babymaker Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 (edited) Before I post my thoughts on cancer, I'd like you to watch this short film: Highly Acclaimed Video Causing a Flood of Hate Mail Click below to watch the free animated short video that that has created a major controversy across the Web. The video parodies the drug companies and conventional healthcare system and many are furious about the truth being exposed. Watch the Town of Allopath Online Video NowNOTE: Make sure you have your speakers on. http://www.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/misc/hermit_clear.gif Watch the Town of Allopath VIDEO Now! Then I will post my views on cancer, which may sound offensive to those who have loved ones who have died of cancer. But could most likely save the lives of those who are diagnosed with cancer today. I can only help you if you have an open mind. Edited May 23, 2006 by babymaker Quote Link to comment
cadr117 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Good Day to all.... Just wanted your take on this subject. Your fears, questions, opinions, and whatever... If you would like support, I hope this thread can handle it too... I'll start the ball rolling. I lost my wife of 16 years to Breast Cancer. We battled it for almost 3.5 years, but in the end, we lost. It was a long, painful, uphill battle. It drained us financially, emotionally, physically. Nearing the end my wife thanked me for the support. Told her not to thank me, as I would have done it even without her asking for it. But life has to go on. Not advisable to just sit in a corner and sulk or be despondent about Life. Life is to short not to enjoy it....<{POST_SNAPBACK}> just read this thread but every time i hear of the big C, our struggles, fears, uncertainties come back and haunt me again... my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2002 at the age of 35, was operated , chemotheraphy and the works... its been 4 years but i know in my heart there is no assurance on non recurrence but life has to go on.. from every 3 months check up, we are now in annual check up but we are still stressed during the time of the checkup or even a few weeks before that..it changed our outlook for life forever.. i guess now long term planning is out of the question. we are now living day to day but never forgetting to enjoy every minute of it....... Quote Link to comment
Guest BDC0425 Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 after reading all y0ur p0st here, bumalik ulit yung mga experiences k0 dati... i have w0rked in a h0spital bef0re specifically in radiati0n 0nc0l0gy dept. everyday cancer pt ang mga kasama k0 and every b0dy have their 0wn st0ries t0 tell may 1 nga pt wh0 has been battling the big C f0r alm0st 13 years na and she is winning in the sense na 0k pa naman siya.. there is als0 this pt na 2 yrs 0ld lang-brain cancer grabe maaawa ka talaga sa bata na kailangan lagi pinapatul0g bef0re any treatment... there are als0 s0me nuns naman na ang cancer naman is sa 0vary and I ask 1 d0ct0r kung bakit nagkagay0n ang sabi is "its either 0ver used 0r never use" gan0n pala yun!!! p0int here is..... 1. lahat pwede tamaan ng cancer lalake, babae, bakla, t0mb0y...etc..and fr0m ages 1-1012. there are 3 types 0f "cure" sa cancer 2.1 surgical - rem0val 0f b0dy parts na may cancer cells e.g breast etc.. 2.2 medical - chem0 (by injecti0n, dextr0se type yung may bal0t ng carb0n paper, yung iba is cream which i guess is para lang sa mga superficial na cases ) 2.3 radiati0n - c0balt, linear accelerat0r (LINAC),mer0n din yung isng type which I f0rg0t! 2.3.1 c0balt - sab0g ang radiati0n nit0 uses chemical element c0balt 2.3.2 LINAC - s0 far the safest radiati0n treatment uses electricity much much m0re accurate than c0balt.3. between the 3, radiati0n ang safest (LINAC) sa chem0 kase b0th healthy ans cancer cells pinapatay kaya nanghihina talaga ang mga pt sa chem0. but 0f c0urse there are cases na chem0 lang ang pwede 0pti0n like leukemia... 4. early detecti0n, may hinala ka na may cancer ka??? have it check !!! its better t0 be sure than s0rry!!!5. all and I mean ALL pe0ple have cancer cells its up t0 us para hindi sila ma trigger. ang kailangan natin iwasan sa big C is magkar00n ng mets 0r metastasis in tagal0g yung pagkalat ng sakit. liver cancer im s0rry t0 say is 0ne 0f the m0st hopeless cases. h0peless might be a str0ng w0rd per0 yun talaga yun. I AM N0T AN 0NC0L0GIST N0R DID I T00K ANY MEDICAL C0URSE . what I have written here are based 0n first hand inf0rmati0n fr0m d0ct0rs, pt and medical physicist ( the pers0n wh0 prepares the wh0le planning treatment 0f a pt in a rad 0nc0 treatment ) if y0u need a d0c maybe I c0uld refer y0u t0 s0me Quote Link to comment
DELISYUS Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 i have heard of two cases where they opted radiation before administering chemo treatments... what happened was, the cells didn't respond to the chemo treatments anymore kasi parang naluto na... anyway... hopefully radiation will be good for my nephew who is only turning 3.... and has been battling cancer since October last year. my Grandpa had prostate cancer and died... but he was almost 80 when that happened... and maybe because I was still a child, the implications of the disease didn't hit me as much then his youngest son (my uncle) had colon cancer... had to even have a part of his intestines removed... but again, i didn't actually feel the impact of the disease in our family's life, despite the fact that i watched over him with his wife... but when my nephew was stricken... a child i watched from infancy... a child i love and adore... we were really devastated... cancer really strikes in random inasmuch as it punishes those who led unhealthy lifestyles (smoking?)... and we're still waiting for my nephew to be declared cancer-free... but there are more treatments ahead of him... and we're just really grateful that kids are more graceful and brave and resilient than we can ever be... Quote Link to comment
Guest BDC0425 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 i have heard of two cases where they opted radiation before administering chemo treatments... what happened was, the cells didn't respond to the chemo treatments anymore kasi parang naluto na... anyway... hopefully radiation will be good for my nephew who is only turning 3.... and has been battling cancer since October last year. my Grandpa had prostate cancer and died... but he was almost 80 when that happened... and maybe because I was still a child, the implications of the disease didn't hit me as much then his youngest son (my uncle) had colon cancer... had to even have a part of his intestines removed... but again, i didn't actually feel the impact of the disease in our family's life, despite the fact that i watched over him with his wife... but when my nephew was stricken... a child i watched from infancy... a child i love and adore... we were really devastated... cancer really strikes in random inasmuch as it punishes those who led unhealthy lifestyles (smoking?)... and we're still waiting for my nephew to be declared cancer-free... but there are more treatments ahead of him... and we're just really grateful that kids are more graceful and brave and resilient than we can ever be...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> sorry to hear that ms beautiful... I really hope your nephew would get the right treatment for him... may I ask kung ano case ng nephew mo? and saan siya nagpapa RT? ang RT kase is pinapatay ang mga cancer cells it is indeed possible na hindi mag respond sa chemo.... if your nephew is declared CA-free (hopefully soon) you still have to give him check ups every now and then baka kase.... may suggestion lang me here sa mga taong may CA...if your family cannot afford the treatment, try to ask for assistance sa PCSO they do help patients na cant afford.... during these times, hindi na dapt mahiya its life we are talking here... sana po nakatulong ako sa inyo... Quote Link to comment
Green Lantern Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I believe that if you catch it early enough, you stand a better chance against it. Check with your doctor regarding your concerns and for those exams that are regularly done like Pap Smears and Breast exams for the women and Prostate exams for the men including PSA (Prostate specific Antigen) in the blood. Quote Link to comment
LovenFaith Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 mine is FEAR... FEAR of losing a loved one...he has colon cancer.stage 2...and though i've heard of a medical breakthrough recently,this damn fear is still creeping my spine...he's the only person who show me what's life is all about :cry: Quote Link to comment
Green Lantern Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 Is he already seeing an Oncologist? Quote Link to comment
Kouji Kabuto Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 We shouldn't immediately put down conventional medicine. My friend said that in china, east and west work together to treat cancer. Like GL says, an ounce of prevention is worth a TON of cure. Check ups, check ups, check ups! Quote Link to comment
Green Lantern Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Thanks KK, again it is too bad that most people don't pay much attention to the signs till it is too late. Quote Link to comment
LovenFaith Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Is he already seeing an Oncologist? yes po..and he was advised to undergo surgery..but he didn't buy that option...he's mother told him that it will make his condition worst than better...!!! :sick: We shouldn't immediately put down conventional medicine. My friend said that in china, east and west work together to treat cancer. Like GL says, an ounce of prevention is worth a TON of cure. Check ups, check ups, check ups! i heard about this "stem cell weeks ago"... possible or not...i wanna take chances but i still dont know how or where to start on having this procedure...can u pls fill me in po about all the infos i need regarding this...?thanks so much po...!!! Quote Link to comment
Green Lantern Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I'm sorry PeeJay Ong but stem cell therapy is not yet available in medical practice, this is still undergoing research and has a long way to go. I suggest you have a good, long, and informed discussion with your oncologist as to the options that he can offer. Quote Link to comment
hint-of-lime Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 yes po..and he was advised to undergo surgery..but he didn't buy that option...he's mother told him that it will make his condition worst than better...!!! :sick: i heard about this "stem cell weeks ago"... possible or not...i wanna take chances but i still dont know how or where to start on having this procedure...can u pls fill me in po about all the infos i need regarding this...?thanks so much po...!!! A lot of cancer patients cringe when they hear the word "surgery". For certain types of cancer which are caught early enough, surgery is actually the best option. Surgery is the ONLY modality available for cancer today which when done by a trained surgical oncologist for the properly selected patient can actually afford a CURE because you are able to remove the cancer EN BLOC (assuming, of course, you don't have metastasis yet)! The best results actually have been seen in patients treated with neoajuvant chemotherapy (chemotherapy before surgery) followed by surgery, then by another set of chemotherapy after. Theoretically by doing this, you k*ll the micrometastasis and shrink the tumor first, then do the surgery after the tumor has shrunk, then again k*ll what is left of the micromets after. Think of it this way - you are out to k*ll an Al Quaeda safehouse; some enemy fighters might be scattered in the structures in the surrounding building. You first drop the cluster bombs to take out as much of the surrounding area as possible, then direct your smart bomb on the safehouse for the surgical strike! Of course, it doesnt work all the time, but for the patients on whom this works, it makes all the difference! Another reason why surgery is suggested even for some unresectable tumors or for mets patients is that surgery will decrease the tumor load of the body. Why is this important? If the tumor load is decreased, then there will be a smaller area on which the chemotherapy/RT would need to work on. So if your medical oncologist (assuming he is a well trained one) feels that surgery will be of benefit, it should be something you should seriously consider. As for the stem cells, GL is right - the technology is still too far off to be of benefit to anyone for anything. Quote Link to comment
Green Lantern Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Currently they are advertising a service for storage of stem cells from umbilical cords but this is only for unborn children. Quote Link to comment
jo6789 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 yes po..and he was advised to undergo surgery..but he didn't buy that option...he's mother told him that it will make his condition worst than better...!!! :sick: i heard about this "stem cell weeks ago"... possible or not...i wanna take chances but i still dont know how or where to start on having this procedure...can u pls fill me in po about all the infos i need regarding this...?thanks so much po...!!! Stem cell is currently available right now..im working as a bone marrow transplant nurse or what we called the stem cell transplant medyo may kamahalan po ata ito and i dont know kung available ito sa pilipinas, as for the stem cord transplant ginagawa po ito sa mga pasyente na walang makuhang match na donor para sa bone marrow transplant some are succesful in doing this kind of procedure ung preparation and pagkuha ng donor ang medyo mahirap at ung process na dadaanan ng pasyente ang medyo dapat e paghandaan both physically and emotionally...kung may katanoungan po kayo tungkol dito ill try to answer them sa abot po ng ating makakaya pag di ko na po masagot magtatanong po tayo sa mas nakakaalam...my prayers to all those experiencing and battling the big C both the patients and relatives Quote Link to comment
Green Lantern Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 You must be referring to bone marrow transplantation. Bone marrow transplantation is the generic term used to describe the collection and transplantation of hematopoietic stem cells. The procedure is usually carried out for one of two purposes: (1) to replace an abnormal but nonmalignant lymphohematopoietic system with one from a normal donor, or (2) to treat malignancy by allowing the administration of higher doses of myelosuppressive therapy than would otherwise be possible. The use of bone marrow transplantation has been steadily increasing, both because of the its demonstrated effectiveness in selected diseases and because of increasing availability of donors. The International Bone Marrow Transplant Registry estimates that about 50,000 transplants were performed during 1999. The other stem cell therapy being referred to was in conjunction with gene cell therapy wherein these proginator cells will be made to differenciate to specific cells for therapeutic purposes. In short, you can use bone marrow transplantation to help recover from the toxicities brought about by chemotherapy. Normally when dealing with the big "C" Chemotherapy is done initially to try and reduce the size of the tumor and its activity, followed by excision (surgery), followed by chemotherapy again to try and eliminate any cells that may have spread (metastasis). All this chemotherapy is toxic to the non malignant cells of the body as well. Quote Link to comment
Green Lantern Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Hello Jo6789,Can you ask your friends what their take is on the new bill for stem cell research.This is the new bill proposed by congress but is expected to be vetoed by Pres. Bush.Personally, I don't see the problem with the research but I guess some people have some bio-ethical issues with it.If the research will do good for mankind then I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment
jo6789 Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Hello Jo6789,Can you ask your friends what their take is on the new bill for stem cell research.This is the new bill proposed by congress but is expected to be vetoed by Pres. Bush.Personally, I don't see the problem with the research but I guess some people have some bio-ethical issues with it.If the research will do good for mankind then I'm all for it.hello there green lantern Ithink Pres. Bush vetoed the embryonic stem cell research but not the entire stem cell research, its my fault that when i commented regarding the query of our fellow mtc'er i forgot to ask what kind of malignancy is he or she referring to, im quite in a hurry to back read those thread ( medyo busy po ). Actually im working in a research instituition dealing with this different kind of stems cells what we are doing right now is to improve the technology in several stem cell therapies which include the Bone marrow stem cells, PBCS and the Umbilical Cord Blood stem cell,..we usually do this kind of treatment/procedure to those with leukemias other types of cancer and some various blood disorder...i think the issue about the embryonic stem cell will go back to the issue of human cloning...those who are against the human cloning will definitely be against this kind of stem cell research...If you will ask me about if it is beneficial for the humankind in pursuing this kind of researches then the answer will be obvious... Quote Link to comment
Green Lantern Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Jo6789, no faults here. We are all just trying to help diba.Wow, you have a great job, you work directly with the people who are in need of help, you must be a sympathetic and caring person. I saw an Ad on Fox, they were advertising storage of cord blood from newborns, the thing about this is that you would have to suspect that your child will have some need for his/her cord blood in the future. Quote Link to comment
Guest romeot_12 Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 hello i dont knowif this is the right forum, but hope some one can help me out. my gf recently found a small lump bet her breast and underarm. we just want to make sure what it is? what kind of specialist should we go to? can u recommend a doctor? medyo wer on a tight budget lang. thnks in advance. Quote Link to comment
Green Lantern Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 See a General Surgeon.Try Saint Martin in SanJuan, it is a charity hospital. Make sure that your GF is in the mid cycle of her period when she has the check up. Quote Link to comment
jo6789 Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 Jo6789, no faults here. We are all just trying to help diba.Wow, you have a great job, you work directly with the people who are in need of help, you must be a sympathetic and caring person. I saw an Ad on Fox, they were advertising storage of cord blood from newborns, the thing about this is that you would have to suspect that your child will have some need for his/her cord blood in the future. hi Mr. Green lantern, yes they are storing now the cord blood using liquid nitrogen at below 0...but this can be use not only by the child itself but can be used by anyone who is in need of stem cell transplant but unfortunately only pediatrics cases can avail of such transplant kunti lang kasi ang nahaharvest nating blood sa isang cord approximately 100 cc...wala pa kaming case na adult ang nag benefit ng cord stem cell tansplant... We are using the cord blood stem cell transplant because it is less prone to rejection ung mga cell kasi ay primative pa or "naive"...they lacks well develop immune cells so less chance that they will attack the recipients body ( GVHD ). magandang pakinggan ang stem cell transplant but on my personal opinion marami pa ding studies na dapat i conduct regarding this technology... Quote Link to comment
Green Lantern Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Yup yup, we are still years and years away from any real benefit save for the treatment of blood pathologies. Quote Link to comment
Guest romeot_12 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 See a General Surgeon.Try Saint Martin in SanJuan, it is a charity hospital. Make sure that your GF is in the mid cycle of her period when she has the check up. ok thnks for the info. thnks very much Quote Link to comment
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