plug Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 12:08 PM, courtesanhunter said: nakakalungkot isipin na madami pala ang walang pakialam sa kapwa nila sa massage sector. mga tao na willing ipahamak ang buong community. kahit papaano nagagamot pa ang mga STD o STI. pero wala pang totoong lunas laban sa HIV at AIDS. pwede kang makipag raw intercourse thinking na sayo lang yun ginagawa ng service provider. pero paano kung ginagawa din niya yun sa iba pa niyang mga kliyente? tapos ang kliyente susubukan ding gawin yun sa lahat ng makukumbinsi nila na service provider? kaya naman risky ang sitwasyon para sa lahat ng mga kliyente na inaavail yung mga babae na pumapayag sa raw intercourse. Here is my opinion since umiwas na ako since last year. It was our third time and my last dahil I have to protect somebody else. Years before the pandemic mas common yata ang unprotected sex sa spakol kaysa mp. Factors are medyo nagkakakursunadan yung dalawa, naging regular, minsan lang makatikim si thera kaya pag napainitan kalimut na yung cd and malaking mag tip si client kaya bumibigay si thera. I have heard of a client at minsan ikukwento pa siya ni thera na may dalang test result to convince a thera for unprotected sex for 10k sa spakol. Nang nag open muli mga spakol at mp nitong pandemic eto mga signs na unprotected sex will always exist. Sabi ni mpa "di ka sanay may cd dapat sa iyo may regular ka". Suggesting na gawin mo siyang regular at papayag siya sa unprotected sex. Sabi ni another mpa "gusto ko ginagawa mo basta hwag mo lang ipapasok". First encounter yan who knows sa susunod pabayaan ka na lang dahil tuluyan na niyang nagustuhan ang ginagawa mo. Mga salita ng theras sa spakol: Pumasok ang ulo sabay sabi ni thera "no". Marahil dahil first encounter so baka sa susunod yes na. "ayaw mo bang gumamit ng cd" habang dumidiskarte kang ipasok. Meaning kung itutuloy mo di na rin siya tatanggi para pagbigyan ka. "hindi naman papasok yan kasi kinokontrol ko ang aking harap". Maaring sa first encounter pero pag inulitan mo palagay ko pabayaan ka lang. Sabi ni client "kanina kung itinuloy ko pipigilan mo ako". Sagot ni thera "hindi". Walang katotohanan sa sinasabi ni thera/mpa na sa iyo lang siya pumapayag ng unprotected sex. Usually naman yung nauna sa iyo ang carrier then nahawa si thera/mpa then ikaw naman na kasunod considering malinis si thera/mpa. I had mine years ago kasi marami pala kaming bf ni mpa. Doon ako medyo umiwas sa mp and shifted to spakol. Buti tulo lang. Quote Link to comment
frost999 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 May kumukuha ba dito ng mga std test packages sa hi precision? Anong difference nung screening and comprehensive packages? Anong recommended na kunin? Anong specimens kailangan iprovide? May pre-test requirements ba? (e.g. fasting) Gano katagal gagawin usually yung buong package? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
vanderboy Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 18 hours ago, plug said: Here is my opinion since umiwas na ako since last year. It was our third time and my last dahil I have to protect somebody else. Years before the pandemic mas common yata ang unprotected sex sa spakol kaysa mp. Factors are medyo nagkakakursunadan yung dalawa, naging regular, minsan lang makatikim si thera kaya pag napainitan kalimut na yung cd and malaking mag tip si client kaya bumibigay si thera. I have heard of a client at minsan ikukwento pa siya ni thera na may dalang test result to convince a thera for unprotected sex for 10k sa spakol. Nang nag open muli mga spakol at mp nitong pandemic eto mga signs na unprotected sex will always exist. Sabi ni mpa "di ka sanay may cd dapat sa iyo may regular ka". Suggesting na gawin mo siyang regular at papayag siya sa unprotected sex. Sabi ni another mpa "gusto ko ginagawa mo basta hwag mo lang ipapasok". First encounter yan who knows sa susunod pabayaan ka na lang dahil tuluyan na niyang nagustuhan ang ginagawa mo. Mga salita ng theras sa spakol: Pumasok ang ulo sabay sabi ni thera "no". Marahil dahil first encounter so baka sa susunod yes na. "ayaw mo bang gumamit ng cd" habang dumidiskarte kang ipasok. Meaning kung itutuloy mo di na rin siya tatanggi para pagbigyan ka. "hindi naman papasok yan kasi kinokontrol ko ang aking harap". Maaring sa first encounter pero pag inulitan mo palagay ko pabayaan ka lang. Sabi ni client "kanina kung itinuloy ko pipigilan mo ako". Sagot ni thera "hindi". Walang katotohanan sa sinasabi ni thera/mpa na sa iyo lang siya pumapayag ng unprotected sex. Usually naman yung nauna sa iyo ang carrier then nahawa si thera/mpa then ikaw naman na kasunod considering malinis si thera/mpa. I had mine years ago kasi marami pala kaming bf ni mpa. Doon ako medyo umiwas sa mp and shifted to spakol. Buti tulo lang. Accurate af, mabilis lang talaga makalive dito... pero kung gusto mo makarami at di makadamay, magkapote ka palagi, mapa oral / vaginal / anal pa yan. Thx for sharing sir. Trophy for u Quote Link to comment
vanderboy Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 15 hours ago, frost999 said: May kumukuha ba dito ng mga std test packages sa hi precision? Anong difference nung screening and comprehensive packages? Anong recommended na kunin? Anong specimens kailangan iprovide? May pre-test requirements ba? (e.g. fasting) Gano katagal gagawin usually yung buong package? Thanks! So, I think I have some experience here.. given that I've done this test several times every year since I've started.. When you compare the screening vs the comprehensive it's testing for the same things not including the optionals. But the test types are different. They both test for the following: - HIV(4th gen ab/ag) - Hepatitis B & C - Syphillis(rpr, tppa) - CBC & Urinalysis (good indicator for possible infections) I've asked two doctors about this, and they've said the screening package should suffice for most cases. However, both packages do not test specifically for gonorrhea or chlamydia.. which is unfortunate since those are some of the easiest and most common std's you can get.(you can get them as part of the optional, but they are expensive!) Hsv tests are prone to false positives which is why it's best to test for it when you have symptoms(ask ur doctor, this is just my opinion) Specimen: blood and urine No testing requirments, though I would suggest the following since they tend to affect results for urinalysis: - avoid heavy physical activity at least a day before. This sometimes cause blood to be postive in urine. UTI can also cause the same so it can be confusing. - avoid masturbating or sex at least a day before as well. Same reason as above - avoid medication if possible, otherwise just inform them of what you're taking. - avoid alcohol at least a day before. Actual test for std screening only takes a few minutes.. but usually about less than an hour depending on the queue. My longest wait time was 3 hours when there were a lot of people. Test results are posted online usually within 24 hours for everything, some will be faster than others. Please also note that there are different testing windows for different std's, I myself though only go for the 4-6 weeks post exposure accompanied with one baseline tests after a risky exposure.(risky: condom broke, live, etc.) My usual is every 3 months I go for an std screening along with urine culture tests. Stay safe and happy hunting sir! Quote Link to comment
frost999 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 5 hours ago, vanderboy said: So, I think I have some experience here.. given that I've done this test several times every year since I've started.. When you compare the screening vs the comprehensive it's testing for the same things not including the optionals. But the test types are different. They both test for the following: - HIV(4th gen ab/ag) - Hepatitis B & C - Syphillis(rpr, tppa) - CBC & Urinalysis (good indicator for possible infections) I've asked two doctors about this, and they've said the screening package should suffice for most cases. However, both packages do not test specifically for gonorrhea or chlamydia.. which is unfortunate since those are some of the easiest and most common std's you can get.(you can get them as part of the optional, but they are expensive!) Hsv tests are prone to false positives which is why it's best to test for it when you have symptoms(ask ur doctor, this is just my opinion) Specimen: blood and urine No testing requirments, though I would suggest the following since they tend to affect results for urinalysis: - avoid heavy physical activity at least a day before. This sometimes cause blood to be postive in urine. UTI can also cause the same so it can be confusing. - avoid masturbating or sex at least a day before as well. Same reason as above - avoid medication if possible, otherwise just inform them of what you're taking. - avoid alcohol at least a day before. Actual test for std screening only takes a few minutes.. but usually about less than an hour depending on the queue. My longest wait time was 3 hours when there were a lot of people. Test results are posted online usually within 24 hours for everything, some will be faster than others. Please also note that there are different testing windows for different std's, I myself though only go for the 4-6 weeks post exposure accompanied with one baseline tests after a risky exposure.(risky: condom broke, live, etc.) My usual is every 3 months I go for an std screening along with urine culture tests. Stay safe and happy hunting sir! This is very informative. Thank you sir! Quote Link to comment
Neknekbur Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 6:19 PM, plug said: Sabi ni mpa "di ka sanay may cd dapat sa iyo may regular ka". Suggesting na gawin mo siyang regular at papayag siya sa unprotected sex. Parang ganito si Gigi sa wild ata Quote Link to comment
vanderboy Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/8/2023 at 6:52 PM, frost999 said: This is very informative. Thank you sir! So just to add.. it looks like they changed up the optionals recently.. and these were added: CT/GC/TV PCR Test (Urine) or (swab) - I'd personally choose urine. It might be a better option as a compliment to the std screening package, rather than the urine culture.. but I'll probably end up doing both with how I am. Quote Link to comment
vanderboy Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Small update for the CT/GC/TV PCR Test (Urine) - best to call the branch you will visit for availability. It seems it isn't always available. - price is at 3.8k, so along with the package 18 it will roughly cost you 6k. - despite the price, I would highly recommended it to be part of your screening as it covers the 3 most common std's you can get. Quote Link to comment
Neknekbur Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 21 hours ago, vanderboy said: Small update for the CT/GC/TV PCR Test (Urine) - best to call the branch you will visit for availability. It seems it isn't always available. - price is at 3.8k, so along with the package 18 it will roughly cost you 6k. - despite the price, I would highly recommended it to be part of your screening as it covers the 3 most common std's you can get. Red package Sir? Quote Link to comment
Dice25 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) Kung sa hj lng nagkakaroon din ng chlamydia ? dahil sa oil na ginagamit din sa ibang Gm?? So much better kung magdala nlng ng sariling oil tapus ayun ipagamit sa thera Edited April 14, 2023 by Dice25 Quote Link to comment
vanderboy Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 10 hours ago, Dice25 said: Kung sa hj lng nagkakaroon din ng chlamydia ? dahil sa oil na ginagamit din sa ibang Gm?? So much better kung magdala nlng ng sariling oil tapus ayun ipagamit sa thera I don't see hj's as a risk, and the oil isn't being recycled Quote Link to comment
frost999 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 On 4/13/2023 at 4:56 PM, vanderboy said: Small update for the CT/GC/TV PCR Test (Urine) - best to call the branch you will visit for availability. It seems it isn't always available. - price is at 3.8k, so along with the package 18 it will roughly cost you 6k. - despite the price, I would highly recommended it to be part of your screening as it covers the 3 most common std's you can get. Gano ba katagal yung results dapat? Nakapagtest nako earlier this week, so far may results na lahat sa online except for hiv test. Matagal ba talaga yun? May namention kasi yung nurse na 2-3 working days, tapos may namention din na after 30 days, di ko alam kung mali narinig ko or something Quote Link to comment
vanderboy Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 7 hours ago, frost999 said: Gano ba katagal yung results dapat? Nakapagtest nako earlier this week, so far may results na lahat sa online except for hiv test. Matagal ba talaga yun? May namention kasi yung nurse na 2-3 working days, tapos may namention din na after 30 days, di ko alam kung mali narinig ko or something usually, the longest I've waited for an HIV test is until next day noon. I would suggest you go in person/call the hotline to see what's causing the delay. I've had one instance that caused me great stress back in 2019 since it was already over 24 hours and they haven't updated my HIV test.. turns out there was just an issue that caused the delay. PM nalang sir if may further questions ka, baka private na kasi. Quote Link to comment
frost999 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 7 hours ago, vanderboy said: usually, the longest I've waited for an HIV test is until next day noon. I would suggest you go in person/call the hotline to see what's causing the delay. I've had one instance that caused me great stress back in 2019 since it was already over 24 hours and they haven't updated my HIV test.. turns out there was just an issue that caused the delay. PM nalang sir if may further questions ka, baka private na kasi. Ok thanks. Mukhang daming delay dito sa branch ko, kahit yung ibang tests more than 24 hours ko pa nakuha Quote Link to comment
Neknekbur Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Yung sa mga loveyourself branches nag ooffer din free testing. HIV, syphilis. May nakatry na po sa inyo? Quote Link to comment
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