j2xxx Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 its all about the reach! pacman can handle mayweather...pacman can withstand punches...i have never seen mayweather take hits on his face.. Quote Link to comment
chicboy18 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 mukang di talaga kaya ni pacquiao si mayweather masmabilis at masmalaki kasi sa kanyaI beg to disagree. The best basis for this is Oscar Dela Hoya himself. If you compare Manny's performance over Floyd's performance against Dela Hoya, you'll notice a big difference. It favors Manny by a long-shot. Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I do not like PBF. Hate his guts. But I'll tip my hat off to the man. Should Manny topple Cotto (which I hope he does in spectacular fashion), this one MEGA-FIGHT vs. PBF will be the ultimate test for Manny. Should he win, then YES, there is an argument to be made, he is ONE OF THE GREATEST FIGHTERS EVER (again IF he wins). Quote Link to comment
chicboy18 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I do not like PBF. Hate his guts. But I'll tip my hat off to the man. Should Manny topple Cotto (which I hope he does in spectacular fashion), this one MEGA-FIGHT vs. PBF will be the ultimate test for Manny. Should he win, then YES, there is an argument to be made, he is ONE OF THE GREATEST FIGHTERS EVER (again IF he wins).Just a thought: Which fight do you think will be more exciting? Pacquiao/Cotto or Mayweather/Cotto? Regardless of the fact that Pacquiao's the pound for pound king and PBF is the former pound for pound king. Quote Link to comment
peithe Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 its all about the reach! pacman can handle mayweather...pacman can withstand punches...i have never seen mayweather take hits on his face.. PACMAN being able to withstand punches specially against BIGGER opponents still has to be proven ... he was never " fully tested" in his battle against Diaz, Dela Hoya and Hatton. These guys hardly landed a solid blow. I beg to disagree. The best basis for this is Oscar Dela Hoya himself. If you compare Manny's performance over Floyd's performance against Dela Hoya, you'll notice a big difference. It favors Manny by a long-shot. Not too quick on this one ... YES Floyd and Pacman both had their individual battle with Oscar but under different circumstances. When Floyed faced Dela Joya @ 154 the former have to go up in weight. This Dela Joya then was at his comfort zone in terms of weight so to speak. Floyd who is not really known to be a great knockout artist had difficulty knocking Oscar out and settled for a decision. On the other hand Oscar need to go down to 147 vs Pacman. As we probably all know it is easier to gain weight than to loose weight. As such, this really took its toll on Oscar when he fought Manny. He was just too weak during fight night. My view here is that at 147 lbs Floyed will be stronger that Pacman but at the same time he could match up with Manny's speed therefore Floyd will have an advantage. There is also the reach advantage making it more difficult for MAnny to come close and hit the target. Against Juan Marquez the fight was supposed to be at 144 lbs but Floyd weight in at 146 then came in at around 160 ... we saw the results. Quote Link to comment
peithe Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 its all about the reach! pacman can handle mayweather...pacman can withstand punches...i have never seen mayweather take hits on his face.. PACMAN being able to withstand punches specially against BIGGER opponents still has to be proven ... he was never " fully tested" in his battle against Diaz, Dela Hoya and Hatton. These guys hardly landed a solid blow. I beg to disagree. The best basis for this is Oscar Dela Hoya himself. If you compare Manny's performance over Floyd's performance against Dela Hoya, you'll notice a big difference. It favors Manny by a long-shot. Not too quick on this one ... YES Floyd and Pacman both had their individual battle with Oscar but under different circumstances. When Floyed faced Dela Joya @ 154 the former have to go up in weight. This Dela Joya then was at his comfort zone in terms of weight so to speak. Floyd who is not really known to be a great knockout artist had difficulty knocking Oscar out and settled for a decision. On the other hand Oscar need to go down to 147 vs Pacman. As we probably all know it is easier to gain weight than to loose weight. As such, this really took its toll on Oscar when he fought Manny. He was just too weak during fight night. My view here is that at 147 lbs Floyed will be stronger that Pacman but at the same time he could match up with Manny's speed therefore Floyd will have an advantage. There is also the reach advantage making it more difficult for MAnny to come close and hit the target. Against Juan Marquez the fight was supposed to be at 144 lbs but Floyd weight in at 146 then came in at around 160 ... we saw the results. Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Just a thought: Which fight do you think will be more exciting? Pacquiao/Cotto or Mayweather/Cotto? Regardless of the fact that Pacquiao's the pound for pound king and PBF is the former pound for pound king. Manny is not only the pound for pound best fighter, he is also the ROUND FOR ROUND THE MOST EXCITING FIGHTER. Any fight with Pacquiao will be exciting. And this is where Mayweather loses a lot of the ticket-selling power -- he is DEFENSIVE (boring). Quote Link to comment
chicboy18 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Manny is not only the pound for pound best fighter, he is also the ROUND FOR ROUND THE MOST EXCITING FIGHTER. Any fight with Pacquiao will be exciting. And this is where Mayweather loses a lot of the ticket-selling power -- he is DEFENSIVE (boring).My thoughts exactly Quote Link to comment
chicboy18 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 PACMAN being able to withstand punches specially against BIGGER opponents still has to be proven ... he was never " fully tested" in his battle against Diaz, Dela Hoya and Hatton. These guys hardly landed a solid blow. Not too quick on this one ... YES Floyd and Pacman both had their individual battle with Oscar but under different circumstances. When Floyed faced Dela Joya @ 154 the former have to go up in weight. This Dela Joya then was at his comfort zone in terms of weight so to speak. Floyd who is not really known to be a great knockout artist had difficulty knocking Oscar out and settled for a decision. On the other hand Oscar need to go down to 147 vs Pacman. As we probably all know it is easier to gain weight than to loose weight. As such, this really took its toll on Oscar when he fought Manny. He was just too weak during fight night. My view here is that at 147 lbs Floyed will be stronger that Pacman but at the same time he could match up with Manny's speed therefore Floyd will have an advantage. There is also the reach advantage making it more difficult for MAnny to come close and hit the target. Against Juan Marquez the fight was supposed to be at 144 lbs but Floyd weight in at 146 then came in at around 160 ... we saw the results.Well yes you do have a point. A good one at that. I just made a comparative contradiction to the poster above. Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 It would be great kung m22loy ang Fight of the Century Pacman VS Moneyman but in real world of boxing impossible na mangyari due to the fact na both knew na number 1 sila pareho dhil d2 wlang papayag na mging dehado sa hatian. Gustuhin man natin mangyari ito... sa palagay ko sa Playstation or X-Box na lng natin sila pwedeng paglabanin hehehe... At kung m22loy man ito dadaan ito sa napakahabang proseso..... Ok nman kya ang kalalabasan ng training ni Pacquiao sa Baguio? Quote Link to comment
julian69 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 if panalo si pacman kay cotto, sa march 15, 2010 ang date ng Pacman vs Mayweather ang problema ay yung hatian nila sa pera both parties will not agree on a 50-50 sharing so if hindi muna matuloy, baka mangyari ay Mayweather vs Mosley and Pacman vs Bradley saka uli sila mag-negotiate sa Pacman vs Mayweather if manalo sila sa mga laban nila In my opinion the only fighter around who can beat both Pacman and Mayweather is Paul "the Punisher" Williams Mayweather will avoid Williams as much as possible and Pacman even if he wants to fight Williams, it will be too much of a mis-match/dis-advantage for the Pacman, Williams is 6'3", fast feet and with hands as fast as the Pacman and has no problem moving up and down in weight class Quote Link to comment
julian69 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) bibilib talaga ako kay Mayweather if labanan niya si Williams and kung labanan ni Pacman si Williams, Pacman will be greatest of the all time great boxers! Edited September 23, 2009 by julian69 Quote Link to comment
djlo Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 for me the fight w/cotto is the final breath before the big plunge....... for me manny is picking up the welta division in the right time..........cotto will be the acid test kung kaya nya nga talaga sumalo ng suntok ng isang totoong welterweight ala ng argumento sa speed nya we have seen it at delagay and fatton isa na lang talaga yung durability ng chin nya sa welter.........if he ever na manalo si pacman( na i do hope and pray so ) emphatically well ders no way na mapipigilan natin ang gayfeather vs emmanuel pacquiao....... ive seen manny sa blow by blow pa lang i have a chance to watch him sa mandaluyong ata yun under blow by blow iba talaga si manny pag determinado ilalabas nya talaga lahat ng galing nya para manalo lang sa laro.... kaya yan si gayfeather na yan ingat ingat sya wag sya papakasigurado sa shoulderheadroll kasi si manny meron head and shoulder hahahahaha.....napansin ko si gayfeather hanggang 3 combinations lang si manny pede magpakawala ng 8 up to 10 suntok(literally) sa volume ng mga suntok ni manny masusungalngal din yan si gayfeather at for sure di na ngiting kabayo yan pag tinamaan ni pacman..... in the end of the day if ever na matuloy ang laban ni pbf at manny at eventually manalo si manny baka maiyak ako sa tuwa tulad ng mga diehard fan ng soccer we they see deyr team win or lose......at sana manalo si manny kay cotto kasi si cotto is no pushover!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
uaeboy25 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 ang pangit ng laban ni jmm vs gayweather, tatlong suntok sabay atras. kaya naman nung napatumba ni gayweather si jmm wala ng kasunod. habang si manny halos maknockdown sa ibang round si jmm. one more thing dehydrated pa si pacquiao sa pagpapababa ng timbang nung time na un. ang mas komportable si jmm sa lightweight or featherwieght. sa statistics marami pa din ang naniniwala na mas magaling si pacman kay gayweather. ang pangit ng laban ni jmm vs gayweather, tatlong suntok sabay atras. kaya naman nung napatumba ni gayweather si jmm wala ng kasunod. habang si manny halos maknockdown sa ibang round si jmm. one more thing dehydrated pa si pacquiao sa pagpapababa ng timbang nung time na un. ang mas komportable si jmm sa lightweight or featherwieght. sa statistics marami pa din ang naniniwala na mas magaling si pacman kay gayweather. Quote Link to comment
ativan Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 for sure mahihirapan si pacman kay mayweather Quote Link to comment
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