jerzz Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 C'mon not common... What do you mean by how many times? Ayoko lang ng GREEDY... buohin mo na prof come on hehehehe 52-48 na yata ang offer ni Hatton pero inaantay pa ni Pacquiao maging 55/45 bago pumirma Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 yun naman pala e. bibigay din naman pala si hatton. sayang din yung guaranteed na $15 M! Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Palagay ko matutuloy ito maski anong sinasabi nila nakikiramdam lang sila sa isa't isa, wala naman silang ibang alternative na laban. May mga naka sched na laban na yung mga premyadong boksingero at maski available pa pinakamalaking kita pa din ang Hatton-Pacquiao dahil sa British TV. Palagay ko din pag nagmatigas si Hatton sa 55/45, papayag na si Pacquiao sa 52/48, sabi kasi niya pag iisipan na niya. Quote Link to comment
ixnay Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 its a wait & see scenario ulit.. it's possible that this fight will push through thinking will have to wait for further announcements. i also had the same sentiments like wizard23. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Guys, Intindihin na din natin si Manny sa Kasong ito. I mean madali sabihin na fight for prestiege kung di ikaw yung 2 buwang magpapanday ng katawan mo tapos papagulpi ka pa sa ring. Hindi naman pwede sabihin that money should not be a primary issue. It is. Bakit ba si Holyfield hangang ngayon na diminished na skills nya lumalaban pa din? I mean he keeps saying that its simply because he wants to retire undisputed champion, but we all know thats BS. He has to keep fighting kasi lubog na lubog siya sa utang. Anyway, me 7-fight deal si manny sa top rank, he is down to his last two fights, and he is considering retiring afterwards. I mean now would be the best time for him to do so. Kasi lahat ng dapat nya talunin natalo nya na, wala na siyang dapat pang patunayan. And perhaps the guy wants to just make sure he is all set. Now I know a lot of you think na di na pwede maghirap si Manny sa dami ng kinita nya. I strongly disagree on this one. Kung ang PAL na flag carrier natin nalulugi si Manny pa kaya? Tsaka look at Tyson who was earning $30 Million per fight, ano ba kinabagksakan nya? Si Holyfield na mas matagal pa nga nagumpisa sa boxing, pero hangang ngayon he has to fight kasi wala na siya ibang pagkakakitaan. Kahit ba $15 million dollars kinita ni Pacquiao, madami pa yang kaltas. Kaltas sa mga tax sa states at nevada, kaltas pag dating dito, bayad sa trainer at training expenses. Payroll sa mga tao nya, mga abugado, cornermen, sparring partners, at syempre ang promoter pa. Promoters lang talaga yumayaman ng permanente sa Boxing. and in the past niloko na din si Manny ng promoter nya with that Marquez fight. Ako gusto magretire si Manny on his prime. Now tama naman siya kung sasabihin nyang in the past di naman siya nakialam sa hatian, ngayon naman sana pagbigyan na siya ni Bob arum. Isa pa kaya siguro malakas loob ni manny kasi alam nya na me makukuha pa siyang laban kung di pumayag si Hatton. Sana nga makuha nila lumaban uli si Mayweather. Kung matuloy, eh di ok. Kung hindi at makakuha siya ng 3rd grade fighters, eh di bahala siya buhay nya yan, siguradong walang PPV subscriptions. Mabuti kasi kung pwede natin puntahan si Manny at sabihan na "ikaw kasi bobo ka talaga, pera na ginawa mo pang bato. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Parang si Juan Manuel Marquez dati ayaw pumayag ng rematch kay Manny worth $750,000 dahil gusto $1.5M tapos lumaban kay Chris John for a mere $30,000 tapos talo pa At ngayon para siyang naanakang pokpok na habol ng habol kay Manny. Kahit pa siguro 95-5 ang hatian papayag si Marquez basta labanan lang siya ni manny Quote Link to comment
omega_jef Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Guys, Intindihin na din natin si Manny sa Kasong ito. I mean madali sabihin na fight for prestiege kung di ikaw yung 2 buwang magpapanday ng katawan mo tapos papagulpi ka pa sa ring. Hindi naman pwede sabihin that money should not be a primary issue. It is. Bakit ba si Holyfield hangang ngayon na diminished na skills nya lumalaban pa din? I mean he keeps saying that its simply because he wants to retire undisputed champion, but we all know thats BS. He has to keep fighting kasi lubog na lubog siya sa utang. Anyway, me 7-fight deal si manny sa top rank, he is down to his last two fights, and he is considering retiring afterwards. I mean now would be the best time for him to do so. Kasi lahat ng dapat nya talunin natalo nya na, wala na siyang dapat pang patunayan. And perhaps the guy wants to just make sure he is all set. Now I know a lot of you think na di na pwede maghirap si Manny sa dami ng kinita nya. I strongly disagree on this one. Kung ang PAL na flag carrier natin nalulugi si Manny pa kaya? Tsaka look at Tyson who was earning $30 Million per fight, ano ba kinabagksakan nya? Si Holyfield na mas matagal pa nga nagumpisa sa boxing, pero hangang ngayon he has to fight kasi wala na siya ibang pagkakakitaan. Kahit ba $15 million dollars kinita ni Pacquiao, madami pa yang kaltas. Kaltas sa mga tax sa states at nevada, kaltas pag dating dito, bayad sa trainer at training expenses. Payroll sa mga tao nya, mga abugado, cornermen, sparring partners, at syempre ang promoter pa. Promoters lang talaga yumayaman ng permanente sa Boxing. and in the past niloko na din si Manny ng promoter nya with that Marquez fight. Ako gusto magretire si Manny on his prime. Now tama naman siya kung sasabihin nyang in the past di naman siya nakialam sa hatian, ngayon naman sana pagbigyan na siya ni Bob arum. Isa pa kaya siguro malakas loob ni manny kasi alam nya na me makukuha pa siyang laban kung di pumayag si Hatton. Sana nga makuha nila lumaban uli si Mayweather. Kung matuloy, eh di ok. Kung hindi at makakuha siya ng 3rd grade fighters, eh di bahala siya buhay nya yan, siguradong walang PPV subscriptions. Mabuti kasi kung pwede natin puntahan si Manny at sabihan na "ikaw kasi bobo ka talaga, pera na ginawa mo pang bato. kaw lang yata nakakaintindi ng business dito eh... :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 ^^ pag di ka pa sikat na boksingero, lalabanan mo kung sino ibigay sayo ng promoter mo. Pero pag sikat ka na, ikaw na dapat ang pipili ng kung sino mo gusto makalaban. Si ODLH naging highest paid boxer of all time kasi pinipili nya kung sino kakalabanin nya. He could have taken on margarito, pero alam nyang di bebenta ang laban at matatalo pa siya. So kung matatalo din siya, why not do it with lots of money in your favor. Hence he chose to fight Pacquiao. Hindi importante kung sino pipiliin ni Manny kalabanin. Ang importante, bumenta yung laban at malaki kitain nya. I mean. He could always go back to 130 division and get all the belts so he can be the undisputed champion, but lets face it nobody would want to watch him do those fights with those guys in that division. Quote Link to comment
thedynamite007 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 titgil sa kayabangan si pacman once na laos na sya at mahina na sya na mag mamakaawa kahit 20% lang sa kanya Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 ^ i dont think that will happen... remembe that his NAME is cemented on the boxing records when he destroyed ODLH. He will end his career in a very positive note. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 ^^ I believe di naman ganun kayabang si Pacquiao. I mean sure his fame is getting to his head, pero sino bang boxingero ang di nagyabang at one point sa kanilang career nung naging sikat sila? Mas mayabang pa nga para sa akin sina Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr., at lalo naman si Pretty Boy. Pero at least nakita natin si Pacquiao na malinis lagi lumaban. Nung napatumba niya si Diaz, lumapit agad siya dito para tignan yung binugbog nya, tapos after the fight pinuri nya pa. Matapos yung laban nya kay de la hoya, ano sabi nya sa natalo niya? "you're still my idol". I mean merong mga ginagawa si pacquiao na ayaw ko. Pero I will give him credit in his demeanor before and after fights. Tsaka given fact naman na lahat ng boxingero hihina at malalaos din. Si Pacquiao alam niya ito, sabi nya patapos na siya sa boxing, kaya nga he is trying to get a bigger purse as much as he can. Wouldn't you do the same thing if you were already to retire? Kung pwede ka kumita ng mas malaki eh di go. Quote Link to comment
GODzilla Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 titgil sa kayabangan si pacman once na laos na sya at mahina na sya na mag mamakaawa kahit 20% lang sa kanya Hindi naman siguro kayabangan yung humingi ka ng pera na commensurate sa abilities mo, di ba? like in asking for a raise, how would you feel if your boss told you, "gusto mong mas mataas na suweldo? ang yabang mo naman!" As ive said, what i found distasteful is the fact that pacquiao's handlers are making public there demands. Nagiging impression tuloy na napaka-suwapang na ni pacquiao. Ang mga ganyang negosasyon kasi dapat private lang at iaannounce na lang pag nagkasundo na sila. Wag din sana natin ipagdasal na matalo o malaos agad si pacquaio. Remember we waited for decades before we had a real stand-out boxer who is recognized both here and abroad. Hindi natin alam kung kelan tayo ulit magkakaroon ng ganyang boxer. Sana maalis na yung crab mentality sa atin. Quote Link to comment
WayKurat Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 i think tama naman si pacman for the 60/40. but a 55/45 would be fair enough. Wala naman hatak si Hatton sa ppv. 200k lang last fight niya sa ppv. kahit na sabihin mo marami syang fans sa uk. Pacman is the draw here! Quote Link to comment
thedynamite007 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) okay bweno peru wag natin gawing role model or symbol ng pinas ang ugali nya, para narin sinabi mu na si Willie revilliame ay symbol ng pinas at santo. Dapat hindi sya Edited January 19, 2009 by thedynamite007 Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 who said that he should be a role model or a symbol? dragonei and myself even said na hindi nga dapat gawing pambansang bayani si PacMan di ba? he should be an inspiration, thats all. pero para gawin pang holiday ang pag-uwi niya from his fight eh medyo off na ata yun. Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) Pumayag si Manny ng 40-60 split kay DLH. Why? Because he knows that after that fight (if he wins, and he did!), he can demand the lion's share of the purse on his next fight. And this is THE next fight. Sino ba ang huling tinalo ni Hatton? Oh, I slept thru most of that Malignaggi bout. Kinabukasan na (replay) ko natapos. Manny is the FIGHTER OF THE MOMENT. And this moment will not last forever. Sandaling-sandali lang yan. Napaka-fickle ng minds ng fight fans. Matalo si PACMAN, hindi na siya pwede mag-demand pa ng lions' share. GO FOR IT MANNY. DEMAND FOR THE MOON! Kung ayaw, nandyan naman si Pretty Boy. Mas payag pa dapat siya kay Pretty Boy ng 50-50 split. Why? He knocked the crap out of Hatton. Mas may pangalan pa ito. LAST 2 FIGHTS na lang ng career ng bata natin. Hayaan nating kumita ng maganda-ganda. Tapos.... BALATO NAMAN MANNY! (hehehehe... JK ) Edited January 19, 2009 by skitz Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Pumayag si Manny ng 40-60 split kay DLH. Why? Because he knows that after that fight (if he wins, and he did!), he can demand the lion's share of the purse on his next fight. And this is THE next fight. Sino ba ang huling tinalo ni Hatton? Oh, I slept thru most of that Malignaggi bout. Kinabukasan na (replay) ko natapos. Manny is the FIGHTER OF THE MOMENT. And this moment will not last forever. Sandaling-sandali lang yan. Napaka-fickle ng minds ng fight fans. Matalo si PACMAN, hindi na siya pwede mag-demand pa ng lions' share. GO FOR IT MANNY. DEMAND FOR THE MOON! Kung ayaw, nandyan naman si Pretty Boy. Mas payag pa dapat siya kay Pretty Boy ng 50-50 split. Why? He knocked the crap out of Hatton. Mas may pangalan pa ito. LAST 2 FIGHTS na lang ng career ng bata natin. Hayaan nating kumita ng maganda-ganda. Tapos.... BALATO NAMAN MANNY! (hehehehe... JK ) Malinaggi is a bum! 5 lang ang knockout nya. No wonder kayang kaya ni Hatton salubungin mga suntok nya. Manny could blow Malinaggi away like his fists were stinger missiles. Quote Link to comment
jjpaler Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 do you think manny has two fights left in his career? Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 ^^ Well yeah! Manny still has his god-given talents and his skills has not yet erroded. He could still go on fighting till he is 35, but eventually merong mas malakas mas mabilis na papalit sa trono nya, so why not quit while you are still ahead di ba? Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 do you think manny has two fights left in his career? yes! and expect that 2 or more fights to be a blockbuster... Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Basta huwag lang si humberto sotto siguradong walang manonood ng laban na ito Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Basta huwag lang si humberto sotto siguradong walang manonood ng laban na ito wag lang sana madiskaril yung Hitman vs. PacMan kundi ito na ang sure na makakalaban ni Manny Boy! :thumbsdownsmiley: Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Well pwede din naman si Valero, pero sa texas yung laban. Di pa pwede lumaban si Valero sa vegas. Surely di rin kikita ng kasing kalaki laban na ito kesa hatton-pacquiao. The best alternative would be Mayweather, if he decides to come out of retirement. Kung sina Cotto, Margarito, O kaya Marquez naman, matagal tagal aantayin nya. Bukod sa lahat sila meron ng laban, Nakaschedule pa magrematch si Cotto at margarito. Quote Link to comment
ixnay Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 margarito would be in the the latter part of the list of opponents for MP. the only feasible fight for him is hatton & mayweather. JMM would be the last guy that manny would fight. konting hilot nlng cgro at for sure n matu2loy itong laban ky hitman. wag lng eepaL si gacal ulet!.. Quote Link to comment
The_Blade Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 hehe. kahit 50.1- 49.1 payag na si manny wag lang talaga 50-50. 200K fight fan ni hatton sa UK pero lahat yun paying patrons. si manny 80 millions fans nya d2 pinas palang pero ilang libo lang ata nag subcribe sa ppv. baka wala pang isang libo. bwisit na mga bars yan at sinehan , laki ng kita nila sa laban ni manny. one of the reason bakit ok na ang 50-50. ano kaya pag sinabi ni hatton 100-0 sila sa bawat bansa UK at pinas payag kaya si gacal? yung 1 million viewers last time sa dream match san bansa ba yung karamihan di ba sa states lang? ^^^50.1- 49.9 pala yun Quote Link to comment
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