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toruk makto

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    Lol, Misogyny? Hate? Anger? my goodness, ang OA naman ng choice of words mo. Ayan nga ako pa nagsabi magpalamig muna ng ulo yan si Cardingtigas bago bumalik dito. And what would be the sense for me to actually hate anyone? Sige nga? On the other hand there is all the sense in the world for me to be hated for the things I say here by the people na natatamaan kasi nasa ganung sitwasyon sila. Di ba? Case in point today natawag akong tanga, puro hangin, di alam sinasabi, when the most painful word I have thrown is perhaps "in denial" "emotionally immature". So I have been on the receiving end of hate mo.

     

    But in the same way, the same post of mine that you are lambasting has been "liked" by another reader. Like I said, I am a genius for the same reasons others call me an idiot. Don't worry, I am all used to it. I did not come to this thread expecting Id make a lot of friends as I understand that people come here for validation.

     

    Finally, just because I am not supportive of the idea ibig sabihin I am actually stopping anyone for making decisions for themselves. Several times, I genuinely gave them the benefit of the doubt, but that does not mean I have to give them the validation they are asking for. The problem is what I say is directed on the issue itself and not particularly on anyone. But every now and then, wala tayong magagawa, may mga balat sibuyas na lagi, who has to take the issue personally.

     

    bordering misogyny is what i said. if the tone of my post is lambasting im sorry you feel that way. i intended to put some wisdom that we cant control other peoples action more so their feelings. IMO your so hype up on other GMs falling for these women. mature or immature of them is not our problem anymore. just chill and all will be well believe me. things happen for a reason.

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    Ok First of all, don't be so naive and immature. Sarcasm is an effective ingredient in comedy, don't you watch south park? Ano ka ba naman, bakit ba mabenta jokes at patama ni Vice Ganda sa masa? Hindi ba dahil sa brand nya ng sarcasm? Ikaw ang may obvious na dahilan para mapikon kasi sensitive sayo ang issue. Kaya nga natanong ka nung isa dito, kaya ka lang ba nagre-reply kasi sobrang direct hit sayo mga nasasabi ko?

     

    Second, come on! You are looking for validation sa mga sinasabi mo sa thread na ito. No pun intended, but it is true. Your psyche is just not accepting it, but all the things you are saying is blowing your psyche's cover. There are many ways you can seek validation. 1. Find people na maririnig mo lang lahat ng gusto mo. 2. Keep arguing with them, find loopholes sa sinasabi nila until you can convince yourself na mali sila, ignorante lang, bitter sa mundo etc etc. Kaya nga, eto lang ang structure ng argument mo ha

     

    "Naranasan nyo na umibig sa thera? OO? Aba hindi kasi successful relationship nyo, kawawa naman kayo, user yung nakuha nyo kasi. bitter lang kayo sa mundo"

    "Narasanan nyo na umibig sa thera? Hindi? Aba ignorante kayo, bat di nyo muna subukan para malaman nyo."

    "Sangayon kayo sa sinasabi ko? Naranasan mo na umibig sa thera? OO/Hindi? Aba brother you are someone who understands from the heart (sorry I am laughing as I type this I can't really get over this stupid line)."

     

    Eto pa isang walking contradiction mo na di mo napapansin. Una

     

    "hindi mo pa kasi nasubukan umibig sa thera, gawin mo muna para malaman mo"

    Tapos maya ng konti

    "Hindi ko naman hinihikayat na tularan nyo ako, sabi ko nga this is not for the faint of heart"

     

    Ano ba talaga parekoy?

     

    Third, anong kinalaman ng personal issues ko dito? Bakit kelangan mo yan halukayin? Eh the way me and the others see it, ikaw naman sa totoo lang ang lasing sa sobrang naguumapaw na emosyon at hindi kami. Kaya kami ang walang dahilan para mapikon. Kung ano man yung issues ko, I can assure you na I deal with them the right way. Thats one thing na maipagmamalaki (hindi naman ipinagyayabang kasi iba din yun) ko. Na at least sa tamang tao ako humingi ng tulong. I did not take stupid advices from mga katropa lang ma "O mambabae na lang tayo, sex lang kelangan mo, try mo rebound relationship etc." I have nothing against people na babae ang ginagawang bisyo, ang sakin lang, respect the rules of the game. Isa pa, hindi naman naso-solve ang problema sa ilang segundo ng pagpaparaos. You may wanna think na grabe ang nangyari sakin that I needed to attend support group meetings, but dude I will tell you this. At least I am not in denial that I had issues to deal with. And people helped me live a cleaner lifestyle and establish a better dailry routine. Thats more like it than being in denial.

     

    Finally, backread ka ng konti sa thread na ito o sa kabila. May mangilan ngilan na din akong nakausap na pareho sitwasyon sayo, pinagkaiba nga lang talaga, sila kahit papano kaya nilang i-entertain yung possibility na baka nga in denial sila, at yung mga sinasabi ng mga tulad ko ay makakatulong sa kanila balansehin ang pananaw sa mundo at bumalik sa realidad paminsan minsan kahit medyo mapait ito.

     

    Maayos ang pananaw ko sa mundo brad, mas tanggap ko lang siguro na minsan kelangan mo lunukin paminsan minsan yung mapait at hindi puro tamis lang lagi.

     

     

    bro your already bordering misogyny. life is too short, let go and be free of anger. let others try for themselves if they fail its another lesson to be learned and life goes on.

  3. Fellow MTC members, I have to admit that I am one of those guys that has falle in love with a fromer solo dancer/GRO. I have know her for almost 4 years already and we have been dating for more than 1 year. I know that I lovveher and she loves me. I am not rich, am just a simple working class man. Dati, she is a solo dancer doing ATW sa stage. As far as I know and she admits that she has gone in the VIP room with GM's at least 3 times in her stint as GRO/dancer. Pero sya namimili ng mag VIP sa kanya. kapag ndi nya trip , sorry at walang VIP.

     

    That has been her past. As I mentioned, we have been dating exclusively for the past year and its I can say we are BF-GF. She is still a GRO/dancer and I do trust her that there is no hanky panky going around. But that's beside the point. She has stuck with me trhgouh thick and thin ika nga. May pera man ako o wala, she has been there for me. I know na hindi pera habol nya sakin since i am not rich. hindi rin naman ako mahirap. I can afford luxuries like going to bars, drinking, a few out of town escapades every two months...in other word above average working calss.

     

    What I want to kn ow and have your opinionis, is it worth it. I am already separated sa ex-wife ko. living free as a bachelor. Sawa na ako sa mga babaeng manloloko and to be honest, I have been in the clubbing limelight for 10 years. Marami akong barkada na FM at OIC's ng mga clubs. I can say that I would know kung niloloko lang ako. and problema, I want to really ask and get the whole truth sa GF ko ngayun about her past...is it right that i still ask her about her past? to me, it is important to be honest...i am not saying hindi ko alam nakaraan nya...

     

    For example, she said that she had done "VIP" for only 3-4 times during her "career" as GRO sa club kung saan ko sya nakilala. For me, it would seem rather almost impossible since she belongs to the top 10 girls sa bar kung saan ko sya unang nakilala. However, when I met her, and inaya ko sya sa VIP, she did say yes...pero there was no s_x involved when we were in the VIP room.

     

    Bottome-line and ultimately, should I still research, spend time and even bother to know everything about her past? Or should I just simply move-on, forget about her past and cherish what we have now? Would it be important to know her past? Would her past influence what we will have in the future? I see in her the love she has for me...I also see that I am really important to her. Yes, I provide a bit of financial support to her especially now that she stopped dancing ATW and no longer goes inside the VIP unless group VIP...meaning, nabawasan income nya dahil na rin sakin. Should I continue with this relationship...I have to again be honest...I truly love her...not only because of sex...we often go in motels just to really rest...and not just have sex..I also know that her love for me in genuine...tried and tested.

     

    Yes, I might be confused now...but I can say that I am happy...next step is to take her away from being a "bar girl" and we are now planning to open a business so she can stop being a GRO. Lots more to say but what I have written probably are the more important notes in our relationship..

     

    **sorry medyo magulo composition since magulo utak ko ngaun.... TIA!!!

     

    every person is different, to me the past is past as long as your the last guy she fcks with. just asking about it in this forum means its in your mind that it may haunt you in the future. does this subject [ past relationship] brought up with your ex in one of your quarrels?

    you did not mention if you have kids.

    is another marriage in the horizon?

    if i were you, id go very slow. investing emotions and time can be devastating if things doesnt turn out as planned.

    never mind the money its replaceable others are not. rolleyes.gif

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