dragonei Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 pinanood ko 2last bout ni jmm. mukhang bumagal sya at hindi sya bagay sa above 140. sa laban nila ni casamayor at diaz lagi syang talo sa scorcards, tyamba lang talaga sya umaasa. umaasa sya na ung counter punch nya makakadali ng knockdown. Yeah I agree, puro chamba lang mga knockout victories ni marquez. Puro nagkataon lang na napupuruhan nya kalaban. He could not knockdown Juarez, because Juarez was not too willing to trade. But if Juarez fought Manny, Im quite sure Manny would finish business and not leave it to the decsion In fact maswerte lang si JMM na yung 2nd bout nila ni MP ay nasa 130. A weight manny obviously was already very uncomfortable at that time. Prior to his fight with marquez, he fought marco antonio barrera at the same wieght class. Fight night manny weighed a whopping 151 pounds after he was rehydrated, kaya di napatumba si barrera. Same is the case with marquez. But if JMM would have fought him at 140 and above, Im sure he really would get knocked out. Marquez should really understand why he lost. If he wasnt eating power punches, if he dominated the fight by being more aggressive, then sana panalo siya. Ang pro boxing di lang naman yan paramihan ng suntok. Look at the Jones vs Trinidad fight, mas maraming natatangap na suntok si Jones, pero mas lagi naman nasasaktan at natutumba si Trinidad. The Mayweather vs De la Hoya fight was also controversial, because though ODLH was outboxed, he was obviously the one controlling the tempo of the fight. Mayweather kept backing and ducking away. That is why kahit mga commentator gulat na gulat nung lumabas decision in favor of Mayweather. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 PBF=ATG All time Gay PBF= Pretty boy faggotPBF= Pussy boy floyd. So he never blemished his record or face big deal! This is because he has a habit of ducking any opponent who have crucial advantages over him. He went into temporary retirement to duck the rematch between him and de la hoya (which he almost lost to), and miguel cotto. Inantay nya muna magretire si de la hoya, at magkaroon ng talo si cotto bago bumalik. Quote Link to comment
vermeer50 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 One of the four below will definitely defeat Manny. 1. Mayweather2. Marquez3. Cotto4. Mosley Why? Manny finds it difficult to fight against great counter punchers specially pag marunong maguppercut. Although marunong sya at ang team nyang magadjust sa kalaban e ano un sya lang ba ang marunong magadjust? Quote Link to comment
Great Milenko Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 dapat si Cotto na lang kalaban niya. Quote Link to comment
kleptome Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 One of the four below will definitely defeat Manny. 1. Mayweather2. Marquez3. Cotto4. Mosley Why? Manny finds it difficult to fight against great counter punchers specially pag marunong maguppercut. Although marunong sya at ang team nyang magadjust sa kalaban e ano un sya lang ba ang marunong magadjust? flame bait? ang tanong will they have the opportunity to face manny? Of the 4, ke Mosley lang ako mag 2nd thoughts, medyo malaks and mama talaga eh! dapat si Cotto na lang kalaban niya. Agree, exciting to pero gusto ko talaga malamog niya si Gayweather. Quote Link to comment
pogingpogi2x Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 One of the four below will definitely defeat Manny. 1. Mayweather2. Marquez3. Cotto4. Mosley Why? Manny finds it difficult to fight against great counter punchers specially pag marunong maguppercut. Although marunong sya at ang team nyang magadjust sa kalaban e ano un sya lang ba ang marunong magadjust? Lahat yan kaya ni Pacman, pera lang pag uusapan... Para sakin c Mayweather ang dpat mauna tapos magsama sila mag ama... Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 ^^^ Yep! if the manny este money is right, then bring it on. Manny does not duck nobody. As long as the price is right then bring em on. Manny will fight the fights the audience will pay for to see. The idea that manny is ducking marquez is ludicarous. Why does he need to duck a guy he knows he can floor (4 times that is)? Remember Manny took on a guy who was way too big for him, in a wieght class that is way above his league. Many analyst claimed that this was infact a mismatch since de la hoya had the reach and power advantage. But look how manny smoked him and gave the golden boy of boxing the most humble defeat of his career. And just when we thought he couldnt get better, he demolished the king of the 140 lbs division under 6 minutes. Hatton undeniably suffered the worst punishment from pacquiao. Now every respected boxing analyst said that Manny no longer needs to fight mayweather to establish his legacy. Even if mayweather never retired, Im sure manny would still take the pound for pound throne from him. So on his next bouts he calls the shot. Money in his favor or fight someone else. It gets me thinking, if valero recieved the kind of punishment hatton did? Im sure patay na siya sigurado. Bitak na bungo nya Quote Link to comment
uaeboy25 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 if i were manny pag natalo nya si gayweather isa isahin nya ung possible na makakalaban nya sa pound for pound list. jmm#2mosley#5cotto#6 once na nawalis nya lahat un sure ang pasok nya sa top 50 all time greatest. Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) I think hanggang 140lbs na lang si Manny, sabi naman niya duong timbang siya pinakamalakas. Medyo maliit na siya para sa 147lbs Kung lalabanan niya sila Mosley, Mayweather at Cotto dapat hanggang 143lbs lang. Si marquez malamang tulog din yan pag sa 140lbs --------------------------------------------------------------- Kung gusto niyang kumita muna ng limpak limpak, another easy fight is Edwin Valero. Baka 3 rounds din lang ito wala ding depensa. Edited May 8, 2009 by jerzz Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Kung gusto niyang kumita muna ng limpak limpak, another easy fight is Edwin Valero. Baka 3 rounds din lang ito wala ding depensa. Back then I thought this was such a good idea, but now I think I am having a lil change of heart. Kung inabot ni Valero inabot ni Hatton, Im sure comatose siya o baka patay na ngayon. Remember na hangang ngayon hindi makakuha ng clearance si Valero para lumaban sa Las vegas, hangang texas lang siya pwede. This is because of the motorcycle accident he was in, where he cracked his skull. In fact medyo blurry na din vision nya, you notice he has to wear eyeglasses time to time. The thing about boxers like valero is that he has to quickly finish fights to avoid taking punishment in the head for 12 rounds. He utilizes power not reflexes and speed. In fact observe his stance, he keeps a low guard, he has nothing defensively, laging naghahanap lang ng bwelo para mas malakas suntok. I personally would not want pacquiao to be remembered as the guy who killed someone in the ring. Anyway Manny does not need Valero. Si Amir Khan na lang pangarapin ni valero Quote Link to comment
kleptome Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 ^^^ Yep! if the manny este money is right, then bring it on. Manny does not duck nobody. As long as the price is right then bring em on. Manny will fight the fights the audience will pay for to see. The idea that manny is ducking marquez is ludicarous. Why does he need to duck a guy he knows he can floor (4 times that is)? Remember Manny took on a guy who was way too big for him, in a wieght class that is way above his league. Many analyst claimed that this was infact a mismatch since de la hoya had the reach and power advantage. But look how manny smoked him and gave the golden boy of boxing the most humble defeat of his career. And just when we thought he couldnt get better, he demolished the king of the 140 lbs division under 6 minutes. Hatton undeniably suffered the worst punishment from pacquiao. Now every respected boxing analyst said that Manny no longer needs to fight mayweather to establish his legacy. Even if mayweather never retired, Im sure manny would still take the pound for pound throne from him. So on his next bouts he calls the shot. Money in his favor or fight someone else. It gets me thinking, if valero recieved the kind of punishment hatton did? Im sure patay na siya sigurado. Bitak na bungo nya BUT Freddie Roach does. And for very valid reason, Why give Marquez the chance to fight Pacquiao? Thin Paycheck & he's a nobody! Let him chase our Filipino Pride! Quote Link to comment
mobidick Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 kung ako tatanungin gusto ko makalaban ni pacman si mayweather kasi pareho nila natalo mga kalaban nila oscar de lahoya at richky hatton so sila nalang dalawa natitira once in for all magkaalaman na kung sino talaga ang legitimate pound for pound king Quote Link to comment
bubuy Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) if i were manny pag natalo nya si gayweather isa isahin nya ung possible na makakalaban nya sa pound for pound list. jmm#2mosley#5cotto#6 once na nawalis nya lahat un sure ang pasok nya sa top 50 all time greatest.manalo lang sya kay mayweather eh siguradong top 10 ATG na yan, pag nanalo pa sya jan sa isa sa 3 mong pangalan na binigay.. top 5 na usapan jan.. pag nawalis pa nya yang 3, usapang GOAT na.. :cool: Edited May 8, 2009 by bubuy Quote Link to comment
vermeer50 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Dapat talunin muna ni Manny convincingly si Marquez kasi nabugbog din sya nito. Kitang kita nga s mukha ni Pacman na nagulat sya ng iannounce n panalo sya s huling laban nya kay Marquez. Si Mosley may tulog din sya kasi kahit matanda n c Mosley bumalik ung bilis nya laban kay Margarito. Try nyong panuorin ung laban nya kay Margarito. c Mayweather naman malamang d nya mapatulog kasi marunogn dumepensa c Mayweather hindi tulad ni Hatton. Delikado c Manny s mga coutner punchers na mautak at malakas sumuntok kasi nawawalan sya ng balance wag sumusuntok sya ng todo. try nyong panuorin laban nya kay Hatton pag sumontok sya ng straight left n malakas e umaangat ung isang paa nya. Exposed un para s magaling n counter puncher. Quote Link to comment
fattyacid Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 if i were manny pag natalo nya si gayweather isa isahin nya ung possible na makakalaban nya sa pound for pound list. jmm#2mosley#5cotto#6 once na nawalis nya lahat un sure ang pasok nya sa top 50 all time greatest. Manny vs JMM ? This fight will all just be for JMMs advantage. Manny has already floored the guy in both fights and even won on the first only if one judge has scored it correctly (10-8 instead of 10-9). Manny vs Cotto ?Cotto has been KOd by Margarito, which was KOd by Mosley. So the top 147 now is Mosley. Manny beating Cotto will not prove anything. Manny vs Mosley !Now this will be a fight. Let them meet on a catch weight of 143. Mosley is big and fast but old still at 37. Mannys right is powerful, and his left got even stronger. Anyone who could be caught by it like hatton had would definitely suffer the same fate, kahit heavyweights pa. So bring it on!! Manny vs PBFSince Roach plans for Manny to have 2 more fights before retiring, I think this fight should materialize first before the Mosley one. manalo lang sya kay mayweather eh siguradong top 10 ATG na yan, pag nanalo pa sya jan sa isa sa 3 mong pangalan na binigay.. top 5 na usapan jan.. pag nawalis pa nya yang 3, usapang GOAT na.. :cool: Dont tell that to Manny. Sasabihin niya he'd rather be a HORSE. Quote Link to comment
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