alpha quadrant Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 physical appearance - i go for altis... the design is better than civc.riding comfort - i still go for honda... have drive honda, toyota and nissan, and honda's suspension is still the best. toyota's suspension is the worst. service - their customer service are at par. friendly and accomodating.spare parts - toyota is the best. cheaper and readily available. Quote Link to comment
Google Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Google, dito lang naman sa Pinas sikat ang Honda.. tayo kseng mga Pinoy mahilig makigulo kung anong bago (kumpara sa ibang Japanese cars, Honda kse pinaka-last na pumasok sa bansa natin). Nakita mo na ba ang latest survey tska nabasa mo mga post ng mga nauna sa kin dito? Kaya.. papalubog na talaga ang Honda.. fad lang talaga sila.. unlike Toyota na household name na. After-sales na sinasabi ko... madalas wala silang piyesa! Sa tutuo lang, maka-Nissan ako.. lamig ng aircon eh. saan po point of comparison nyo aside from the philippines? sa states, i havta admit, mas sikat ang toyota. anyway, yaan mo na. both of my vehicles right now are mitsubishis.. Quote Link to comment
MTBCommuter Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 both have plusses and minusses.I'd still go for a bicycle, Just kidding Quote Link to comment
pedro_del_norte Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 lost taste of civic after witnessing how ricer's molest a good 'A' to 'B' vehicle. as for the altis, looks too weird for my taste, but it's less riced up so i guess it gets my vote. Quote Link to comment
Van Wilder Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Google, dito lang naman sa Pinas sikat ang Honda.. tayo kseng mga Pinoy mahilig makigulo kung anong bago (kumpara sa ibang Japanese cars, Honda kse pinaka-last na pumasok sa bansa natin). Nakita mo na ba ang latest survey tska nabasa mo mga post ng mga nauna sa kin dito? Kaya.. papalubog na talaga ang Honda.. fad lang talaga sila.. unlike Toyota na household name na. After-sales na sinasabi ko... madalas wala silang piyesa! Sa tutuo lang, maka-Nissan ako.. lamig ng aircon eh. palubog? really now....how come Honda is among the only ONE OF TWO jap car companies that is purely japanese owned. unlike your favorite nissan, it needed a takeover from Daimler-Chrysler during the late 90's coz they were already losing money. Having a cool aircon is not the sole basis to consider a car good. But i must admit, women like cars that has good air conditioning and i agree with you that Nissan's Calsonic AC is really good. With regards to Honda Casas, avoid those owned by the Ayala's, they are really known for bad service, with the exception of Honda Shaw. As for the suspension, we really can't tell which one is better because it really depends on how we drive the car, if you don't slow down in going thru deep potholes masisira talaga ang suspension mo. But if ywe base the suspension on the type they used HONDA - Macpherson strut/ double wishboneTOYOTA - Macpherson strut / Torsion Beam id pick the double wishbone combo anytime! it's less noisy and is less "hard" compared to the macphersons. it is also being used by jaguars, benzes and even FORMULA 1 cars. Macphersons are gaining popularity in modern cars now because it's cheaper as compared to the wishbones. too bad Honda used used macpherson's for their front suspension in the current civic, but the EK or 96 to 2000 civic used to have double wishbones all the way. Quote Link to comment
kidyot214 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 physical appearance - i go for altis... the design is better than civc.riding comfort - i still go for honda... have drive honda, toyota and nissan, and honda's suspension is still the best. toyota's suspension is the worst. service - their customer service are at par. friendly and accomodating.spare parts - toyota is the best. cheaper and readily available. i agree with you & just to add....service may also depend on whose managing.... *honda shaw are TOPS in after sales service.*toyota otis also gives good after sales service. though we differ opinion on physical appearance, i would say that honda has the slight edge coz yung stock rims ng alts parang masyadong maliit for the cars overall appearance. thus making it look like lancer(na parang nakatingala). but altis is more classy & luxurious specially if you dressed it up with 17" mags. aftermarket parts lamang ang toyota pero sa mga aesthetics nmn eh lamang ang honda dahil parang fad din eh? medyo in ngaun so daming available na "pamporma" parts. both are very good and sad to say eh medyo "wa say" ang manok kong mitsubishi lancer. :cry: Quote Link to comment
black cat Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 unlike your favorite nissan, it needed a takeover from Daimler-Chrysler during the late 90's coz they were already losing money. Having a cool aircon is not the sole basis to consider a car good. But i must admit, women like cars that has good air conditioning and i agree with you that Nissan's Calsonic AC is really good. Ahm, I know this is already OT.. I just wanna correct... Chrystler po.. sa Mitsubishi sila nag-invest... RENAULT ang nag-invest sa Nissan. And I just stated that I liked Nissan kse baka isipin nyong maka-Toyota ako kaya ko nasabi lahat ng negative against Honda ok? I never claimed that it was better. Btw, bad financial standing doesn't equate to less quality cars.. nasa Marketing and Packaging pa rin yan ng product. Fact is, masama na lang kse ang rep*tasyon ng Nissan dito sa Pinas dahil sa "kalampagin" daw tska mahal ang piyesa.. pero dun sa mga nakakaalam talaga sa kotse, nauna pa sila magkaron ng VTEC engine (iba nga lang ang term nila) atska yun back zonar (tama ba term at spelling ko?) at nagsigayahan na lang yun iba. Ayan.. i-research nyo na lang muna ha bago mag-react. Ah ewan.. Vios vs. Altis ang topic dito eh... atska wala naman talaga akong alam dyan, basta japorms lang ang auto ko atska malamig ang aircon.. masaya na ko nun! :cool: Quote Link to comment
suzuki Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 (edited) Ah ewan.. Vios vs. Altis ang topic dito eh... atska wala naman talaga akong alam dyan, basta japorms lang ang auto ko atska malamig ang aircon.. masaya na ko nun! yeah baby!!! :cool: saka SQ ang sound system happy na rin ako.!!!! hehehe i used to drive a 1965 beetle with really LOUD sound sys and that was really cool !!! yes boys ang girls ....kahit ano basta tumatakbo cool pa rin sa kin!!! now post your ride pix na!!! Edited September 23, 2004 by suzuki Quote Link to comment
gwapogi Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 i agree with you & just to add....service may also depend on whose managing.... *honda shaw are TOPS in after sales service.*toyota otis also gives good after sales service. though we differ opinion on physical appearance, i would say that honda has the slight edge coz yung stock rims ng alts parang masyadong maliit for the cars overall appearance. thus making it look like lancer(na parang nakatingala). but altis is more classy & luxurious specially if you dressed it up with 17" mags. aftermarket parts lamang ang toyota pero sa mga aesthetics nmn eh lamang ang honda dahil parang fad din eh? medyo in ngaun so daming available na "pamporma" parts. both are very good and sad to say eh medyo "wa say" ang manok kong mitsubishi lancer. :cry: ...honga, nakakalungkot sa thread na ito pag mitsu ang kotse mo... can relate... huhuhu... :cry: :cry: :cry: Quote Link to comment
Van Wilder Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 (edited) Ahm, I know this is already OT.. I just wanna correct... Chrystler po.. sa Mitsubishi sila nag-invest... RENAULT ang nag-invest sa Nissan. oh sh*t sorry renault nga pala... pero dun sa mga nakakaalam talaga sa kotse, nauna pa sila magkaron ng VTEC engine (iba nga lang ang term nila) and oh ...im sorry HONDA is the pioneer in variable valve timing technology you can read these articles if you want. http://www.4strokes.com/articles/honda/soichiro.asphttp://www.mr2sc.com/websites/articles/vvt.htm Mitsu's MIVEC, Nissan's VTC/VVL, toyota's VVTi, Porsche's Variocam and others only followed after Honda. Btw, bad financial standing doesn't equate to less quality cars.. huh? look what's happening to mitsu right now, along with their financial crisis comes lots of recalls in their vehicles particularly in japan and other parts of asia. no money = less R & D = poor quality Edited September 23, 2004 by Van Wilder Quote Link to comment
rid_dick2005 Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 guys need ur expert advised.. im goin to buy a second hand car in nov my friend wu has a friend also ay nag offer sa akin ng second hand altis and honda city modeled 2000 yung city is worth 350thou and the altis is worth 450thou.. is tht ok? also ang natatakbo palang daw ng both cars is 6500 kilometers both are first owned... can u advised me guys which to chose or not? this is my first owned car kung sakali.. any suggestions kung anong type of car ang bibilhin ko my busget is 500thou lang.. hope you can help me tnx a lot!!! Quote Link to comment
Google Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 (edited) guys need ur expert advised.. im goin to buy a second hand car in nov my friend wu has a friend also ay nag offer sa akin ng second hand altis and honda city modeled 2000 yung city is worth 350thou and the altis is worth 450thou.. is tht ok? also ang natatakbo palang daw ng both cars is 6500 kilometers both are first owned... can u advised me guys which to chose or not? this is my first owned car kung sakali.. any suggestions kung anong type of car ang bibilhin ko my busget is 500thou lang.. hope you can help me tnx a lot!!!<{POST_SNAPBACK}> size wise, get the altis. engine wise, get the altis. fuel efficiency wise, get the altis.maintenance wise, get the altis.spare parts availability, altis has more spare parts available (although konti lang ang lamang....the city also has parts available, kaya lang medyo mas mahal kesa sa altis. but since, you are a new car owner, i will still prefer the ease and reasonable price of altis compared to the city...) in short, get the altis.... and since you are a new car owner, i would like to invite you to join us at http://www.tsikot.com. see you there.... Edited October 15, 2004 by Google Quote Link to comment
thirteen Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 size wise, get the altis. engine wise, get the altis. fuel efficiency wise, get the altis.maintenance wise, get the altis.spare parts availability, altis has more spare parts available (although konti lang ang lamang....the city also has parts available, kaya lang medyo mas mahal kesa sa altis. but since, you are a new car owner, i will still prefer the ease and reasonable price of altis compared to the city...) in short, get the altis....<{POST_SNAPBACK}> While I generally agree with you on most of those points, there is no way an Altis beats a City on fuel efficiency. On a trip from Manila to Laoag and back, the City we were using consumed just past half a tank of gas (20+ liters). But between the altis and city rid_dick2005 mentioned, the city seems rather expensive even if you consider the low mileage. Quote Link to comment
keiichi_morisato Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I've been driving a honda civic for almost 3 years now....well, what can i say...: HOnda, -the engine has decent power having a 1.6L vtec engine producing 13ohp -the ergonomics is fine and very roomy.. we've tried loading it up to 7 people and its just enough -it has a good fuel consumption... it city roads, i runs upto 10km to 10.5km per liter -it has a sporty and proportionate design -easy to modify But; -the suspension is quite noisy after changing my mags to 17 inch. (must be mags) -the maintainance is quite expensive. I spent almost 12thousand a year. Toyota -it has a cheaper maintenance cost -nice and quite suspension unlike civic -cheaper parts But; -the engine is weak.... only producing 124hp with its 1.6L although its 1.8L produces 142hp -its not roomy enough -try to look at its rear wheel.... it looks too small and very unproportionate to its body -I don't like the design its too big too look outside Quote Link to comment
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