kanto-terrorist Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 if only i can have it my way, i would even go as far as 80-20 for pacman. a 60-40 deal for me is quite insulting for his status... Enough of this "Hatton can bring a bunch of British fans who can afford the expensive tickets or PPV, filipinos cant and will just have to endure hour-long tv ads for free viewing, that's why he deserved the equal share....blah..blah" kind of thing. They forgot that Pacman is not just a Filipino icon. He's an Asian Sensation. The lone sport superstar from Asia. Manny will bring rich boxing fan viewers from Japan, China, Middle East, etc. Not to mention that Hispanic fans from both American continents (he's got a fan base in Mexico) which most likely will also root for their fellow rosary-praying warrior in this match. boxing fans who happens to be in an inpoverished countries will definitely root for the former poor bakery boy from Gensan province. And they also forgot the multitudes of OFWs scattered all over the world. We would even consider Las Vegas as Pacman's homecourt as that pale-skinned Britton never fought outside the British isles. So who's the one who will bring the bigger audience? there's no valid reason for Hitman to demand that equal share. Quote Link to comment
mrpinoi Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 all manny want is a little RESPECT go manny go,what ever happens i support him Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 do you think manny has two fights left in his career?Well, realistically he has more than 2 fights left in the tank. Pero, yun ang plano ni Manny. He wants to retire with all his faculties intact (payo na rin ng family nya). And furthermore, there is nothing like retiring on the top of the game -- as the number one pound for pound fighter in the world... and the most exciting round for round fighter as well! Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) In terms of fans worldwide, mas madami talagang fans si Pacquiao baka 8/2 or 9/1 ang ratio. Pero pera kasi ang usapan dito hindi naman prestige o yung laban mismo o yung korona ni Hatton, it all boils down to $$$ MONEY $$$ and yung Hatton camp insist na mas madaming British fans na magbabayad kesa sa mga fans ni Pacman. Ofcourse kung hindi si Pacquiao ang kakalabanin ni Hatton konting British fans lang susuporta sa laban niya at ganun din naman kay Pacquaio, kung si Soto or lower rate fighter lalabanan niya konti din lang tatangkilik. Bottomline kailangan nila ang isa't isa. May report na nagkasundo na sa 52/48 at sa saturday(manila time) daw nila annouce but for now lets wait and see pa din. 4% ng $60M ay $2.4M mas malaki pa sa guaranteed $2M payday niya kay Soto Edited January 20, 2009 by jerzz Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Naunahan na yata ni Hatton si Manny kay Pretty Boy. Nagkasundo na ata sila sa England maglalaban sa Summer (nila). Sheeeesh... what's the interest in this fight (if ever it happens again)? CONVINCING KOCK-OUT panalo ni Pretty Boy. Unlike the Pacquiao-Morales fight 1, or the Pacquiao-Marquez fight 1 ... sige na pati yung 2, merong debate/question. Kakagatin kaya ito ng pay per view fans? I don't think so. Recession pa rin sa US and Europe. Only the diehard fans would part with their hard-earned cash for this one. Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 May report na nagkasundo na sa 52/48 at sa saturday(manila time) daw nila annouce but for now lets wait and see pa din. See. Nag-blink na side nila. :thumbsupsmiley: Siguro, pag-umabot na ng 55-45, medyo seriously consider na ang offer. Konting tawad pa. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Bob Arum should know who is boss. Ang laki na din kung tutuusin inaakyat ni Manny sa Top Rank. Lahat naman ng laban nya bumebenta. Plus with the last 5 fights pinaubaya nya na kay Arum yung presyuhan kaya dapat si Manny naman ang masunod ngayon. Minsan ng naisahan si Manny ng garapal na promoter with that first Marquez fight. Manny is playing it smart this time, lalo at alam nya na ang negosasyon ng boxing. Anlagay 4 na buwan bawal sayo ang sex. 2 months ka on heavy training, ilang kilometro tatakbuhin mo araw araw, nakdiet ka pa, at gugutumin mo sarili mo para umabot ka sa timbang, tapos makikipagbasagan ka pa ng bungo sa harap ng buong mundo. Si Arum wala naman gaano siya gaanong gagawin kundi maghanap ng kalaban, venue, at ipublicize laban. Nasa Ring side lang siya manonood ng laban. Quote Link to comment
GODzilla Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Masayado atang maaga kung mag-reretire agad si pacman after 2 fights. ang tendency kasi after several years, the urge to return to boxing will be too tempting to resist lalo pa kung hindi rin naman magiging succesful si pacman sa pulitika. by that time e hindi na siya ganun kagaling at doon na siya malamang masaktan o mabugbog. marami pa naman siyang puwedeng makalaban after hatton at mayweather, gaya ni marquez at valero. wag lang si margarito kasi he's too big saka mukhang kayang kaya mga suntok ni pacman. Anyway, sa tingin ko hanggang 2010 kaya pa rin lumaban at manalo ni pacman. Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Masayado atang maaga kung mag-reretire agad si pacman after 2 fights. ang tendency kasi after several years, the urge to return to boxing will be too tempting to resist lalo pa kung hindi rin naman magiging succesful si pacman sa pulitika. by that time e hindi na siya ganun kagaling at doon na siya malamang masaktan o mabugbog. marami pa naman siyang puwedeng makalaban after hatton at mayweather, gaya ni marquez at valero. wag lang si margarito kasi he's too big saka mukhang kayang kaya mga suntok ni pacman. Anyway, sa tingin ko hanggang 2010 kaya pa rin lumaban at manalo ni pacman. He'll focus more on poilitics ata... ive heard him said that sa interview after the dream match eh. Quote Link to comment
kanto-terrorist Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 HATTON: I'll bring the money on the table. Look around you. You can see how many have turned out tonight. I sold out the City of Manchester Stadium in six hours, 55,000 people. Thousands follow me to Vegas. How many people does he bring from the Philippines? Not many... PACMAN: i bring a lot of politicians including leeches during my fight..i bring the vice-president, congressmen, governors, mayors, national security adviser, DILG secretary, DOH secretary, DEP-ED secretary, DOT secretary and a lot more of leeches on the table....beat that Hatton...... Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Sheeeesh... what's the interest in this fight (if ever it happens again)? CONVINCING KOCK-OUT panalo ni Pretty Boy. Unlike the Pacquiao-Morales fight 1, or the Pacquiao-Marquez fight 1 ... sige na pati yung 2, merong debate/question. Kakagatin kaya ito ng pay per view fans? I don't think so. Recession pa rin sa US and Europe. Only the diehard fans would part with their hard-earned cash for this one. Very minimal ang interest nito sa USA at sa ibang parte ng mundo. Parte din siguro ng negotiation tactics nila kay Pacquiao pero si Mayweather daw ang nag offer Quote Link to comment
elvaracco Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 sayang...it would be such a shame if the fight does not push through.... Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Masayado atang maaga kung mag-reretire agad si pacman after 2 fights. ang tendency kasi after several years, the urge to return to boxing will be too tempting to resist lalo pa kung hindi rin naman magiging succesful si pacman sa pulitika. Babalik at babalik yan si Pacquiao, uubusin muna niya ang kita niya sa boxing sa politika. Mabilis lang maubos ang pera lalo na sa lifestyle nila, bigay dito bigay duon, tingnan mo nangyari kay Tyson, Holyfield, Mayweather and so on. Ubos ang daang milyon. Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) HATTON: I'll bring the money on the table. Look around you. You can see how many have turned out tonight. I sold out the City of Manchester Stadium in six hours, 55,000 people. Thousands follow me to Vegas. How many people does he bring from the Philippines? Not many... PACMAN: i bring a lot of politicians including leeches during my fight..i bring the vice-president, congressmen, governors, mayors, national security adviser, DILG secretary, DOH secretary, DEP-ED secretary, DOT secretary and a lot more of leeches on the table....beat that Hatton...... All expensed paid Sana mga magagandang tsiks nya na lang dalhin niya hindi pa masakit sa mata tingnan Edited January 20, 2009 by jerzz Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Masayado atang maaga kung mag-reretire agad si pacman after 2 fights. ang tendency kasi after several years, the urge to return to boxing will be too tempting to resist lalo pa kung hindi rin naman magiging succesful si pacman sa pulitika. by that time e hindi na siya ganun kagaling at doon na siya malamang masaktan o mabugbog. marami pa naman siyang puwedeng makalaban after hatton at mayweather, gaya ni marquez at valero. wag lang si margarito kasi he's too big saka mukhang kayang kaya mga suntok ni pacman. Anyway, sa tingin ko hanggang 2010 kaya pa rin lumaban at manalo ni pacman. Ganyan naman talaga buhay ng isang magaling na boxingero. You either retire on top, or you fight until you still can. If you retire during your prime people will say you just pussied out. But if you fight till you can, eventually your body stops responding to the training, your reflexes diminish, you develop brain damage, until time that your skills wont matter and you get beaten by 5th rate fighters. Just take a look at what happened to ali na lang, sino ba nagparetire sa kanya? Si trevor berbick, a fighter who is not even half of what ali was. Take for instance also Two of the greatest heavyweights of our generation. Holyfield and Lennox. Holyfield is the only 4 time heavyweight world champion.He should have retired five years ago, pero dahil lubog na lubog sa utang, kelangan niyang magpabugbug sa mga kalaban na ni wala man lang sa kalahati nung achievements nya nung nasa prime siya. He was paid 35 million dollars for that second tyson fight, but now he took 600k dollars for that Valuev fight. The lowest he has ever received as a heavyweight fighter. Now he is being mocked by many boxing analyst, and there was even a campaign for athletic comissions to revoke his license. Si Lennox naman maaga nagretire. He was also heavily criticized for it, many believe he was dodging some contenders. But he is only the heavyweight who retired without an unavenged lost. Either way someone always has your ticket. Mayweather knows this, thats why he tried to quit while he was still ahead. He did not want the world to see him washed up especially that he has a bloated ego. Eitherway you leave boxing, you should be sure that you leave it with a legacy. So far manny solidified his leagacy by beating de la hoya. Quote Link to comment
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