uaeboy25 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 valero is high risk+low pay fight. hindi ko sinasabing mananalo si valero pero dahil may punching power sya pwede syang tsumamba. any fighter can win inside the ring. and pacman must decide to fight high pay and it will magnet the crowd like dlh, hatton or even floyd gaywether. pacman is not getting younger. last opportunity nya na to to fight his idol. Quote Link to comment
webslinger Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 langhiya pag na ka tsamba si manny kay golden boy mas marami ang hahamon kay manny nyan.... Quote Link to comment
Mike_Lowrey21 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 (edited) ika nga ng isang pelikula napanood ko nuon it's all about the Benjamin$$$$$$$$$$ shempre yung mga maka Pacman sasabihin nila kaya ni Pacman si Dela Hoya pero kung objective ka parang mahirap makitang manalo si Pacman. Kunsabagay yun din sabi nila nung unang nilabanan ni Pacman si Barrera. Kita mo nanalo hehehe pero iba ito may asim pa, ika nga, si Oscar kaya matinding tsamba mangyayari kung manalo man si Pacman. Pero wala syang katalo talo kahit matalo siya. siguro gayahin lang ni Pacman si Barrera wag syang mag pa knockout at padikitin ang scorecard kung matalo man siya. at sa bigat ni De la Hoya mahirap patumbahin yun kahit sabihin pa niyang 11 weeks syang magte-training. langya hindi biro kung $15 to $20 million ang makukuha niya. kahit sabihin mong bawas yan ng $5 million dahil sa IRS ng Tate , porsyento ni Arum, Roach atbp. malaking pera pa rin yan. kaya hindi mo masisi si Pacman. 3 din anak niya at ang dami niyang angkan na tutulungan niya eh pag me $10 to $15 million ka kahit wag ka na magtrabaho ng 20 taon hehehe kung matuloy man ang Pacman-Dela Hoya, hiling ko lang sana hindi matambakan sa puntos si Pacman o ma knockout. bonus na lang sakin kung manalo siya sa KO or points pero hindi ko nakikita yun sa crystal ball ko bwehehehe Edited July 29, 2008 by Mike_Lowrey21 Quote Link to comment
brawler201 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 No lose situation for PACQUIAO. De La Hoya is the natural bigger man and was one of the best when he was at the top of his game. If Pacquiao wins then his stock gets the additional boost (if it still needs it), if he loses, he can shrug it off and it won't dent his legend or marketability. De La Hoya, at the end of the day is still the bigger man. Either way, win or lose, Pacquiao's coffers gets fat. Really fat (I'm betting it will be $ 20M payday). Once Golden Boy retires, Pacman will be the biggest draw in boxing. He'll probably fight Hatton (for at least $ 10M), Valero, Casamayor (this is a risky one as he is an even better counter puncher than JMM. And craftier) and even Mayweather if he ever wants to get out of retirement and claim his pound per pound crown. Prety Boywill probably flatten out Pacquiao. But who cares. We'll go back to the "bigger man" argument, nobody takes it against Manny that he lost, he cements further his legend (and HOF status as not backing down from ANYONE) and sits on his BILLIONS. A last big money fight for Manny down the road in a torch-passing symbolic bout is probably against British sensation Amir Khan. Manny could take him now and k*ll the boy and Manny would prevail if they met in their primes. We'll just pass the popocorn and enjoy the fights. Quote Link to comment
George Bush Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 This is a freakshow...if ever .... Quote Link to comment
fatso8 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 ^^ but i'd still watch it.. Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 manny pa rin. sigurado pag nanalo sya ke golden boy, wala nang pambato ang mexico ke manny wehehehe Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) manny pa rin. sigurado pag nanalo sya ke golden boy, wala nang pambato ang mexico ke manny wehehehe Oo dumiretso siya sa Super Welterweight (154lbs) kay Oscar pero may nalaktawan siyang Mexicano sa Welterweight (147lbs) si Antonio Margarito Ang daming boksingerong Mexicano hindi maubos ubos Edited July 30, 2008 by jerzz Quote Link to comment
Retired1234 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 kung ako hamunin ni dela hoya, kahit malamog ako basta my 20M! hehehe Quote Link to comment
uaeboy25 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 well si pacman lang ang may record na maraming itinumbang mexicano at wala pang mexicano na nakapagpatumba ng maraming pinoy boxer. un ang reason kaya sya tinawag na mexicutioner. sabmarami rin ang nakalusot sa kamao ni pacman tulad ng batang kapatid ni jmm. pero pacman is an icon. hindi na ako nag eexpect na matalo nya pa ang ilang maangas sa boxing. atleast napatahimik nya ang ilang champion. sa tingin nyo ba lalaban si pacman kay dlh ng walang partida. sa 140 of course magbabawas ng timbang si dlh. plus tumatanda na sya.its battle of two great warriors. may mga ego ang bawat isa. bawat isa sa kanila hindi papayag maknock out. kung maknock out man they will give their very best. yung labanan ni mayweather at dlh sabi nila circus. imagine galing sa middle weight si delahoya, bumaba sya ng timbang para labanan si mayweather. possible si delahoya kay pacman. tamang mag meet sila sa 140 atleast may partida si pacman. nung naglaban si david tua at lenox lewis highly contested though alam natin na mas malaki si lewis kay tua. sabi nga ng ilang analysis. lets forget the sizes. its a battle of great boxer. both of them may egoistic attitude na hindi magpapakockdown. i will not not bet kung sino mananalo if maglaban si pacman at delahoya kasi the winner will defend kung sino ang nasa best condition during that day. and pacman is very much in condition compare to delahoya.pacman is younger much faster than delahoya. pareho silang may history na nagpapatumba ng champions.its pride for a small man to bring down those bigger man. Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 pacman being knocked out by dela hoya is a one in a million lifetime opportunity. the question is if this is realistic. is it more realistic to see the golden boy being knocked out by pacman. this is what pacman's countrymen will be itching to see. Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 sa tingin nyo ba lalaban si pacman kay dlh ng walang partida. sa 140 of course magbabawas ng timbang si dlh. plus tumatanda na sya. (140 - 147 lbs) Welterweight yata ang napagkasunduan nila para half way (154 dlh/135 pac) Masyadong malaki at matanda na si Oscar para umabot pa ng 140 Quote Link to comment
sheik Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 kelangan ni manny si roach para manalo siya sa laban nila ni dela hoya. si roach ang taga bear hug kay dela hoya para masuntok ni manny ng solid straight left si dela hoya para ma KO Quote Link to comment
hardtohandle Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) i said im betting that its not gonna be a circus... meaning that pacquiao will not be overmatched and that it will be a close fight... but i did not say pacquiao is going to win... i am only saying he has a legit chance... so are you gonna bet on that? that it wont be dela hoya by a mile? that its not gonna be a circus? that pacman wont be overmatched? if you do, here's how it will go... if de la hoya knocks out pacman within the first 8 rounds or he wins a unanimous decision by at least an average of 5 points over each judges' scorecard then it is indeed a circus and pacman is overmatched... and you win... if de la hoya wins but but does not meet the above criteria or if pacman wins... then its not a "circus" and pacman is not overmatched... and i win... let me know if its a deal and how much are we putting on the table... Deal! Although the "circus" thing is very subjective. But let me tell you, those conditions are a handicap against Dela Hoya and it favors Pacman... But just the same I will take your bet. And as much as I want to involve money on this, I dont think its a good idea because its hard to collect money over here, heheheh! Lets just go into details when the fight pushed through... Edited July 31, 2008 by hardtohandle Quote Link to comment
uaeboy25 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 sa online betting tayo pumusta. tinitingnan ko kung marami ang pupusta kay delahoya. mas malaki panalo kay pacman pag marami pumusta kay delahoya. although mahirap sabihin ang mismatch. un nga lang mas popular si dlh kay pacman. un ang big reason bakit marami ang pupusta kay dlh. Quote Link to comment
simpatiko Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 This is a freakshow...if ever .... Yah! And that's for sure. even Goldenboy can make 145 but after some meals he can be back at 160...Pacman would be in real trouble... Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 siguro para patas sa UFC na lang sila magharap. lol Quote Link to comment
Tommy_Cruz Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 It's more natural for boxers to move up to a higher weight class rather than move down. Oscar at 147 lbs. will lose not just fat but muscle and power as well, just like what happened to Eric Morales when he forced his body to go down at 130 lbs. Goodluck GoldenBoy Quote Link to comment
uaeboy25 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Yah! And that's for sure. even Goldenboy can make 145 but after some meals he can be back at 160...Pacman would be in real trouble... well ung ganitong kundisyon sabi nga ni fredie roach will make one fighter lesser aggresive. to rin ang kondisyon ni pacman sa pacman vs jmm2. bumaba ang punching power ni pacman. nung nakita ni fredie na magiging gn2 kundisyon ni dlh kaya nasabi nya. pacman can beat dlh. Quote Link to comment
wrencheart Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Deal! Although the "circus" thing is very subjective. But let me tell you, those conditions are a handicap against Dela Hoya and it favors Pacman... But just the same I will take your bet. And as much as I want to involve money on this, I dont think its a good idea because its hard to collect money over here, heheheh! Lets just go into details when the fight pushed through... ok bro... you got a deal... lets wait if it will happen... :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
azayco Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Bobby Blo-blo Pacquiao is fighiting a bum from Thailand. Anyone here cares about this fight? Quote Link to comment
George Bush Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 ODLH vs MARGO - CLASH OF THE TITANS ODLH vs PACMAN - CLASH FOR THE CASH MARGO vs PACMAN - CLASH OF NO CLASS Quote Link to comment
George Bush Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 (edited) Oscar De La Hoya age 35 division light middleweight stance orthodox height 5′ 10½″ reach 73“ won 39 (KO 30) + lost 5 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 44 rounds boxed 300 : KO% 68.18 Manny Pacquiao age 29 division lightweight stance southpaw height 5′ 6½″ reach 67“ won 47 (KO 35) + lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 2 = 52 rounds boxed 283 : KO% 67.31 THE BIG DIFFERENCE ????? ( FREAK SHOW ) height 5′ 10½″ 5′ 6½″ = 4" HALOS ISANG ULO NA ITO reach 73" 67“ = 6" KALAHATING RULER PACMAN WILL BE DEVASTATED.....ALL FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY ......MONEY PACMAN KA TALAGA !!!! Edited August 5, 2008 by George Bush Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 PACMAN WILL BE DEVASTATED.....ALL FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY ......MONEY PACMAN KA TALAGA !!!! Kung ikaw ang bibigyan ng pagkakataon ng magkaroon ng $20M or P900M for 36 minutes of work (12 rounds) hindi mo ba susunggaban? Quote Link to comment
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