vince1000 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 hey there i concur. i think compound exercises will be more effective in the long run but isolations add more flavor to the exercise. compound exercise save time. imagine doing 5X5 with bicep curls, triceps, shrugs, etc etc etc.. imagine how much time it would burn to do all those isolation exercise. Quote Link to comment
parbust3r Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 For everyone who has been asking for this, we have the ability to film it and put it on the Eclipse website...but just keep reminding me...or tell Olympus to kick me in the butt next time he sees me so I won't forget Have you gotten your butt kinked already? I really need to know how to do this one sir. Quote Link to comment
Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 another thing, is the bent over barbell rows the same as your dynamic rows? coz i really dont know how to do the dynamic row exercise, what i did is the bent over barbell row yesterday. Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 another thing, is the bent over barbell rows the same as your dynamic rows? coz i really dont know how to do the dynamic row exercise, what i did is the bent over barbell row yesterday. They are similar but different. I posted the description of the dynamic row in another thread here Quote Link to comment
Eclipseguy Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I filmed it, but Coach Elaine is the audio/video expert...and I have no idea where she is tonight cuz she would be the one to upload it. Hopefully tomorrow... Quote Link to comment
Eclipseguy Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I filmed it, but Coach Elaine is the audio/video expert...and I have no idea where she is tonight cuz she would be the one to upload it. Hopefully tomorrow... This is the dynamic row followed by the Power Snatch, Power Clean, and High pull: Quote Link to comment
Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 nice vid, im really impressed!!! :thumbsupsmiley: was that EG doing the demos? on the DRows, do i have to be concious in sticking my head up in front at the top of the pull? and for the power snatch do i also have to do the jumping motion? Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 nice vid, im really impressed!!! :thumbsupsmiley: was that EG doing the demos? on the DRows, do i have to be concious in sticking my head up in front at the top of the pull? and for the power snatch do i also have to do the jumping motion? That was one of our assistant coaches. You have to look in front or look up as looking down may cause your back to arch in the dynamic row For the power snatch, the jumping motion becomes secondary after a time. At first you practice tip toeing Quote Link to comment
Eclipseguy Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 nice vid, im really impressed!!! :thumbsupsmiley: was that EG doing the demos? Nope...EG doesn't let anyone touch his camera...except EG (So obviously that means that I filmed it ) Quote Link to comment
Humpster!!!! Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 thanks for the video mr eclipseguy OT: kala ko before ung name mo is related to the eclipse car eclipse gym pala...hehehehehehe :cool: Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 (edited) This is another "controversial" thread that has slowed down. Let the debate continue :cool: Edited March 29, 2007 by Jacques Quote Link to comment
crazykalbo Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 well kasi talaga naman mas better ang compound sa isolation. hehe. health, fat burning, muscle building benefits.. compound workouts are better. Quote Link to comment
Pepeng Manas Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 one thing i've noticed with the compound exercises, ang pinapatunguhan ng korte na katawan ko ay yung katulad sa mga athletes, like dwayne wade. nung isolation exercises ang ginagawa ko, ang laki ng triceps ko at lag ang delts ko... typical sa mga nagbubuhat sa gym. yoko nung ganoong katawan. pero malayo pa katawan ko kay dwayne wade ha? Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 well kasi talaga naman mas better ang compound sa isolation. hehe. health, fat burning, muscle building benefits.. compound workouts are better. I agree. Better in a sense that you build muscle more efficiently to a point that you encourage proportion strength and muscle development. They key word is better. Doesn't mean I totally forego "isolations." Quote Link to comment
boy_tusok Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 just a thought on this argument. i've been doing tricep ext. since i went back to the gym last year occasionally doing unilateral tricep ext. about a month ago i changed my routine and started doing dips(bodyweight). last wed. i tried doing the tricep ext. again and found that my strenght has roughly doubled. compound exercises is the way to go! Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 like one fitness trainer said "Nothing in life requires an isolated movement, so why train that way?" Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 just a thought on this argument. i've been doing tricep ext. since i went back to the gym last year occasionally doing unilateral tricep ext. about a month ago i changed my routine and started doing dips(bodyweight). last wed. i tried doing the tricep ext. again and found that my strenght has roughly doubled. compound exercises is the way to go! I'm glad that you were able to figure that out man. For me, you can never really rely on "isolations" to build strength. For the basic reason that less muscles become involved during the execution. Quote Link to comment
hondacity Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 if possible do em all!!! never stop till it hurts or till you can't move it anymore..ahhahah Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 if possible do em all!!! never stop till it hurts or till you can't move it anymore..ahhahah The pump or the hurt is and never will be the measure of a good workout. Quote Link to comment
Palakol Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 that area between the balls and the assh*le. Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Personally, I do not do/prioritize any direct ab work except when I feel "extra-energetic" on a given day. Whenever I do deadlifts and squats, I feel my abs getting worked by stabilizing the body. The only time I really train abs directly and regularly is whenever I would enter a bodybuilding show, not expecting to "etch" deeper cuts but more on practicing to hold the ab poses. Lastly, I never would train forearms directly. I find doing wrist curls boring and insignificant since your forearms are physically demanded everytime you do pulling excercises. Quote Link to comment
geneticfreak Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 the forearms siguro. I don't do excercises that specifically target this area. unlike my calves which i do calf raises for my forearams don't recieve too much attention (kaya mahina ako sa bunong braso kahit matanda natatalo ata ako hehe) Quote Link to comment
geneticfreak Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 For people who do MMA,Boxing or other combative sports (or other sports in general) compound excercises in my opinion are the way to go. Not only does it build the neccessary strength for these kinds of activities but they help the body's muscle memory form a "firing sequence" of sorts so that when a given movement is executed the body muscles help each other out and produce a more desirable result. e.g. if you're shooting for a takedown or trying to control someone in the guard. Quote Link to comment
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