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for me the fight w/cotto is the final breath before the big plunge....... for me manny is picking up the welta division in the right time..........cotto will be the acid test kung kaya nya nga talaga sumalo ng suntok ng isang totoong welterweight ala ng argumento sa speed nya we have seen it at delagay and fatton isa na lang talaga yung durability ng chin nya sa welter.........if he ever na manalo si pacman( na i do hope and pray so ) emphatically well ders no way na mapipigilan natin ang gayfeather vs emmanuel pacquiao....... ive seen manny sa blow by blow pa lang i have a chance to watch him sa mandaluyong ata yun under blow by blow iba talaga si manny pag determinado ilalabas nya talaga lahat ng galing nya para manalo lang sa laro.... kaya yan si gayfeather na yan ingat ingat sya wag sya papakasigurado sa shoulderheadroll kasi si manny meron head and shoulder hahahahaha.....napansin ko si gayfeather hanggang 3 combinations lang si manny pede magpakawala ng 8 up to 10 suntok(literally) sa volume ng mga suntok ni manny masusungalngal din yan si gayfeather at for sure di na ngiting kabayo yan pag tinamaan ni pacman..... in the end of the day if ever na matuloy ang laban ni pbf at manny at eventually manalo si manny baka maiyak ako sa tuwa tulad ng mga diehard fan ng soccer we they see deyr team win or lose......at sana manalo si manny kay cotto kasi si cotto is no pushover!!!!!!!!

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ang pangit ng laban ni jmm vs gayweather, tatlong suntok sabay atras. kaya naman nung napatumba ni gayweather si jmm wala ng kasunod. habang si manny halos maknockdown sa ibang round si jmm. one more thing dehydrated pa si pacquiao sa pagpapababa ng timbang nung time na un. ang mas komportable si jmm sa lightweight or featherwieght. sa statistics marami pa din ang naniniwala na mas magaling si pacman kay gayweather.

 

ang pangit ng laban ni jmm vs gayweather, tatlong suntok sabay atras. kaya naman nung napatumba ni gayweather si jmm wala ng kasunod. habang si manny halos maknockdown sa ibang round si jmm. one more thing dehydrated pa si pacquiao sa pagpapababa ng timbang nung time na un. ang mas komportable si jmm sa lightweight or featherwieght. sa statistics marami pa din ang naniniwala na mas magaling si pacman kay gayweather.

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Yep, mahihirapan si Manny if ever lalabanan niya si Mayweather, but I hope Manny would whoop the living sh#t out of Mayweather. I was watching some of the fights that PBF had online, and we gotta give to him, he's got skills defensively. But when I watched Manny's vids, I was thinking that, Manny can definitely defeat PBF.

I'm no boxing analyst, just a plain generic boxing fan, but I THINK that Manny can match PBF's speed, power and gulang, and I think that PBF would be shocked once he get to experience Manny's hand speed, throwing punches from different direction. Manny was like a kanto-boy fighting style that thinks and moves like a boxer. Man, I wish Manny could mess up PBF's face, in a bloody way just like what happened to Diaz. He'd be like, Pretty Boy-No-More Mayweather :lol:

 

Anyways, this is just an insight being one of Manny's fan. Hope Manny will win over Cotto!

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PACMAN being able to withstand punches specially against BIGGER opponents still has to be proven ... he was never " fully tested" in his battle against Diaz, Dela Hoya and Hatton. These guys hardly landed a solid blow.

 

 

 

 

Not too quick on this one ... YES Floyd and Pacman both had their individual battle with Oscar but under different circumstances. When Floyed faced Dela Joya @ 154 the former have to go up in weight. This Dela Joya then was at his comfort zone in terms of weight so to speak. Floyd who is not really known to be a great knockout artist had difficulty knocking Oscar out and settled for a decision. On the other hand Oscar need to go down to 147 vs Pacman. As we probably all know it is easier to gain weight than to loose weight. As such, this really took its toll on Oscar when he fought Manny. He was just too weak during fight night.

 

My view here is that at 147 lbs Floyed will be stronger that Pacman but at the same time he could match up with Manny's speed therefore Floyd will have an advantage. There is also the reach advantage making it more difficult for MAnny to come close and hit the target.

 

Against Juan Marquez the fight was supposed to be at 144 lbs but Floyd weight in at 146 then came in at around 160 ... we saw the results.

i agree 100%. couldn't have said it any better :)

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floyd can be knockdown, and even both floyd and pacquiao can be knockdown. madaling magpabigat pero makikita ang resulta ng mabilisang pagpapataas ng timbang. tulad ng ginawa ni marquez, mula sa lightweight at biglang welterweight at ang masakit bigla pa nyang nilabanan si gayweather. sana lumaban muna sya sa natalo ni mayweather bago niya nilabanan si mayweather. sa hbo 24/7 pinansin ni trainer barristain ang pagbagal ng galaw ni jmm. tama ang ginawa ni pacquiao. sa pagpasok nya ng bigla sa lightweight nilabanan nya si diaz. totoong sa mga lighweight champs si david diaz ang pinakamahina kumpara kay casamayor at juan diaz. pero tamang desisyon yon, champion si pacman, at champion din si diaz. habang si jmm nilabanan nga si casamayor at juan diaz pero umasa na lang sa knockdown. ang totoo kung umabot sa 12round ang laban ni jmm kay juan diaz at casamayor maaring matalo pa sya. hindi nya naisip yun. na paano kung hindi nya maknockdown si floyd. sa case ni pacquiao pagkatapos nya kumuha ng buwelo kay david diaz nasure nya na kaya pa nyang magdagdag ng timbangtionable. maaring questionable ang status ni delahoya sa laban nila ni pacquiao. pero ang resulta ng laban ni hatton at pacquiao, hindi questionable ang status ni hatton during his fight kay pacquiao. hatton even become better kung papanoorin ang laban nya kay malinaggi. Kaya totoo ang sabi ni roach. as of now nasa peak si pacquiao.

 

back to floyd, manalo o matalo si pacman kay cotto madami ang intresadong mapanood ang paghaharap si floyd at pacquiao. masyado kasing maraming contrast sa pagitan ni floyd at pacquiao. kasama na dito ang boxing skills. defensiv si gayweather at si pacquiao naman is offensive. simppleng paliwanag kung bakit mas madaming naipatama kay pacquiao si marquez kumpara sa naipatama ni jmm kay floyd. pero tulad ng sabi ng boxing analyst. exciting boxer si pacquiao, he can bring storm to the defensive wall of floyd.

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the form mayweather showed during his last bout surely knocked pacquiao's corner out.

 

d nila lalabanan si mayweather. he's just too fast, too big and too smart for manny.

 

manny's corner knows this for sure and gagawin nila lahat wag lang labanan si floyd jr.

 

magaling pumili ng laban, pag kaya nila, laban. pag hindi, iwas.

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if panalo si pacman kay cotto, sa march 15, 2010 ang date ng Pacman vs Mayweather

 

ang problema ay yung hatian nila sa pera

 

both parties will not agree on a 50-50 sharing

 

so if hindi muna matuloy, baka mangyari ay Mayweather vs Mosley and Pacman vs Bradley

 

saka uli sila mag-negotiate sa Pacman vs Mayweather if manalo sila sa mga laban nila

 

In my opinion the only fighter around who can beat both Pacman and Mayweather is Paul "the Punisher" Williams

 

Mayweather will avoid Williams as much as possible and Pacman even if he wants to fight Williams,

 

it will be too much of a mis-match/dis-advantage for the Pacman, Williams is 6'3", fast feet and with hands as fast

 

as the Pacman and has no problem moving up and down in weight class

 

Ang alam ko, camp ni Mayweather ang ayaw pumayag ng 50-50 na hatian.

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Ang alam ko, camp ni Mayweather ang ayaw pumayag ng 50-50 na hatian.

 

Ang camp ni Floyd ayaw sa 50-50

 

ang camp ni Pacman ayaw sa 50-50

 

Bob Arum, ceo ng Top Rank ang nag suggest na 50-50 para larga na ang laban

gagawin nila ni Koncz ay hypnotize nila si Pacman to agree to a 50-50 if agree din sila Floyd sa 50-50.

 

Baket ayaw ni Pacman ng 50-50?

 

-Siya ang true number 1/numero 1 sa Ring Magazine P4P

-Dahil sa performance niya sa last fights niya he should deserve more(vs marquez, vs diaz, vs oscar, vs hatton) lahat ng laban na ito he had to move up in weight.

-Dahil siya ang IBO light welterweight champion, Floyd vs Marquez ay non-title welterweight match (lightwieght champ pa din si Marquez kahit talo siya WBO champ at Ring Mag champ)

-Dahil siya ang may mas malaking Pay-Per-View Buys sa latest na fights nila dalawa (Pending pa ang results ng MayweatherMarquez PPV results, i-release Thursday U.S. time)

-Dahil kung matalo ni Pacman si Cotto si manny na rin ang WBO welterweight at IBO light welterweight. Ang tilte lang ni floyd ay number 2 sa Ring magazine P4P

 

 

Ito ang pinaglalaban ng camp ni Manny, siya ang top dog ng pro boxing now.

So if di sila magkasundo ay magkakaroon ng tune-up fights sila Manny at Floyd

Si Floyd vs Mosley and Manny vs Bradley, after ng matches nila i-compare nila ang performances nila at PPV Buys at based sa results ang negotiation ng Pacman vs Mayweather

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Ito ang pinaglalaban ng camp ni Manny, siya ang top dog ng pro boxing now.

So if di sila magkasundo ay magkakaroon ng tune-up fights sila Manny at Floyd

Si Floyd vs Mosley and Manny vs Bradley, after ng matches nila i-compare nila ang performances nila at PPV Buys at based sa results ang negotiation ng Pacman vs Mayweather

 

Floyd will not fight Mosley either, malamang si Margarito or some lesser opponents. Thats just how he is.

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Cotto will weigh-in at 147lbs?

 

Buoyed by the recent lopsided victory of Goliath over David, backers of World Boxing Organization (WBO) junior welterweight champion Miguel Cotto (34-1, 27 KOs) have egged the 28-year-old native of Caguas, Puerto Rico to adopt the strategy employed by Team Mayweather Jr. when he squares off against boxing’s best boxer pound-for-pound Manny Pacquiao (49-3-2, 37 KOs) on November 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada.

 

Cotto will stake his belt when he collides with the 30-year-old Filipino reigning International Boxing Organization (IBO) light welterweight king in a “catch” weight: 144 pounds.

Since he appears to be slightly physically superior being a natural 147-pounder, some of Cotto’s backers thought he could overwhelm Pacquiao by using his size to buttress his force and ring prowess.

Analysts believed Floyd Mayweather Jr. was “too heavy” for hitherto lightweight campaigner Juan Manuel Marquez to handle, not to mention Mayweather’s natural talent and skills perfectly tailored for the welterweight class.

Cotto, however, will not be the first fighter to have breached the 140-pound level that Pacquiao will face.

In December last year, the four-time world titlist in four different weight divisions, brought down the biggest Goliath in fight business – Oscar De La Hoya – with a smashing 8th round technical knockout (TKO) win in Las Vegas.

And on May 2, this year, Pacquiao silenced the cynics when he tore to shreds in two brutal rounds another Goliath, Ricky “The Hitman” Hatton of Great Britain also in Las Vegas.

The three – De La Hoya, Hatton, and Cotto – sat comfortably for years carrying world boxing jewels in their heads above the 135-pound weight bracket where Pacquiao reigned with unmatched supremacy and ferocity at the same time as World Boxing Council (WBC) franchise holder.

 

PENALTY

 

Mayweather Jr. had reported to the weighing scale “over bloated” but was prepared to pay the $600,000 penalty in his 12-round September 19 conquest of Juan Manuel Marquez in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Mayweather has denied it was his “over” weight that tore to ribbons Marquez face even as he nearly made the gutsy “Mexicutioner” wipe the canvas with his face for good in the second stanza with a searing signature left hook.

Having survived what could have been an embarrassing trip to dreamland and stretched Mayweather to the limit, Marquez offered no excuses except to grumble that he was fighting a Goliath who outweighed him by as much as 20 pounds a day before the fight.

Marquez thought an upset win over Mayweather could bring him closer to a record fourth showdown against Pacquiao, the man he has been passionately chasing all the way from superfeatherweight to lightweight until his gallant effort was put to a screeching halt by the Mayweather Express.

Mayweather claimed there was no way for any visitor in his division to derail his comeback bid even after a 21-month layoff; he even refused to speculate on his next fight saying he is the one who is undefeated and, therefore, shouldn’t be the one to chase any marquee name.

Mayweather was referring to endorsements from matchmakers for him to next face Pacquiao, the successor of his “best boxer in the world pound-for-pound” honor.

If Pacquiao will successfully dismantle Cotto on Nov. 14, Mayweather cannot anymore avoid mentioning the Filipino’s name as his possible next opponent. After all, the Pacquiao-Cotto tussle had to be reset as originally scheduled after Mayweather’s camp sought for postponement of his fight against Marquez from July 17 to September 19.

 

The grapevine said both Mayweather and Pacquiao need tune-up fights against dangerous foes before the rich deal will be officially packaged in a multimillion duel in 2010.

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This match won't happen!

 

Have you seen how they (Golden Boy Promotions) started cooking up their forthcoming match (Mayweather vs. Mosley)? It will be announced at weigh in of the Pacquiao-Cotto match. Much like their stunt on the eve of the Pacquiao-Hatton match.

 

You see, Mayweather camp sees a brighter chance for their boy vs the aging Mosley. These are all 'practice' bouts for Mayweather as a prelude to the ultimate dream match past mid-year of 2010. Mayweather is in deep debt that his camp's moves should be calculated.

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the form mayweather showed during his last bout surely knocked pacquiao's corner out.

 

d nila lalabanan si mayweather. he's just too fast, too big and too smart for manny.

 

manny's corner knows this for sure and gagawin nila lahat wag lang labanan si floyd jr.

 

magaling pumili ng laban, pag kaya nila, laban. pag hindi, iwas.

 

 

to early to say... Gayweather wants the lionshare eventhough he is not the milking cow... Just to fast but no KO power... he got tagged by marquez just imagine kung kalaban ni Gayweather may KO power may tulog na yan..

 

kahit sa fight nya kay zab judah he Knockdown Gayweather pero nadulas lang at nagpabaya lang si Judah...

 

si hattong lang ang na KO nya later rounds pa...

 

yung comment mo baliktad ata? parang kay mayweather dapat ito:

 

magaling pumili ng laban, pag kaya nila, laban. pag hindi, iwas.

 

check your history first.

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I'd rather bet big that the fight will NOT happen, especially if Manny wins against Cotto. Mayweather quit without fighting risky ones, so why fight Manny? A tactic he will use is that he will need 60-40 or no fight at all.

Pwde?! Mlamang iiwas nga si Mayweather ky Manny! syang nman xe ung unbeaten record nya!!

Hehehehe!!!

Pro pg nanalo nman si Manny ky Cotto, bka mpressure xa n labanan n

tlaga si Pacman!!

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