bubuy Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) mejo lumalala na ang pagka-banlag ni manny, he needs all the pennies he can get.. err, that didnt sound right.. Edited January 13, 2009 by bubuy Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 mejo lumalala na ang pagka-banlag ni manny, he needs all the pennies he can get.. err, that didnt sound right.. ============================================================================== Di naman. He's the world's pound for pound boxing king, so he has the right to bid sa hatian. Hatton was defeated by Mayweather so his chips are down na. Manny has beaten them, practically, all na. In reality, its still business and, parang employee sa isang opisina, you know your worth, why not ask for additional pay? Kundi yung sweldo mo, with all your worthiness, magiging kasing (50-50) pareho lang ng lowly, incompetent employee. The higher one assume his status, the higher siyempre his share of the pie. Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 sayang talaga.. pero thats business.. lagi nalang si pacman ang nasa baba kasi. Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 ============================================================================== Di naman. He's the world's pound for pound boxing king, so he has the right to bid sa hatian. Hatton was defeated by Mayweather so his chips are down na. Manny has beaten them, practically, all na. In reality, its still business and, parang employee sa isang opisina, you know your worth, why not ask for additional pay? Kundi yung sweldo mo, with all your worthiness, magiging kasing (50-50) pareho lang ng lowly, incompetent employee. The higher one assume his status, the higher siyempre his share of the pie. that's not the point. the point here is Bob Arum was OK w/ a 50/50 split. i mean, if your promoter agreed on something then go out there and train for the fight. hindi ba yun nman ang lagi nyang bukang bibig na " i let my promoter handle that, im just a fighter. you know..." tpos eto siya na mag dedemand? WTF? Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 baka ploy lang ni manny para umiwas sa laban. tutal he has an upcoming movie with Sylvester Stallone. what more could he ask for? Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 that's not the point. the point here is Bob Arum was OK w/ a 50/50 split. i mean, if your promoter agreed on something then go out there and train for the fight. hindi ba yun nman ang lagi nyang bukang bibig na " i let my promoter handle that, im just a fighter. you know..." tpos eto siya na mag dedemand? WTF? Kahit promoter si Arum at boxer si Manny may say parin ang BOXER.... wala ka na magagawa dun dahil alam na ni Manny ang Business sa Boxing... Hindi naman si Arum ang Mabubugbog e.... saka kahit sinabi ni manny na he is just the boxer.. sa match making lang yun or sa pag hanap ng kalaban para kay arum... pero sa negotiation ng bayaran wala sinabi si MP na bahala na si ARUM dun... ang linaw na nga ng sinabi ni MP BAHALA NA SI ARUM kung sino makakalaban pero... walang sinabi si manny na BAHALA na si ARUM kung ano magiging hatian.. ehhehehe. Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Besides Hatton, the only other boxer who can give Pacman atleast $15M is Mayweather Other options might be only $5M or lower. Available Option : Mayweather, Valero, Sotto, Casamayor, Judah and so on Not available because of upcoming fight : Juan Marquez, Juan Diaz, Nate Campbell, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito and so on. I guess dapat wag na lang masyadong maghangad si Pacman baka lalo lumiit kita niya kung di makukuha si Mayweather. Maybe a 55/45 split would be agreeable for both parties. Pero bahala na daw si Arum dito Arum, meanwhile is also trying to secure Manny Pacquiao’s next fight, which is likely to occur on May 2nd against junior welterweight champ Ricky Hatton at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. “We’re still finalizing it,” Arum said. “Pacquiao went back to the Philippines and now wants more money but we’ll handle that. I’ve been through that before,” he said. Asked if disputes between Top Rank and Hatton promoter Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy could be holding up the super fight, Arum said it wasn’t the case. “It’s not about Schaefer and it’s not about me. You can’t put yourself or your company at the forefront of these negotiations.” Edited January 14, 2009 by jerzz Quote Link to comment
anton7270me Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 baka ploy lang ni manny para umiwas sa laban. tutal he has an upcoming movie with Sylvester Stallone. what more could he ask for? Umiwas sa laban? Pre naman para kang nagtatampo nyan sa bigas at ang baba naman ng tingen mo sa kalahe mo. :thumbsdownsmiley: Nagpapalake lang siguro ng bentahe - natural naman yan + Hype factor pa ..... in the end tuloy yan kase marami na ding schedule. Lowest $10M din sa dito kung sakali man 50/50 - ......... sa tingen ko 55/45 payag na yan! :hypocritesmiley: Bukas or ngayon yata ang deadline ni PAC pra magdecide. Goodluck !!! :evil: Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Kahit promoter si Arum at boxer si Manny may say parin ang BOXER.... wala ka na magagawa dun dahil alam na ni Manny ang Business sa Boxing... Hindi naman si Arum ang Mabubugbog e.... saka kahit sinabi ni manny na he is just the boxer.. sa match making lang yun or sa pag hanap ng kalaban para kay arum... pero sa negotiation ng bayaran wala sinabi si MP na bahala na si ARUM dun... ang linaw na nga ng sinabi ni MP BAHALA NA SI ARUM kung sino makakalaban pero... walang sinabi si manny na BAHALA na si ARUM kung ano magiging hatian.. ehhehehe. so you mean hindi man lng siya nasabihan ni Arum na ok na siya for the 50-50 split sa purse? sabi mo nga alam ni PacMan ang business sa boxing pero bakit huli na ata yung mga demands niya kung kelan ilalatag na lng yung contract tska siya nagbigay ng mga demands niya... napaka unprofessional nman ata yun. OK na yung promoter mo tpos hindi pa pala OK sau. Bkit kaya hindi na lng sya magtayo ng sarili niyang promotions tutal hindi na nman pla niya kelangan si Arum. and besides, Arum dont decide kung sino makakalaban niya... kasama din siya sa pag decide nun. Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 so you mean hindi man lng siya nasabihan ni Arum na ok na siya for the 50-50 split sa purse? sabi mo nga alam ni PacMan ang business sa boxing pero bakit huli na ata yung mga demands niya kung kelan ilalatag na lng yung contract tska siya nagbigay ng mga demands niya... napaka unprofessional nman ata yun. OK na yung promoter mo tpos hindi pa pala OK sau. Bkit kaya hindi na lng sya magtayo ng sarili niyang promotions tutal hindi na nman pla niya kelangan si Arum. and besides, Arum dont decide kung sino makakalaban niya... kasama din siya sa pag decide nun. unprofessional? may pinirmahan na ba? hehehehe. ikaw na din nag sabi kasama din si pacman sa pag decide... hehehehehe.... relax ka lang di karin naman kikita e... hindi porke mas gusto ni pacman na sya mas mataas sa hatian unprofessional na sya.. garapal na sya.. dapat lang kay manny yan na mas mataas naman sya... dahil mas kilala si manny kesa kay hatton.... punta ka sa asia mag survey ka check mo kung sino mas sikat sa dalawa... punta ka sa america! at australia.. mas sikat si manny.. sa endorsement palang nya sa nike... sya nasa taas ngayon kaya dapat lang... sa oscar vs. pacman mas mataas kay oscar.. pero sino nanalo? si pacman... hehehehhe. sino mas malaki kinita? si Oscar! why? kasi mas sikat si oscar... at money maker talaga... syempre di ka magiging sikat sa boxing kung di ka magaling. Quote Link to comment
jjpaler Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Pacquiao is being advised by his lawyer, Franklin Gacal, who Roach refuses to speak to. “Bad guy,” Roach said. Gacal was quoted in the Filipino press as saying a 50-50 split is unfair to Pacquiao, who is coming off a monumental knockout of Oscar De La Hoya on Dec. 6 in Las Vegas. we're really talking of money here,com'on daddy roach show'em what u got. Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Umiwas sa laban? Pre naman para kang nagtatampo nyan sa bigas at ang baba naman ng tingen mo sa kalahe mo. :thumbsdownsmiley: Nagpapalake lang siguro ng bentahe - natural naman yan + Hype factor pa ..... in the end tuloy yan kase marami na ding schedule. Lowest $10M din sa dito kung sakali man 50/50 - ......... sa tingen ko 55/45 payag na yan! :hypocritesmiley: Bukas or ngayon yata ang deadline ni PAC pra magdecide. Goodluck !!! :evil: siempre vacation mode si pacman. pwede syang tinatamad na and just enjoy his wealth. yun din naman ang gusto ng family nya, na matikman nya ang narating nyang success. baka mamaya, isang tama lang sa ulo ni pacman, ma damage pa ang utak nya. that's just one side of the coin. di ko naman sinasabing baka natatakot si pacman lumaban ke hatton. alam ko naman di sya aatrasan ni pacman. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Ok guys, Come on strategy yan. Syempre di ka naman papayag sa unang offer. Magpapahard to get ka muna ng konti para tumaas ng konti ang figures. Kung baga sa tawaran siyempre kalahati from the original price itatawad mo then eventually you will meet half-way. Lets evaluate this objectively and dispassionately, 3 buwan kang nakadiet, di pwede sex, papandayin mo katawan mo sa training, tapos papabugbug ka pa, syempre naman kung pwede mo ihirit na mas malaki kitain mo di mo ba gagawin yun? Boxing is business too. Kaya nga noon ko pa sinasabi honor of a country has got nothing to do with this. It ain't exactly the olympics. Its entertainment. Manny is the star here, me karapatan naman siya magpresyo di ba sa hirap ng inabot nya para marating status nya. tsakadoesnt matter kung 40% lang makuha ni Hatton, Im sure it will be more lucrative for him than his last fight. Bob Arum is a veteran promoter, he should know how to handle this, we will leave that to him. Pero sa huli syempre si manny pa din magbibigay ng desisyon kung sino kakalabanin nya, di ang promoter nya o ang abugado nya. All they can do is make the deals for him. ========== But on the flip side huwag din sana maging masyadong sellout yung campo ni Manny. Kasi baka matulad siya kay Winky Wright na hangang ngayon walang kalaban na makuha dahil naginarte sa presyo. But then again Wright was not the pound for pound king at that time. So sa huli, matuloy man o hindi ang laban, hindi si Manny me kasalanan nito kundi yung mga negotiators nya. Syempre trabaho nila na siguraduhing maganda kikitain ni manny and to advice him about it. Pero the way I see it, matutuloy din laban, negotiating tactics lang ito. I just hope that manny's negotiators know what they are doing Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 People, its business strategy, that's all.....yung hatian. Give and take yan. Demanding more of the pie does not mean unprofessional na yung athlete. Syempre, aminin din natin, pera pa rin yan. Sayang din kapag madehado sa hatian. Its total business and we should all know the ins and outs of boxing negotiations. Now, kanina 11am, word came out from the Hatton camp that there was not negotiation breakdown. no truth to the rumours. So, that's it, the first one blinks.........you know what. No need to talk more. Basta both camps are just psyching each other kung sino ang unang kakalabit. Business is business and no talk about unprofessionalism when we talk of business. Now about Bernabe Concepcion......................................hehehe Quote Link to comment
Gideon Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 For me, medyo wala ng sense of HONOR ang Boxing... "PERA PERA nalang" Sana bumalik yung sense na "kakalabanin ko ito dahil sya next kong kakalabanin", hindi yung "kakalabanin ko ito dahil kahit talo ako malaki ang kikitain ko" Yung sharing ng profits talagang grabe na, hindi pa panalo eh malaki na ang share, paano kung matalo??? Malaki pa din ba??? Quote Link to comment
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