djrs Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) hindi pa ata tapos yung laban nila ni ODLH may usap-usapan na na si Hitman ang next in line for him... he's unprofessional kasi pumayag na yung promoter niya tpos may mga demands pa pala siya... in the first place, kung maayos ang usapan nila ng promoter niya hindi mangyayari lhat ng ito... wala bang history si PacMan sa pagiging unprofessional? It's not about who's the popular one. it's about making a statement na kahit sino iharap sa knya eh lalabanan niya... 65-35 is just too much. (IMO atleast) it can only show how greedy PacMan had become throughout the years niya sa boxing... maybe it's because of the election is fast approaching. heheeheh, ATA? alam mo ba na dapat e ODLH vs. Hatton? kasi expected na matatalo si MANNY? hehehehe. kasama ka ba sa negotiation? bakit sobrang affected mo? nagkapirmahan na ba? parang NBA Players din yan... pag ROOKIE ka ikaw pipiliin...(Draft picks) PAG ALL-STAR ka na! ikaw mamimili kung saan team ka maglalaro at kung sino pinakamalaki ang offer na PERA.. MALABO pa ba ang example? NBA-SPORTS BUSINESS BOXING -SPORTS BUSINESS Si pacman naman ngayon ang GREEDY? hehehehe. Crab mentality talaga oh.... hayyyzzz.. nung si ODLH mas lamang sa Bayaran laban kay MP wala ako naririnig o nababasa na GREEDY si ODLH.. nung si pacman naman ang nasa tuktok ng boxing.. at mas gusto mas mataas ang bayad sa kanya ngayon greedy na si MP.. Nung si Marquez hinamon ni pacman ng second bout dahil sa DRAW nung first mas gusto ni Marquez mas mataas bayad sa kanya pero iniwasan nya si PACMAN wala ako nabasa na GREEDY si Marquez. pero nung natalo ni pacman si marquez ang sabi ng iba dapat panalo si marquez.. tapos maririnig mo takot si pacman kay marquez.. hayyyy buhay nga naman.... sarap kumain ng CRAB stick... heheheheh. saka dumidiskarte lang yang mga adviser ni MP para mas tumaas ang VALUE ni MP... at mas tumaas ang bayad sa kanya.. pero under NEGOTIATION pa naman e... HINDI under CONTRACT na... malay mo matuloy sa 50-50.... hehehehe. maganda din sinabi ni sir Dragonei.. Edited January 15, 2009 by djrs Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) In principle tama lang naman na mas malaki shares ni Pacquaio kasi mas sikat naman talaga siya kay hatton. Para sa akin hindi issue yung hatian. Ang malaking tanong dito, tama ba yung negotiations na ginagawa and are they really giving pacquiao a good advice on this one. As of this point its too early to tell. Malalaman lang natin sa kahihinatnan ng deal na ito. Tama ka mas sikat ngayon si Pacman pero ang point kasi ni Arum at ng GBP, maraming dadalhing paying customer si Hatton galing sa England, diba gusto nga ng kampo ni Hatton sa England ang laban at pupunuin daw nila yung Wembley Stadium na merong 90,000 seating capacity, papaabutin daw nila sa 100,000 yung paying customers. Pero pumayag din sila Hatton na sa MGM Grand yung laban na may 14,000 seating capacity lang. Ang estimate nila aabot daw sa 1M shares yung PPV(Pay per view) sa England. Alam naman nating halos walang PPV dito sa Pinas, nagtitiyaga na lang tayo sa sangkatutak na patalastas para makalibre. Para sa akin fair na yung 50/50 kasi nga madami ding hatak si Hatton na Paying Britons Ang problema kasi kay Pacquiao, ang dami niyang politikong bisita at sagot niya lahat pati board and lodging kaya ang laki ng expenses niya. Edited January 15, 2009 by jerzz Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 ^^Actually, after the fight with marquez, Manny was offered a guaranteed 6-million para lang sa immidiate rematch. But he instead chose to challenge David Diaz, at di hamak na mas mababa yung revenue nung fight na yun. So papanong sasabihin that he is just being greedy? Gaya nga ng sabi ko, nasa negotiator yan. In principle tama naman talaga na mas malaki hati ni Pacquaio sa laban nila ni Hatton. The real issue here is tama ba paraan ng pagnegotiate ng kampo ni Pacquiao? Kasi syempre he is getting advices from them. Ngayon kung magaling yung negotiators nya at alam nila ginagawa nila, then dapat masara nila yung deal. Kung pumalpak man si Pacquaio at wala na silang makuhang magandang kalaban, eh di kasalanan nila yun. Either way hindi greedy dito si Pacquiao. Its just business. Anatayin na lang natin magiging conclusion nito. Anyway pag pumalpak man sila sa negotiation, pwede ba natin puntahan si Manny at sabihan na.... "Ikaw kasi eh! tatanga tanga ka, bakit mo ba pinili ang mga gagong ito para magnegotiate ng laban mo?, sana sa amin ka na lang nakinig, sana kami na lang kinuha mong adviser" hehehe Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Manny Pacquiao nears agreement to fight Ricky Hatton9:38 AM, January 14, 2009 A day after negotiations appeared to be crumbling, Manny Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, just told me that Pacquiao's advisors are now "on board" with a 50-50 purse split with Ricky Hatton, and he expects that, "by tomorrow, I'll have a signed contract." "There was a lot of confusion about why we did 50-50, but everyone now understands why this is a good deal," Arum said. "This thing is going to happen. Yesterday was disarray. Today, everything's back in order." Arum said Pacquiao's retreat from a prior verbal agreement and push for a 60-40 percentage in his favor didn't account for the fact that he would receive half of the money coming from television rights in Britain, revenue that is greatly "attributable to Hatton," who hails from England, Arum said. Hatton will also draw at least half of the live gate, Arum predicted, crediting Pacquiao for driving the U.S. pay-per-view sales. Arum said Hatton's 2007 opponent, Floyd Mayweather Jr., didn't receive any British television money, and when he explained that to Pacquiao's attorney, Franklin Gacal, and the fighter's American and Philippine advisors, "everybody is now calmed down." Arum said he has received a thumbs-up from all three Pacquiao advisors to proceed for a 140-pound May 2 fight in Las Vegas that will match the top pound-for-pound fighter in the world against the charismatic Hatton, who has never lost at 140. Pacquiao today is running a basketball tournament in the Philippines, but he's expected to sign the contract sometime Thursday -- much to the relief of Arum, Hatton and legions of boxing fans. -- Lance Pugmire so may makukuha si MP sa PPV sa British...? Quote Link to comment
howarddeduct Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 ^^Actually, after the fight with marquez, Manny was offered a guaranteed 6-million para lang sa immidiate rematch. But he instead chose to challenge David Diaz, at di hamak na mas mababa yung revenue nung fight na yun. So papanong sasabihin that he is just being greedy?Takot kay Marquez? Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Tama ka mas sikat ngayon si Pacman pero ang point kasi ni Arum at ng GBP, maraming dadalhing paying customer si Hatton galing sa England, diba gusto nga ng kampo ni Hatton sa England ang laban at pupunuin daw nila yung Wembley Stadium na merong 90,000 seating capacity, papaabutin daw nila sa 100,000 yung paying customers. Pero pumayag din sila Hatton na sa MGM Grand yung laban na may 14,000 seating capacity lang. Ang estimate nila aabot daw sa 1M shares yung PPV(Pay per view) sa England. Alam naman nating halos walang PPV dito sa Pinas, nagtitiyaga na lang tayo sa sangkatutak na patalastas para makalibre. Para sa akin fair na yung 50/50 kasi nga madaming ding hatak si Hatton na Paying Britons Well Ill respect your take on this, but do take note na kahit naman saang sport, the athlete who has wore winability gets to be paid more. Parang si Micheal Jordan, kung tutuusin dapat pare pareho lang siya ng sweldo kina rodman at pippen kasi its a team sport nga naman. pareho namang nakakahatak ng crowd si rodman at jordan nung nasa isang team sila. Pero in terms of skills and achievement malayo agwat nila so malayo din agwat ng sweldo nila. Now para sa aking kahit maging 60-40 ang hatian nila in favor of Pacquiao, hatton wont exactly go empty handed surely he will make more in this fight than what he did in his last 2 fights. I mean Malinaggi is a bum. Nobody wanted to see this guy fight. Percentage lang naman yan eh. Pag datin sa volume di na lugi si Hatton. Gaya ng sinabi ko, Ideally his negotiators i.e. Atty. Gacal should look after the best interest ni Manny. So Siguro nagpapakitang gilas siya kay manny para taasan pa legal fees na sinisingil nya. And he intends to do so by promising manny that he can get a 60-40 deal. Siguro si Manny nakumbinse naman sa advice na ito. Lets just hope Gacal and his pose know what they are doing and that they can indeed pull this one off. Kung hindi, eh di kay manny siya mananagot. Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Ayos na pala eh hehehe So 50/50 na, di naman papadehado yan si Arum kaya dapat yan sila Gacal wag na masyadong satsat ng satsat, makipag coordinate muna kay Arum. Ngayon wag lang papilay si Pacman diyan sa basketball kundi yari ang $15M minimum payday niya Mga higante makakalaban niya diyan at talunan at takbuhan Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Well Ill respect your take on this, but do take note na kahit naman saang sport, the athlete who has wore winability gets to be paid more. Parang si Micheal Jordan, kung tutuusin dapat pare pareho lang siya ng sweldo kina rodman at pippen kasi its a team sport nga naman. pareho namang nakakahatak ng crowd si rodman at jordan nung nasa isang team sila. Pero in terms of skills and achievement malayo agwat nila so malayo din agwat ng sweldo nila. Totoo yan pero si Jordan at Pippen parehas sa Chicago, isa lang ang paying customer nila kaya dapat mas mataas sahod ng magaling, ito naman British at Pinoy ang fanbase, yung mga British hindi yan pupunta or magbabayad kung hindi si Hatton ang kalaban ni Pacman Ito yung sabi ng kampo ni Hatton “Pacquiao is a great fighter, a great draw and is recognized as the pound-for-pound number one, but Hatton is also a unique fighter who will bring UK TV money, an army of British fans and so in terms of where the money will come from, Ricky Hatton is bringing the lion’s share.” Williams pointed out that although Pacquiao is “massive in the Philippines, thousands of Filipinos aren’t going to travel to Las Vegas or pay to watch it on pay-per-view.” Bottomline : Maraming perang dadalhin si Hatton kaya fair din yung hatian anyway nagkasundo na daw according to djrs Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Totoo yan pero si Jordan at Pippen parehas sa Chicago, isa lang ang paying customer nila kaya dapat mas mataas sahod ng magaling, ito naman British at Pinoy ang fanbase, yung mga British hindi yan pupunta or magbabayad kung hindi si Hatton ang kalaban ni Pacman Ito yung sabi ng kampo ni Hatton “Pacquiao is a great fighter, a great draw and is recognized as the pound-for-pound number one, but Hatton is also a unique fighter who will bring UK TV money, an army of British fans and so in terms of where the money will come from, Ricky Hatton is bringing the lion’s share.” Williams pointed out that although Pacquiao is “massive in the Philippines, thousands of Filipinos aren’t going to travel to Las Vegas or pay to watch it on pay-per-view.” Bottomline : Maraming perang dadalhin si Hatton kaya fair din yung hatian anyway nagkasundo na daw according to djrs O ayan, kung accurtate yung sources ni DJRS, eh di tapos na pala usapan. Huwag na tayong masyadong OA dito. Basta ganito lang lagi dapat yan Si Manny Pipili ng gusto nya kalabanin Si Arum magnenegotiate ng figures Si Gacal et al. sila magbabasa kontrata at magpapaliwanag kay manny, at syempre bibigyan ng advice kung ano makakabuti sa kanya. Siguro gusto humingi ni Gacal ng dagdag na sahod for his legal fees. Kaya gusto magpakitang gilas. Ang sakin, kung magawa nya di OK. Kung hindi at pumalpak negosasyon, eh di dapat tangalin na siya ni Manny. if I am not mistakes siya rin yata me dahilan kung bakit 2 kontrata napirmahan nya Quote Link to comment
GODzilla Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I think making public the demands of pacquiao, by his own people no less, particularly his asking for a bigger share is turning a lot of people off. First of all, he is the challenger and hatton is the champion at 140 lbs. Secondly, the pound for pound title is a fictional one, and was just introduced by some writers because there are several champions in boxing. In fact, for some experts, pacquiao is not even the pound for pound king. Dont get me wrong, i am an avid pacman fan but he should really ignore the advice of his advisers on this one. Remember, these were the same advisers who told him to sign with Golden Boy Prom. and later backed out from the deal. Pacman is fast becoming notorious for being money hungryand someone who has no palabra de honor. I hate to see pacquiao leave this kind of legacy. I guess there is truth to what Calzaghe said that boxing is dying because fighters now a days are fighting for money and not for honor and respect. Just my two cents.... Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 ^^^ Well like I said kanina pa its all about advices. But can you blame pacquiao? Syempre when you are in a profession as big as this, you will need to consult people to make informed decisions. Its just a question whether alam ni gacal ginagawa nya sa kliente nya Anyway mukhang naayos na naman ang gusot so tapos na usapan na ito kung sakali man. Ang masama nito Gacal f#&ks the deal up and walang makalaban si Manny for two years. Kung di pwede si Hatton, si Malinaggi na lang kaya hehehe Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) so far ok naman si Arum Correct me if i'm wrong pero ito yung mga naging hatianpacquaio vs marquez 75/25 or 3M/1Mpacquaio vs diaz 80/20 or 4M/1Mpacquaio vs delahoya 35/65 or 11M/20M basic lang yata yan - not too sure Edited January 15, 2009 by jerzz Quote Link to comment
GODzilla Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Oo nga eh, mukhang may sariling mundo itong si gacal, puro palpak advice kay manny. pati ata yung pagtakbo sa elections, siya rin may pakana. anyway, i heard si valero sa top rank na rin, kung sakaling di matuloy kay hatton, silang dalawa ni valero maganda maglaban, bugbugang umaatikabo. kaya lang baka hanggang round one lang, hehehe! Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 @godzilla, P4P might be fictional for you... Remember Manny is not a natural Lightweight he is not a natural Welterwieght... he goes up to fight does bigger fighters.... at nanalo naman sya... at maraming nagsasabi at mga EXPERTS kuno.. "Manny might got killed on the ring"(kasi nga di sya lightweight or welterwieght) Money is nothing kung mapapatay karin diba? Hindi impossibleng mapatay ka sa isang boxing fight.. kaya as much as possible kung ikaw ay sikat na boxer mas gusto mo na mas malaki kikitain mo sa bawat laban. bakit ba si DIaz sya ang Champion? pero mas maliit kinita nya? kasi po mas maraming pupunta para panoorin dahil kay MP.. tapos sasabihin ng iba na UK namang ang Market ni MP! e si manny WORLDWIDE ang Market... hindi man lahat ng taga pinoy sa pinas e makakapunta dun pero Maraming OFW sa U.S.A. baka nakakalimutan natin. ==and by the way... read nyo nalang yung sa news... mukhang 50-50 na ang mangyayari... Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Money Mayweather Is Out of ... Well ... MoneyWednesday, January 14, 2009Posted By Dave "Large" Larzelere 2:36 PM http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sport..._well_..._moneyRetired boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr., the self-anointed “Money May,” is apparently in debt to the tune of six milly to the IRS. What’s more, the feds don’t seem to care that Floyd’s nickname is “Money.” That’s carrying about as much weight as the time I went to the DMV and told them that my homies called me “Driver’s License.” See, I still had to take the test. Quote Link to comment
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