catlover Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Sometimes I dont like to discuss the Pacquiao - delahoya fight kasi baka mapaaway lang ako sa mga utak talangka. Ayoko lang patulan kasi itong ateneo high school student na sobrang colonial mag isip dahil walang kabilib bilib sa ginawa ni pacquiao. Luto daw ; kagagawan daw ng sindikato. So instead of telling him that Delahoya doesnt have to "dance with the music of the sindikato" because of the huge sum of money he's gonna get even if he loses, I blurted out sarcastically," Hindi ka kasi Pilipino." Kelan kaya matututo ang Pilipinong maniwala sa kanyang kababayan? Hindi ba pwede nating bigyan ng benefit of the doubt that Pacquiao won fair and square in that bout? Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 ^^^ Well parang yun second fight ni Sonny Liston and Muhammad Ali ah. Well to be fair about ODLH, I think he would have beaten pacquiao if he was 5 or maybe 7 years younger. During his prime Manny would not stand a chance. But the way I see it. Ganyan naman talaga boxing eh. Great boxers like tyson, lennox, and even ali beat great fighters who were already going out of their prime. In fact no one stays at the top forever. its a matter of how long you could stay at the top. But eventually, when you become weaker, you get beaten and another boxer takes over. Kesa kasi sabihin natin luto yung laban, bakit di na lang natin sabihin na at that fight mas malakas at mas mabilis si Pacquiao kesa kay golden boy. Dethroned na si Delahoya, and its a pacquiao era now Quote Link to comment
solicitor Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Am still not convince!!! I still think that the fight was a sham!!!Dela Hoya allowed himself to be beaten into a pulp for more money....He will still be the promoter for Hatton in his next 2 fights and allowing pacquiao to win will also add hype to the Haton-Pacquaio fight..What a disgrace!!! Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 so whats next? pacman vs hatton or mayweatheroscar dela hoya vs julio cesar chavez jr (revenge of the son) Quote Link to comment
ixnay Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 so whats next? pacman vs hatton or mayweatheroscar dela hoya vs julio cesar chavez jr (revenge of the son) LoLz on ODLH vs Chavez Jr. its possible that bob arum is cooking a march 2009 playdate for pacman vs hitman Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Am still not convince!!! I still think that the fight was a sham!!!Dela Hoya allowed himself to be beaten into a pulp for more money....He will still be the promoter for Hatton in his next 2 fights and allowing pacquiao to win will also add hype to the Haton-Pacquaio fight..What a disgrace!!! Man, I just do not see how someone like Oscar would benefit from loosing the fight. 1.) He has more money than manny has. He is the highest paid boxer of all time and a successful promoter. Why would he risk embarassing himself like that to make a quick buck. Actually he does not need to be on the ring to make money, all he has to do is promote good fights. 2.) Even if pacquiao lost the match, I do not think the hype about pacquiao-hatton woould change. People want to see that match. And as soon as there is a demand for such fights, win or loose, it will still generate income 3.) Its easy to criticize if you are watching the fight from your TV set. When you are not the one who has to dehydrate your body to make wieght at the age of 35. When you are not the one taking punches so hard that you can barely open your left eye, and you are fighting a left handed opponent. When you are in front of an opponent that has blazing speed you can't even figure out which hand his gona hit you with. When your game plan is all wrong, if all that does not frustrate you enough for your corner to stop the fight, I do not know what will. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Hehehe in other news, Mayweather is already expressing his interest to fight pacquiao. Now this is the dream match pound for pound against pound for pound. Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Man, I just do not see how someone like Oscar would benefit from loosing the fight. 1.) He has more money than manny has. He is the highest paid boxer of all time and a successful promoter. Why would he risk embarassing himself like that to make a quick buck. Actually he does not need to be on the ring to make money, all he has to do is promote good fights. 2.) Even if pacquiao lost the match, I do not think the hype about pacquiao-hatton woould change. People want to see that match. And as soon as there is a demand for such fights, win or loose, it will still generate income 3.) Its easy to criticize if you are watching the fight from your TV set. When you are not the one who has to dehydrate your body to make wieght at the age of 35. When you are not the one taking punches so hard that you can barely open your left eye, and you are fighting a left handed opponent. When you are in front of an opponent that has blazing speed you can't even figure out which hand his gona hit you with. When your game plan is all wrong, if all that does not frustrate you enough for your corner to stop the fight, I do not know what will. indeed brother... Dela Hoya is one of the most successful boxer in his prime and losing to a fighter that is 2 div. lighter than him would change his legacy. Money is not a factor in this said fight for Dela Hoya since he's the one who giveway to a 65-35 split that is supposed to be just 20-80. If he wants money like most of the guys here said, then i think he'll just promote fights in that case, his credibility as a good fighter will remain while eraning tremendous amount of money. Quote Link to comment
omega_jef Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 pag nangyari eto mga sinaryo, o lalabas na comments: 1. if natuloy, sigurado bugog si pacquiao kay mayweather2. mananalo si pacquiao kasi laos na si mayweather at walang practice3. mananalo si pacquiao at sasabihin luto4. talo si pacquiao, kapal kasi ng mukha pera lang ang hinabol basta ako manonood, masaya ako na napanood ko ang isang pacquiao sa era ko. Quote Link to comment
GODzilla Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 wow! one week later and still the talk of the town. im amazed how people still cant accept the fact that manny won. Crab Mentality is still very much alive in the Philippines. I suggest you watch the fight again so you could just see how good manny is and how helpless DLH was. Surely, you cant blame him for his success because he worked hard for it and he risks his life in every fight. Its really sad that its only here in the Phils. where there is talk of any foulplay to think na wala namang pumusta dito sa las vegas. Haay, such is life! Anyway, the next fight is definitely against Hatton and then followed by Money Mayweather. These are the most marketable opponents for him although personally i want to see him fight Valero because it is sure to end in a knockout. Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 if you have real knowledge in boxing then you will know why oscar seldom throw punches. boxers natural instinct when taking rellentless punches is to be at defensive stance or else he will be knocked out. watch the fight again closely and you will see how hard oscar had been taking mannys power punches. there are 3 occassions when he's about to fall. did you ever noticed how oscar gets hitted everytime he tries to brawl manny? i think its not fair to say that the fight was fixed or oscar lets himself be beaten for money. manny is the better fighter with superb and really excellent fighting techniques. he is by far and proven the best boxer of this era. kudos to pacman. im so honored and proud to be mannys kababayan. mabuhay pilipinas!! indeed. how can you throw punches kung yung kalaban mo is aggressive like pacman... and hindi style ni Dela Hoya yung sugod lng ng sugod. Quote Link to comment
SilentStriker Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 indeed. how can you throw punches kung yung kalaban mo is aggressive like pacman... and hindi style ni Dela Hoya yung sugod lng ng sugod. Most people don't give much importance to the fact that Manny took his blistering speed and added more power to his punches kaya di makasuntok si Dela Hoya. If Dela Hoya wasn't hurt with Pacquiao's lead left, he would've countered, just like he did when caught with Mayweather's shot in their last bout. A fighter cannot simply counter or box when hurt. So, it's unfair to say that it was fixed. We must all remember that Pacquiao basically moved up 3 weight divisions to fight Dela Hoya and is expected to not even hurt a man who fought as high as middelweight. Alot of people are now eating crow for choosing Dela Hoya. Hehehe. Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Haynaku... to the doubters, did you even watch the Pacman vs. Barrera fight 1? Pacman had no chance (according to the experts). MAB was a living legend. But Pacman totally outclassed the fool. Everytime MAB tried to punch Pacman, he ate leather instead. So dominating was Pacman that his corner had to save Barera from further humiliation. And remember, this was the PEAK of MAB's career. Pacman was just an up and coming fighter who lost his championship because he couldn't make weight. So what was so surprising about duplicating that feat against an over-the-hill ODLH? Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Most people don't give much importance to the fact that Manny took his blistering speed and added more power to his punches kaya di makasuntok si Dela Hoya. If Dela Hoya wasn't hurt with Pacquiao's lead left, he would've countered, just like he did when caught with Mayweather's shot in their last bout. A fighter cannot simply counter or box when hurt. So, it's unfair to say that it was fixed. We must all remember that Pacquiao basically moved up 3 weight divisions to fight Dela Hoya and is expected to not even hurt a man who fought as high as middelweight. Alot of people are now eating crow for choosing Dela Hoya. Hehehe. some people just can't face the truth that PacMan won. It's as simple as that. Maybe there are some factors on how Dela Hoya can't even throw punches but one thing's for sure... He was hurt by that left hook by PacMan. Quote Link to comment
mrpinoi Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 i think kahit labanan ni manny si hatton,jmm saka si mayweather nang sabay sabay at si manny ang nanalo meron pa ring magrereklamo sasabihin eh gago pala yung tatlo nilabanan si manny nang sabay sabay sila dapat isa isa lang, ewan sa inyo.... Quote Link to comment
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