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Posted 10 October 2012 - 11:49 PM

popular vote is MJ, for me its Kareem, kayo sino sa tingin nyo? lets not limit the discussion to the two guys i mentioned

Just some info from Wikipedia...you may add up to back up your entry...

Kareem

6 NBA champion (1971, 1980, 1982, 1985, 19871988)
2 NBA Finals MVP (1971, 1985)
6 NBA Most Valuable Player (19711972, 1974, 19761977, 1980)
19 NBA All-Star (19701977, 19791989)
10 All-NBA First Team (19711974, 19761977, 19801981, 1984, 1986)
5 All-NBA Second Team (1970, 19781979, 1983, 1985)
5 NBA All-Defensive First Team (19741975, 19791981)
6 NBA All-Defensive Second Team (19701971, 19761978, 1984)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1970)
NBA All-Rookie Team (1970)
2 NBA scoring champion (19711972)
NBA rebounding champion (1976)
4 NBA blocks leader (19751976, 19791980)
NBA all-time leading scorer
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team
No.33 retired by Los Angeles Lakers
No.33 retired by Milwaukee Bucks
3 NCAA champion (19671969)
3 NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player (19671969)
3 College national player of the year (19671969)
No.33 retired by UCLA
Career statistics
Points 38,387 (24.6 ppg)
Rebounds 17,440 (11.2 rpg)
Blocks 3,189 (2.5 bpg)

MJ

6 NBA champion (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)
6 NBA Finals MVP (19911993, 19961998)
5 NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 19911992, 1996, 1998)
14 NBA All-Star (19851993, 19961998, 20022003)
3 NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1988)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1985)
10 NBA scoring champion (19871993, 19961998)
3 NBA steals champion (1988, 1990, 1993)
10 All-NBA First Team (19871993, 19961998)
All-NBA Second Team (1985)
9 NBA All-Defensive First Team (19881993, 19961998)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1985)
2 NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (19871988)
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team
#23 retired by Chicago Bulls and Miami Heat
NCAA champion (1982)
2 Consensus NCAA All-American First Team (19831984)
ACC Player of the Year (1984)
Oscar Robertson Trophy (1984)
Naismith College Player of the Year (1984)
John R. Wooden Award (1984)
Adolph Rupp Trophy (1984)
Career statistics
Points 32,292 (30.1 ppg)
Rebounds 6,672 (6.2 rpg)
Assists 5,633 (5.3 apg)

Magic

5 NBA champion (1980, 1982, 1985, 19871988)
3 NBA Finals MVP (1980, 1982, 1987)
3 NBA Most Valuable Player (1987, 19891990)
12 NBA All-Star (1980, 19821992)
2 NBA All-Star Game MVP (1990, 1992)
9 All-NBA First Team (19831991)
All-NBA Second Team (1982)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1980)
4 NBA assists leader (19831984), (19861987)
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team
NCAA Champion (1979)
#32 Retired by Los Angeles Lakers
Career statistics
Points 17,707 (19.5 ppg)
Rebounds 6,559 (7.2 rpg)
Assists 10,141 (11.2 apg)

Larry

As player:
3 NBA champion (1981, 1984, 1986)
2 NBA Finals MVP (1984, 1986)
3 NBA Most Valuable Player (19841986)
12 NBA All-Star (19801988, 19901992)
9 All-NBA First Team (19801988)
All-NBA Second Team (1990)
3 NBA All-Defensive Second Team (19821984)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1980)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1980)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (1982)
3 Three-point Shootout champion (19861988)
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team
#33 Retired by Boston Celtics
John R. Wooden Award (1979)
Naismith College Player of the Year (1979)
AP National Player of the Year (1979)
Oscar Robertson Trophy (1979)
Adolph Rupp Trophy (1979)
NABC Player of the Year (1979)
2 MVC Player of the Year (1978, 1979)
2 Consensus NCAA All-American First Team (1978, 1979)
As coach:
NBA Coach of the Year (1998)
As executive:
NBA Executive of the Year (2012)
Career statistics
Points 21,791 (24.3 ppg)
Assists 5,695 (6.3 apg)
Rebounds 8,974 (10.0 rpg)

Bill Russel

11 NBA champion (1957, 19591966, 19681969)
5 NBA Most Valuable Player (1958, 19611963, 1965)
5 NBA rebounding champion (19571959, 19641965)
12 NBA All-Star (19581969)
3 All-NBA First Team (1959, 1963, 1965)
8 All-NBA Second Team (1958, 19601962, 1964, 19661968)
NBA All-Defensive First Team (1969)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (1963)
NBA 35th Anniversary Team
NBA 25th Anniversary Team
NBA 50th Anniversary Team
#6 retired by Boston Celtics
2 NCAA champion (19551956)
NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player (1955)
Career statistics
Points 14,522 (15.1 ppg)
Rebounds 21,620 (22.5 rpg)
Assists 4,100 (4.3 apg)
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:49 AM

i think it is quite difficult, if not impossible, to say definitely who is the best player of all time, as they played in different eras; and we have to go beyond individual stats and consider how many championships they won, etc. etc.

so maybe its best to think of it in terms of position, i.e. best center, best point guard, etc. of all time.

In the modern era, i'd say:

Best center - Shaq
Best power forward - Karl Malone
Best small forward - Larry Bird
Best shooting guard - MJ
Best point guard - Magic (he redefined the position). If you want a "pure" point guard, John Stockton.


Pls. note i didn't include active players like Lebron, Kobe, etc. since their careers aren't over yet.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:35 AM

C - Alcindor
PF - Duncan
SF - Bird
SG - MJ
PG - Magic

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 02:50 PM

Center - Kareem Abdul Jabbar
PForward - Julius Erving
SForward - Larry Bird
Guard - Isiah Thomas
Guard - Magic Johnson

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:37 PM

para sa kin c Wilt Chamberlain?? sa tingin nyo?? bakit nde lagi sya nbabanggit being the best player there is?? is it because mas matangkad sya?? why is george Mikan the best player of the 1st haf century ng NBA/ABA?? e mas malaki din sya??

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:06 AM

siguro po kasi, success is measured by achievement...
what i mean is the ultimate goal to get a ring,
take for example karl malone and tim duncan, most basketball experts consider duncan as the best pf that played the game
the difference between the two? rings.
why is alcindor and russell ranked higher than wilt? rings.
note: in one of wilt's interviews he tells that alcindor was the first player he asked his team that they help him defend.



as for mikhan's case, it was more of a spectacle seeing someone that huge(6'10") and playing the game at that time...

Edited by dfgvan, 12 October 2012 - 12:14 AM.


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 01:35 AM

siguro po kasi, success is measured by achievement...
what i mean is the ultimate goal to get a ring,
take for example karl malone and tim duncan, most basketball experts consider duncan as the best pf that played the game
the difference between the two? rings.
why is alcindor and russell ranked higher than wilt? rings.
note: in one of wilt's interviews he tells that alcindor was the first player he asked his team that they help him defend.



as for mikhan's case, it was more of a spectacle seeing someone that huge(6'10") and playing the game at that time...


hmm maybe.. pero comparing THE MAILMAN to MR. Fundamental, parang mas magaling namn tlga c Timmy e, what do u think>?

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:09 PM

hmm maybe.. pero comparing THE MAILMAN to MR. Fundamental, parang mas magaling namn tlga c Timmy e, what do u think>?

naalala ko tuloy yung hall of fame enshrinement ni robinson.... In his speech, he called tim the answer to his prayers and the best pf ..... Nung time ni stockton naman mag speech, he quoted robinson and said, i beg to disagree....
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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:21 PM

Stockton will surely disagree.. pero Mr. fundamental is all u wanted in a player, mas lalo na PF position nya, scoring, rebounding, assist, jumpshot, utak ng isang guard. leadership.. lahat na ata nasa kanya.. kaya nga MR> FUNDAMENTAL e

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:30 AM

http://www.nba.com/2...ls=iref:nbahpts
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:09 PM

for me it's Jordan.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 01:27 AM

Jordan

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 12:10 PM

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 06:39 PM

obvious choice is jordan...

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 10:08 PM

Michael Jordan

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 11:24 PM

Mj no question about that

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 09:31 PM

Kareem
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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:03 AM

Michael Jordan

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:35 AM

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 02:27 PM

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