WayKurat Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 kung ayaw ni hatton si pretty boy na lang! tingnan natin kung pretty pa din siya pagkatapos! hahaha Quote Link to comment
tagalupa Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I think dpat pumayag na si Manny sa 50 50...Wag naman puro money bout ang laban..May belt si hatton and i think fair enuf ang 5050... Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 asan na si hatton? sa PPV top 10? http://philboxing.com/news/story-21841.html bumebenta lang si hatton worldwide kung sikat lang ang kalaban... Quote Link to comment
howarddeduct Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 ^^ I believe di naman ganun kayabang si Pacquiao. I mean sure his fame is getting to his head, pero sino bang boxingero ang di nagyabang at one point sa kanilang career nung naging sikat sila?Iyong yabang na "Kayang kaya kong patumbahin itong kalaban ko." Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Iyong yabang na "Kayang kaya kong patumbahin itong kalaban ko." If you can walk the talk do you still think that's pagmamayabang? He's just stating the facts that he can beat this guy or that guy. Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) GO FOR IT MANNY. DEMAND FOR THE MOON! Kung ayaw, nandyan naman si Pretty Boy. Mas payag pa dapat siya kay Pretty Boy ng 50-50 split. Why? He knocked the crap out of Hatton. Mas may pangalan pa ito. Naunahan na yata ni Hatton si Manny kay Pretty Boy. Nagkasundo na ata sila sa England maglalaban sa Summer (nila). Anyway palagay ko dahil diyan sa British TV at British paying fans mas malaki pa din kikitain ni Manny kung si Hatton kakalabanin niya kesa kay Prettyboy. Other options Soto & Casamayor? tsk tsk tsk. Si Valero may laban na din Edited January 19, 2009 by jerzz Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 UH, IT'S SIMPLY OUT OF RESPECT… By Marc Jonathan E. de JesusPhilBoxing.comFri, 16 Jan 2009 Alright people, this 50/50 problem isn’t hard to figure out. It’s not a matter of dollars and cents, it’s a matter of respect. Do you think Cavs owner Dan Gilbert would pay Lebron James (the best player in the NBA) the same exact salary as Yao Ming (the 6th best player in the NBA), just because he brings the China market with him?? Matter of fact, if that did happen, I hardly think the King would be happy. You see when you reach top dog status in any sport, it’s like elevating to the boss of a crime family, there’s a certain amount of respect that must be given. Just ask Tony Soprano. Look, you work your ass off, you face the best, you beat the best and when you’re finally on top, there’s a unique sense of pride you attain, a certain type of arrogance, albeit deserved arrogance. Only top dogs like Tiger and MJ know how this feels, and now Pacquiao too. And for the TOP DOG to be splitting 50/50 against a guy who is HARD PRESSED to EVEN CRACK THE TOP 5 pound for pound boxers in the world, is simply, INSULTING. (words were highlighted in CAPS for those who still don’t get it) Let me stress it again, it’s not about the money, it’s about respect. Matter of fact, even if the split moved up to as small as 53/47, Pacman would probably give the green light, because that extra 3 percent is a show of respect- that he is currently the best. If you still can’t figure it out, (and yes I am beating a dead horse here, cause it seems like people as Harvard educated as Arum can’t figure it out), you don’t pay the number one fighter in the world, the same exact split as the number 6 fighter. You just don’t. And people, Pacquiao is the one kicking ass not you guys, so his demands are more than deserved. The only exception to this rule WAS De la Hoya, but believe me, Hatton is not as golden. Can someone please pull up his PPV numbers from his last fight. Case closed. Even I didn’t watch that fight. Oh yah, I forgot, cause i'm a “pac nuthugger”. Besides, Hatton has no other choice for a big money fight, who is he even gonna fight that would draw half of the potential of a Pacman-Hatton purse??? Trust me nobody is gonna watch a rematch with Mayweather, after he got Ko-ed in the 10th. There is no intrigue, no compelling storyline for a rematch. Come on the first time around wasn’t even close. On the flip side, (pun intended), Pacquiao has plenty more big money options. Anybody read that article about Money Mayweather being broke??? That’s a fight waiting to happen. We’ll just call him “Pretty Broke” Floyd from now on, I’m officially patenting that, you heard it here first. Also I may be crazy (which is what people called Pac’s last fight), but I think a Pacquaio-Margarito match would be crazy good. Yah, it’s crazy. This would be a fight that could potentially turn Pacquiao from Boxing Legend to the Greatest Boxer Ever. And it would probably generate as much money as the De La Hoya fight, not only for its intrigue, but i’m sure there are plenty of Mexicans out there just salivating at a chance to see Pacquiao get knocked out. I mean come on, is this really a crazy idea? Let’s also not forget about completing the trilogy with Marquez as well. And so what we see here is that not only does Pacquiao deserve a bigger split simply out of respect AND because he’s the best, but also… he has other big money options. So by now, if you still can’t figure it out, you don’t have my respect. Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 ^ nice! that's the term RESPECT... Quote Link to comment
howarddeduct Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 If you can walk the talk do you still think that's pagmamayabang? He's just stating the facts that he can beat this guy or that guy.Tamang yabang lang. Didn't say pagmamayabang. Something like swagger. Even the well loved Michael Jordan had some yabang in him. Quote Link to comment
djlo Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 sabi nga ni BE HOP "PRINCIPAL"................ano ba yun..................... Quote Link to comment
kanto-terrorist Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 if only i can have it my way, i would even go as far as 80-20 for pacman. a 60-40 deal for me is quite insulting for his status... Enough of this "Hatton can bring a bunch of British fans who can afford the expensive tickets or PPV, filipinos cant and will just have to endure hour-long tv ads for free viewing, that's why he deserved the equal share....blah..blah" kind of thing. They forgot that Pacman is not just a Filipino icon. He's an Asian Sensation. The lone sport superstar from Asia. Manny will bring rich boxing fan viewers from Japan, China, Middle East, etc. Not to mention that Hispanic fans from both American continents (he's got a fan base in Mexico) which most likely will also root for their fellow rosary-praying warrior in this match. boxing fans who happens to be in an inpoverished countries will definitely root for the former poor bakery boy from Gensan province. And they also forgot the multitudes of OFWs scattered all over the world. We would even consider Las Vegas as Pacman's homecourt as that pale-skinned Britton never fought outside the British isles. So who's the one who will bring the bigger audience? there's no valid reason for Hitman to demand that equal share. Quote Link to comment
mrpinoi Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 all manny want is a little RESPECT go manny go,what ever happens i support him Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 do you think manny has two fights left in his career?Well, realistically he has more than 2 fights left in the tank. Pero, yun ang plano ni Manny. He wants to retire with all his faculties intact (payo na rin ng family nya). And furthermore, there is nothing like retiring on the top of the game -- as the number one pound for pound fighter in the world... and the most exciting round for round fighter as well! Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) In terms of fans worldwide, mas madami talagang fans si Pacquiao baka 8/2 or 9/1 ang ratio. Pero pera kasi ang usapan dito hindi naman prestige o yung laban mismo o yung korona ni Hatton, it all boils down to $$$ MONEY $$$ and yung Hatton camp insist na mas madaming British fans na magbabayad kesa sa mga fans ni Pacman. Ofcourse kung hindi si Pacquiao ang kakalabanin ni Hatton konting British fans lang susuporta sa laban niya at ganun din naman kay Pacquaio, kung si Soto or lower rate fighter lalabanan niya konti din lang tatangkilik. Bottomline kailangan nila ang isa't isa. May report na nagkasundo na sa 52/48 at sa saturday(manila time) daw nila annouce but for now lets wait and see pa din. 4% ng $60M ay $2.4M mas malaki pa sa guaranteed $2M payday niya kay Soto Edited January 20, 2009 by jerzz Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Naunahan na yata ni Hatton si Manny kay Pretty Boy. Nagkasundo na ata sila sa England maglalaban sa Summer (nila). Sheeeesh... what's the interest in this fight (if ever it happens again)? CONVINCING KOCK-OUT panalo ni Pretty Boy. Unlike the Pacquiao-Morales fight 1, or the Pacquiao-Marquez fight 1 ... sige na pati yung 2, merong debate/question. Kakagatin kaya ito ng pay per view fans? I don't think so. Recession pa rin sa US and Europe. Only the diehard fans would part with their hard-earned cash for this one. Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 May report na nagkasundo na sa 52/48 at sa saturday(manila time) daw nila annouce but for now lets wait and see pa din. See. Nag-blink na side nila. :thumbsupsmiley: Siguro, pag-umabot na ng 55-45, medyo seriously consider na ang offer. Konting tawad pa. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Bob Arum should know who is boss. Ang laki na din kung tutuusin inaakyat ni Manny sa Top Rank. Lahat naman ng laban nya bumebenta. Plus with the last 5 fights pinaubaya nya na kay Arum yung presyuhan kaya dapat si Manny naman ang masunod ngayon. Minsan ng naisahan si Manny ng garapal na promoter with that first Marquez fight. Manny is playing it smart this time, lalo at alam nya na ang negosasyon ng boxing. Anlagay 4 na buwan bawal sayo ang sex. 2 months ka on heavy training, ilang kilometro tatakbuhin mo araw araw, nakdiet ka pa, at gugutumin mo sarili mo para umabot ka sa timbang, tapos makikipagbasagan ka pa ng bungo sa harap ng buong mundo. Si Arum wala naman gaano siya gaanong gagawin kundi maghanap ng kalaban, venue, at ipublicize laban. Nasa Ring side lang siya manonood ng laban. Quote Link to comment
GODzilla Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Masayado atang maaga kung mag-reretire agad si pacman after 2 fights. ang tendency kasi after several years, the urge to return to boxing will be too tempting to resist lalo pa kung hindi rin naman magiging succesful si pacman sa pulitika. by that time e hindi na siya ganun kagaling at doon na siya malamang masaktan o mabugbog. marami pa naman siyang puwedeng makalaban after hatton at mayweather, gaya ni marquez at valero. wag lang si margarito kasi he's too big saka mukhang kayang kaya mga suntok ni pacman. Anyway, sa tingin ko hanggang 2010 kaya pa rin lumaban at manalo ni pacman. Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Masayado atang maaga kung mag-reretire agad si pacman after 2 fights. ang tendency kasi after several years, the urge to return to boxing will be too tempting to resist lalo pa kung hindi rin naman magiging succesful si pacman sa pulitika. by that time e hindi na siya ganun kagaling at doon na siya malamang masaktan o mabugbog. marami pa naman siyang puwedeng makalaban after hatton at mayweather, gaya ni marquez at valero. wag lang si margarito kasi he's too big saka mukhang kayang kaya mga suntok ni pacman. Anyway, sa tingin ko hanggang 2010 kaya pa rin lumaban at manalo ni pacman. He'll focus more on poilitics ata... ive heard him said that sa interview after the dream match eh. Quote Link to comment
kanto-terrorist Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 HATTON: I'll bring the money on the table. Look around you. You can see how many have turned out tonight. I sold out the City of Manchester Stadium in six hours, 55,000 people. Thousands follow me to Vegas. How many people does he bring from the Philippines? Not many... PACMAN: i bring a lot of politicians including leeches during my fight..i bring the vice-president, congressmen, governors, mayors, national security adviser, DILG secretary, DOH secretary, DEP-ED secretary, DOT secretary and a lot more of leeches on the table....beat that Hatton...... Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Sheeeesh... what's the interest in this fight (if ever it happens again)? CONVINCING KOCK-OUT panalo ni Pretty Boy. Unlike the Pacquiao-Morales fight 1, or the Pacquiao-Marquez fight 1 ... sige na pati yung 2, merong debate/question. Kakagatin kaya ito ng pay per view fans? I don't think so. Recession pa rin sa US and Europe. Only the diehard fans would part with their hard-earned cash for this one. Very minimal ang interest nito sa USA at sa ibang parte ng mundo. Parte din siguro ng negotiation tactics nila kay Pacquiao pero si Mayweather daw ang nag offer Quote Link to comment
elvaracco Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 sayang...it would be such a shame if the fight does not push through.... Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Masayado atang maaga kung mag-reretire agad si pacman after 2 fights. ang tendency kasi after several years, the urge to return to boxing will be too tempting to resist lalo pa kung hindi rin naman magiging succesful si pacman sa pulitika. Babalik at babalik yan si Pacquiao, uubusin muna niya ang kita niya sa boxing sa politika. Mabilis lang maubos ang pera lalo na sa lifestyle nila, bigay dito bigay duon, tingnan mo nangyari kay Tyson, Holyfield, Mayweather and so on. Ubos ang daang milyon. Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) HATTON: I'll bring the money on the table. Look around you. You can see how many have turned out tonight. I sold out the City of Manchester Stadium in six hours, 55,000 people. Thousands follow me to Vegas. How many people does he bring from the Philippines? Not many... PACMAN: i bring a lot of politicians including leeches during my fight..i bring the vice-president, congressmen, governors, mayors, national security adviser, DILG secretary, DOH secretary, DEP-ED secretary, DOT secretary and a lot more of leeches on the table....beat that Hatton...... All expensed paid Sana mga magagandang tsiks nya na lang dalhin niya hindi pa masakit sa mata tingnan Edited January 20, 2009 by jerzz Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Masayado atang maaga kung mag-reretire agad si pacman after 2 fights. ang tendency kasi after several years, the urge to return to boxing will be too tempting to resist lalo pa kung hindi rin naman magiging succesful si pacman sa pulitika. by that time e hindi na siya ganun kagaling at doon na siya malamang masaktan o mabugbog. marami pa naman siyang puwedeng makalaban after hatton at mayweather, gaya ni marquez at valero. wag lang si margarito kasi he's too big saka mukhang kayang kaya mga suntok ni pacman. Anyway, sa tingin ko hanggang 2010 kaya pa rin lumaban at manalo ni pacman. Ganyan naman talaga buhay ng isang magaling na boxingero. You either retire on top, or you fight until you still can. If you retire during your prime people will say you just pussied out. But if you fight till you can, eventually your body stops responding to the training, your reflexes diminish, you develop brain damage, until time that your skills wont matter and you get beaten by 5th rate fighters. Just take a look at what happened to ali na lang, sino ba nagparetire sa kanya? Si trevor berbick, a fighter who is not even half of what ali was. Take for instance also Two of the greatest heavyweights of our generation. Holyfield and Lennox. Holyfield is the only 4 time heavyweight world champion.He should have retired five years ago, pero dahil lubog na lubog sa utang, kelangan niyang magpabugbug sa mga kalaban na ni wala man lang sa kalahati nung achievements nya nung nasa prime siya. He was paid 35 million dollars for that second tyson fight, but now he took 600k dollars for that Valuev fight. The lowest he has ever received as a heavyweight fighter. Now he is being mocked by many boxing analyst, and there was even a campaign for athletic comissions to revoke his license. Si Lennox naman maaga nagretire. He was also heavily criticized for it, many believe he was dodging some contenders. But he is only the heavyweight who retired without an unavenged lost. Either way someone always has your ticket. Mayweather knows this, thats why he tried to quit while he was still ahead. He did not want the world to see him washed up especially that he has a bloated ego. Eitherway you leave boxing, you should be sure that you leave it with a legacy. So far manny solidified his leagacy by beating de la hoya. Quote Link to comment
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