- The Godfather -

I might be mistaken, but in this kind of relationship...i think "Chemistry" is of utmost importance.

Like Chemistry in the real world, some elements will combine with others to form compounds. Hydrogen for example when combined with Oxygen in just the right amount will form water (needed for life), and that same Hydrogen when combined with Chlorine will result to Hydrochloric/Muriatic acid (needed for...cleaning the toilet). In the same way, we GMs interact with people in our lives, including our dear therapists, and each interaction produces different "chemical" combination so to speak...and sometimes, we combine with a few people to produce the legendary substance known as the "philosopher's stone" that can turn anything into gold...ahh.. that "elixir of life!"

I would like to share a conversation between a thera and a GM that goes something like this...

Therapist: Tinatanong nila kung mag jowa daw tayo.

GM: Anong sagot mo?

Therapist: Hindi ko jowa yun

GM: Tama ka, alam mo naman na di tayo pwedeng mag-jowa. Hindi rin tayo pwedeng mag-asawa. Pero pwede naman tayong maging mag-masaya. OK lang ba sayo na maging mag-masaya na lang tayo?

Therapist: Sige, ok lang.

GM: Ayan ah, mag-"masaya" na tayo...yan na ang relasyon natin...hehehe

I suppose that Therapist and that GM have good chemistry...eh?

ILlegitimate

terminal

Rolex

glaring

quick + sand = quicksand

scent

spelunking

Matahari

Falling in love on a therapist is very hard to believe for both side either for a GM or therapist herself. But i experience this one yesterday. Its too juvenile to say that i fall for her easily, but whay can i do this is what i feel and i want to let her know that somebody as in somebody can love them seriously.

 

It doesnt matter if she's single mom i can accept that. Even shebis asking me "is it alright that this is my job??" Yes i will accept that. Because im that type of guy.

 

I told her my story that i've been through worst from my previous relationship and i will not elaborate regarding this anymore.

 

But my point is that if you that "spark" as you are saying i know you have the time to read this. I was holding to your word that there was a "spark" between us. Even though is hard for both of us i know we have alot of question going on our mind. As i am saying to you I dont care about then job that you are having right now, its just that its you thatbi want to know, i want to be with. Because if we kept on thinking that way we will never understand each other.

 

 

I dont care what other people or GM will have to stay regarding on this post but i just want to know that the time that i saw and be with you, i'd wished that someday we can be together in a way that we want to be.

"Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass." (Excerpt from Desiderata)

Proceed with your planned actions if you must...but exercise caution, for the world is full of trickery!

wag mo na subukan, walang betadine para sa pusong nasugatan.

Actually meron.

Only TIME heals wounded hearts.....hehehe

 

Because we both moved on after our failed attempt at a relationship...and now, I have affections for someone else. I doubt she has feelings for me too at this point in her life.

 

Technically I am still single, so is she....Like what I said, I don't know what the future holds. It may very well be we will reignite our previous sparks, or we may just go in different directions never crossing paths again.,,ah the beauty of life, always on your toes on what the tomorrow may bring...

Indeed, life is full of surprises!

"Sometimes, what you're looking for comes when you're not looking at all."

Back then, I had a ‘relationship’ (I don’t know how you call it) with a thera. We both knew our boundaries. I’m married and she’s a thera, no strings attach. I spend some of sneakiest and craziest nights with her. I enjoyed her company and I hope she felt the same. There are times that I’d rather spend my time with her than my wife. There were also times when she would take a leave just to be with me. But every good thing must come to an end. My ex-wife caught this sneaky affair. I decided to cut my communications with her and save my marriage. But unluckily my marriage was not save. My affair with a thera also ended. I’m left all alone.

 

After my first failed marriage, I re-married, had a son and relocated to the province. And everything went well. Until one day, out of boredom I tried visiting this site again. I saw posts and messages of her. Out of curiosity, I tried checking her profile again. Ever since our last conversation, I didn't hear anything about her. The last time I checked, she already quit. I didn't know that she returned to the spa business again and now active. So I message her. During those times, I really don't care if she replies or not. Besides I’m now happily remarried and I know I'm done with these things. But she replied to my messages. Then I found myself wanting to visit her. I told her that soon I'll surprise her. After few months of exchanging messages, finally I had the chance of visiting her. Damn it! It was a great night of reminiscing the past. It was a great night indeed. It's like two Xs meeting again to put an end to an unfinished business. I don't need to elaborate, you can just imagine what happened inside the room. s@%t happens, I'm beginning to be hooked to this vice again.

 

After that night, she no longer replied to my numerous calls and messages. That may be is what you call closure. Until we meet again dear thera.

She administered the "coup de grâce" with that last night EScapade...eh?

Just sharing...para dun sa mga tinamaan ng pana ni kupido...nasugatan...luhaan...and still "surviving!"

Yes, meron dn naman po nagttangka.Pero wla pa nkkalusot so far.Haha...Like what I said previously, its difficult to trust in this environment.Why does GM like me? Is it because of my looks?Is he looking for love or just free sex?Too many questions that need to be sufficiently answered befor I open myself.I am not closing my door to a Thera-Client relationship but the GM has to bring a really big broom to sweep me off my feet.

I suppose that "really big broom" starts with a "really small friendship."

 

 

Hi PPK,

 

 

Good morning.

 

I am not certain how young/old you are but I was wondering what you would say when you arrive at your house after a spa session, a female loved one like your wife/daughter/sister asks, "Saan ka galing?" Do you answer, "Sa Midas, nagpa blowjob kay May." or would you select your words carefully and answer along the lines of "Sa Antipolo, may pinuntahan lang"?

 

Both are technically true. But one statement would serve your purpose better. The fact that we are in this forum means that we, one way or another patronize this industry. As such, most of us also know what this environment entails. For GMs, it means conjuring excuses to wives/GFs, sparing money for this vice which otherwise would have better uses. For theras, it means we manage the perception of our parents/relatives to make sure they are kept in the dark about the real nature of the job, wishing everyday that no family member or a close acquaintance walks into the spa or reads the forums and sees our provocative pictures. We do not need any reminder of these things as we all walked into this situation with open minds. Having said that, I do not think any of us are in the moral high ground to lecture anyone about truth, honesty and God.

 

Let us all enjoy the business in its intended purpose. We are here to provide GMs a quick and uncomplicated release and theras earn a quick buck. If in the process, something else like love develops, then so be it. Both parties know exactly know that they are getting into. Whether they succeed in that endeavor, that is the question both must face knowing full well where and how they met in the first place.

 

Good discussion sir. Enjoyed reading this thread very much. :D

I admire the way that curvermay crafted her posts...with finesse!

On lying..."let him who is without sin cast the first stone"

On Falling for a Therapist..."Love is just a word until somebody comes along and gives it a meaning. Love is spelled T-I-M-E...if you cannot invest time in a relationship, forget it!"

He's lucky ?? No he's not .

 

I am lucky .. oh not just lucky im

Blessed enough =)

Kudos to you Ms. Cooper and your GM...both of you are lucky to be in love...keep it up!

Actually sir, in my humble opinion, the 2 are inadvertently linked. For a romanticized client-thera relationship to work, both have to see beyond the profession. Of course I agree that realistic expections need to be defined:

 

1.) I am a therapist. It is my job to be intimate to a client. I kiss, I hug, I get naked and I make sexual overtures(without the actual sex) with a GM. As a would be BF, can you handle that? Everyday while I am still in the industry? Can you tone down your jealousy and actually accept what I do?

 

2.) Can you respect me enough when I say I will leave the industry at my own choosing? A lot of GMs suffer from the White Knight complex. Once they encounter a thera that they think they like, they make it their personal missions to be the men that take us out of the this profession and give us "better" lives. For some therapists, that may be acceptable. Unfortunately, that is not my cup of tea. I want to make my own path in this world, I want to make my own mistakes, I want to establish my life through my own sweat and tears. At the end of the day, It was my decision to venture into this profession, I would like to leave as I entered, my choice and mine alone. So to aspiring Mr. Right, can you do that for me?

 

To those who appreciate what I share here, thank you. I try to respond to PMs as much as I can, but please understand I can only do so before/after work or in between client engagements. Thus, my replies are not what you can say "real time". :D

1. I admire therapists, like curvermay, who has an "exit" plan so to speak in leaving this industry. This "exit plan," coupled with organize action/effort and lots of self-discipline (i.e., self control) will become a reality.

2. I also agree to that statement that a lot of GMs are suffering from this "White Knight" complex, including myself! ...but this mentality will not materialize unless there is a definite plan (for the exodus of the thera), definite actions and self-discipline.

3. It is not enough for a therapist that she would like or wish to get out of this industry. Wishing and liking will not push oneself to move into action. One must DESIRE to get our of this industry, and the enthusiasm from this desire will initiate the action and self discipline make it happen. DESIRE = PAGNANASA....pag malakas ang pagnanasa mo sa isang bagay na iyong inaasam, makukuha mo ito!...hehehe

So as you can see, the GM (White Knight) can only assist the therapist in crafting the plan and support her on some of the actions needed...but only the therapist (and nobody else) can have that desire (to get out of the industry) and self-discipline (to pursue the plan) to make it a reality.

Happy New Year to all...my desire is for you to be happy....SMILE!

Anyway, anu payo nyo kung one-sided lang ang pagfafall na nagaganap? hahah! Si client lang nagfafall kay thera? pero kay thera, work lang talaga?

 

Should the client just change his mindset and enjoy the moment?

Just my two cents on how to handle a one-sided "love affair" with a therapist!

Kung OK lang sa kanya (your therapist), gawin mo siyang inspirasyon to do something good para sa kanya at para sa iyo. Gawin mo siyang inspiration to shape-up and hit the gym. Make her your inspiration to write prose, poetry or even a book. Make her your inspiration to start a new hobby, a new skill a new life. Make her your inspiration to start a new business... (para sa kanya para masustentuhan niya mga dependents niya without relying in this industry).

Basta, your mindset must be...BE INSPIRED!

 

 

i agree with your point sir mister yozo and the opinion given by the beautiful ms may. but one reason why relationships never get off the ground is that we spend far too long trying to analyze the situation, trying to determine if it's a sure thing and we end up letting the opportunity pass us by.

 

falling in love is like riding a roller coaster. when the ride starts, it moves slowly as it goes up and gathers momentum for the ride down. it adds twists and turns and even loops but at the end of the ride you feel a rush, a certain amount of joy that you want to do it again and again and again. you also end up wondering why you do it in the first place when you know that there will be all those highs and lows but that's what makes it wonderful and that is the reason why there's always a longer line for the ride on the roller coaster than a carousel. the thrill of the ride always outweighs the safe feeling of a sure thing.

 

so go ahead. take the plunge. be ready and be prepared. but always remember that once the opportunity passes you by, you'll end up forever wondering about the girl who got away

Just enjoy the thrill, the excitement, the pleasure, the adventure of the ride so to speak...while it lasts.

At the end of the day/ride/relationship...we only have happy memories to savor with no regrets!

...and there is no such thing as a "sure thing" in this dog-eat-dog world of ours...no such thing as a perfect relationship with a therapist/officemate/wife/GF/whatever....Murphy's Law catches up somewhere, sometime, somehow...so we really have to enjoy and appreciate it while we are in it.

 

I said in my previous post that we humans are emotional beings and if we fall, we just allow ourselves to fall...However, we are also rational beings capable of thought. Hence, you can follow your heart but you should always have foresight on how things will unfold. Imagine falling in love as akin to skydiving. Just because there is a cliff doesn't mean you just jump blindly and let the wind carry you wherever. You should still check the wind speed and direction, target landing spots, safety checks on the equipment etc. Doing all these little things will ensure your dive is done in the proper way and as a result, amplifies your experience.

 

In your case, you said you are falling for a thera. I assume you want to pursue her? If you do, ask point blank if she is already with someone. Right there and then, depending on her answer, you can make a decision based on the situation and conditions at hand.

I like the skydiving analogy...this is right on point...bulls eye!

Always mix caution with risk...and falling for somebody (a thera, an officemate, a friend, any body) is always a big risk. Yet, what is the essence of life without the risk of adventure?

Ahhh...

“I remembered the fox. One runs the risk of crying a bit if one allows oneself to be tamed.”

― Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, The Little Prince“

Here's an excerpt from a song by James Blunt (You're Beautiful)

"You're beautiful, it's true.

I will never be with you."

You may want to use "The Golden Rule" principle as guide in dealing with your brother.

Treat him as you want to be treated if you are in his situation!

A "Yellow" light!

Tatlong beses yellow light sa tatlong magkakasunod na intersections.

Sobrang good vibes...the best things in life are free.

don't get me wrong. if you love a thera and you have a lot of confidence in her then you won't be bothered by the FRs. maybe it will agitate you a little because you will wonder if the guy writing it has an agenda on your lady.

Loving a thera needs a complicated heart and mind and the same time you must posses unconditional love and never ask love for return.Just cherish the moment of togetherness either long term or short term affair.

Agreed to the points of view of both masters "wheeljack65" and "MR. VDL." The delineation between business "transaction" and personal "relation" must be clear, else it would really become very complicated.

Pag "TRANSAKSYON" ang usapan, your logical mind takes control of the event and it is expected that you get your money's worth. You pay this amount and expect to get this service, you pay for that amount and must get that kind of service. If for one reason or another you are short-changed, you have the right to complain to management or gripe in the forum. That is how business transaction works. Simply put, you must get the fair and square "Value for Money."

Pag "RELASYON" naman and usapan, your psychological mind takes control of the situation and you are not expected to get your money's worth. You pay this amount and get a lousy service, so what? you value the relationship more than the money. You pay that amount and get above board service? So what, sometimes relationships have perks and privileges not provided to mere mortals. That's the essence of a relationship, you pay and never expect for a fair return!

If indeed you are in love with a therapist, then you're in a relationship!

PS

For business transactions, I always go for win-win or no deal. I once have an experience with a top thera, that for some reason or another, we cannot agree to a "win-win" transaction. I decided to go for no-deal, no-ES and no hard feelings. I still give her a fair tip for the massage, which she deserved.

For real relationships, it's always a two-way street. While you give without expecting something in return, you will soon find out that she too is also willing to give something to you without expecting any fair return on her part. And that what make's a relationship wonderful. At the end of the day, both of you will end-up being in a win-win situation.