, it seems to be pacquiao developed another skills. pacquiao still waiting for the decision ni bob arum, either moseley or cotto, so pacquiao will add another boxing title in his name. those 2 guys will be bigger than pacquiao. sabi nga ni pacquiao "i will fight anybody, my job is to fight and my promoter is to select my opponent" si bob arum ang mag aayos kung sino ang kakalabanin ni pacman. in general marquez maybe a talented boxer, pero pacman is better than marquez, unquestionable un. Mismo! Quote Link to comment
fattyacid Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 If PBF wins over JMM, then MP/PBF should materialize. If JMM wins however, MP should target Mosley then Cotto. Forget JMM unles at least 80/20 ang split. :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
ixnay Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) I still believe that he should face cotto first.. nalalakihan kc ako kay mosley eh. the heck!... as manny would say "I will fight anyone, anywhere.. you know!...!' ahehehe Edited May 20, 2009 by ixnay Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Mismatch masyado moseley pacquiao, maliban na lang kung baba si mosely on sa 143, pero kahit sa 147 hirap na din si moseley sa timbang. Kung kay cotto naman, pwede na siguro, this will be another shot at manny to get a world title. Magiging 6 time world champion na siya gaya ni Oscar de la Hoya..... Er 7 kung isasali mo yung unang laban kay barrera Quote Link to comment
uaeboy25 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Mismatch masyado moseley pacquiao, maliban na lang kung baba si mosely on sa 143, pero kahit sa 147 hirap na din si moseley sa timbang. Kung kay cotto naman, pwede na siguro, this will be another shot at manny to get a world title. Magiging 6 time world champion na siya gaya ni Oscar de la Hoya..... Er 7 kung isasali mo yung unang laban kay barrera i stop i thinking about mismatch, kasi 2years ago only larry merchant believed in pacman vs dela hoya or hatton or mayweather. daming nagreact sa ganung propose ni sir larry. negative reaction na parang sinasabing masyadong malaki sina delahoya, hatton at mayweather sa small frame ni pacman. somebody has a harsh reaction, they even said baka daw mauwi sa pagkabalda ni pacman ang laban nya kay dela hoya. but once we see the result, its way different. i think moseley and cotto has a chance of meeting pacman. once na nanalo si pacman either cotto or moseley, he is now challenging henry armstrong's capacity, who denied weight and sizes of his opponent, no matter who they are and how big they are. im interested to see pacquiao fighting bigger guys. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 i stop i thinking about mismatch, kasi 2years ago only larry merchant believed in pacman vs dela hoya or hatton or mayweather. daming nagreact sa ganung propose ni sir larry. negative reaction na parang sinasabing masyadong malaki sina delahoya, hatton at mayweather sa small frame ni pacman. somebody has a harsh reaction, they even said baka daw mauwi sa pagkabalda ni pacman ang laban nya kay dela hoya. but once we see the result, its way different. i think moseley and cotto has a chance of meeting pacman. once na nanalo si pacman either cotto or moseley, he is now challenging henry armstrong's capacity, who denied weight and sizes of his opponent, no matter who they are and how big they are. im interested to see pacquiao fighting bigger guys. Yes, point well taken, and of course we would love to see a small guy beat up bigger guys. Yes his demolition of de la hoya was outstanding. I placed my money on manny on that fight because of the belief that speed most of the time wins over power. But lets also see the playing field leveled. What would have happened if Manny fought de la hoya on the superwelterweight or middle weight division? Do you think he would have performed equally outstanding? If he were to fight a guy like moseley who was more or less a natural middleweight (heck this guy can size up to chad dawson), let it be in a weight category where the bigger guy would have more size advantage. Thats the purpose of heaving catch weights, to somehow level the field. Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 eto panoorin nyo si Uglyboy sa interview... huli na papalusot pa. Mayweather vs. Kenny Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 ^^^^ Hahaha, good link djrs Hahahahaha! OMG Floyd is afraid of Manny halatang halata he is avoiding the subject. Nililihis nya issue. So he hasnt been beaten, big f#&king, deal now we know why. Because floyd wont fight a fighter he knows he cant beat. He pussied out on cotto, now he is being a pussy in manny pacquiao. Di nga sinagot kung bakit di si Pacquiao nilabanan nya. Hahahaha PBF= Pussy Boy Faggot Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 What a real fraud, if manny was such an easy to beat opponent, why doesnt he want to square off with him? Why did he not wait for the winner of pacquaio hatton? Its obvious from that interview that fraud mayweather was avoid the pacquiao subject. Talagang takot siya ayaw nya labanan si pacquiao. Di ako magugulat kung pagkatapos ng marquez fight, babalik ulit sa retirement. This guy retired when a rematch between him and de la hoya was on the works, and before they could match him up with cotto. Tsaka what is the big deal with an undefeated record? Out of the handful of boxers who retired undefeated (less than 10 I think excluding calzaghe), Marciano is the only name that comes into mind. Yet Marciano would not even come close to the legacies of Ali, Frazier, Louis. Heck Even Tyson was a bigger name in the sport than Marciano. And I also doubt it, if calazaghe will come close to the legacies of Jones Jr. and Hopkins, though he both defeated this guys. Before Jones, and before hopkins, who did this guy fight? He waited for both fighters to be past their primes before crossing the ocean. I dare Mayweather to call out Manny Pacquiaos name after the marquez fight (assuming that he wins) Quote Link to comment
uaeboy25 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 nde nagretire si marciano para lang hindi matalo. never syang umiwas sa kalaban. unlike gayweather, sus ayaw nya kay bob arum, eh hindi naman si bob arum ang makakasuntukan nya. ayaw nya kay bob arum kasi wala na syang makakatas sa bilbil ni bob. gayweather talaga. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 nde nagretire si marciano para lang hindi matalo. never syang umiwas sa kalaban. unlike gayweather, sus ayaw nya kay bob arum, eh hindi naman si bob arum ang makakasuntukan nya. ayaw nya kay bob arum kasi wala na syang makakatas sa bilbil ni bob. gayweather talaga. Well you are right about marciano. But come to think, even though he beat Joe Louis, Louis was still the bigger fighter between the two of them in the history of the sport. Its not just about winning every fight you get yourself into, its also about fighting guys who could fight you back. Mayweather handpicked opponents who could least likely fight him back. Besides look at the way he fights, he is afraid to take punches. In fact he avoids being in a fight. Boxing analyst are sick of mayweather, and I will bet my rent money they are praying for someone like pacquiao to permanently shut mayweather up permanently Quote Link to comment
Guest megalodon Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 What a real fraud, if manny was such an easy to beat opponent, why doesnt he want to square off with him? Why did he not wait for the winner of pacquaio hatton? Its obvious from that interview that fraud mayweather was avoid the pacquiao subject. Talagang takot siya ayaw nya labanan si pacquiao. Di ako magugulat kung pagkatapos ng marquez fight, babalik ulit sa retirement. This guy retired when a rematch between him and de la hoya was on the works, and before they could match him up with cotto. Tsaka what is the big deal with an undefeated record? Out of the handful of boxers who retired undefeated (less than 10 I think excluding calzaghe), Marciano is the only name that comes into mind. Yet Marciano would not even come close to the legacies of Ali, Frazier, Louis. Heck Even Tyson was a bigger name in the sport than Marciano. And I also doubt it, if calazaghe will come close to the legacies of Jones Jr. and Hopkins, though he both defeated this guys. Before Jones, and before hopkins, who did this guy fight? He waited for both fighters to be past their primes before crossing the ocean. I dare Mayweather to call out Manny Pacquiaos name after the marquez fight (assuming that he wins)I don't think he'd have the guts to call out manny's name even after he clobbers marquez. if he wanted to, he would have done so after manny made shortwork of the briton. Quote Link to comment
uaeboy25 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 well, kung mananalo si pacman either kay cotto or moseley, mas malaki ang chance na hindi nga lumaban si gayweather kay pacman. once na naikasa ang laban ni pacman either kay moseley or cotto, im sure hindi aatras ang ating kababayan. and this makes us proud. kumabaga sa aso kahit maliit, hindi naman duwag. once na manalo si pacman, pacman will be the greatest boxer of the decade, while gayweather is the greatest joke of the decade.wehehe. Quote Link to comment
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