will robie Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) In my opinion, if Kawhi chose LAL, the Lakers instantly become a contender. Kawhi was head and shoulders the best player in that Raptors championship team. Now, with Kawhi choosing the other occupant of Staples Center, I think that makes that other occupant instant contenders, especially, with last year's MVP candidate, Paul George, joining Kawhi. It was reported that Kawhi recruited him. LAC, as we speak, is better than LAL. Kawhi just came from a championship and although PG got eliminated in the first round, he was an MVP candidate. Davis and James never even went to the playoffs this past season. The two franchise players of LAC are better than the two franchise players of LAL. The Lakers made a knee-jerk reaction by overpaying Danny Green for $15MM a season after Kawhi rejected them for the other LA team. Green was only getting $10MM a season for the past 4 seasons. Jeannie Buss should ditch Pelinka. But hey, James will have his old dancing partner back. Edited July 7, 2019 by will robie Quote Link to comment
red60 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 In my opinion, if Kawhi chose LAL, the Lakers instantly become a contender. Kawhi was head and shoulders the best player in that Raptors championship team. Now, with Kawhi choosing the other occupant of Staples Center, I think that makes that other occupant instant contenders, especially, with last year's MVP candidate, Paul George, joining Kawhi. It was reported that Kawhi recruited him. LAC, as we speak, is better than LAL. Kawhi just came from a championship and although PG got eliminated in the first round, he was an MVP candidate. Davis and James never even went to the playoffs this past season. The two franchise players of LAC are better than the two franchise players of LAL. The Lakers made a knee-jerk reaction by overpaying Danny Green for $15MM a season after Kawhi rejected them for the other LA team. Green was only getting $10MM a season for the past 4 seasons. Jeannie Buss should ditch Pelinka. But hey, James will have his old dancing partner back. Barring injury LAC is the clear favorite to win a championship. Not only are they an offensive monster, they are also the best defensive team in the NBA. I have to disagree that signing Danny Green was a knee-jerk reaction. It was already common knowledge that the Lakers, Mavs and other NBA teams wanted to sign him weeks ago but Danny Green really wanted to sign with Lakers so he waited for Kawhi to make a decision. 15M 2yrs sounds big but Danny Green is a 45% 3pt shooter, an elite defender and a 2-time NBA Champion. No freakin way he'll sign another 10M dollar contract. I am not a Pelinka fan but in my opinion he did a decent job this off-season. Signing DMC for 3.5M is a steal IMHO. I'm hoping we can get Korver and perhaps Avery Bradley for Vet minimum. Quote Link to comment
red60 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) My starting 5 C DMCF A. DavisF L. JamesG D. GreenG R. Rondo Kuzma will be our 6th man. Hopefully he can improve his defense. Edited July 7, 2019 by red60 Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Barring injury LAC is the clear favorite to win a championship. Not only are they an offensive monster, they are also the best defensive team in the NBA. I have to disagree that signing Danny Green was a knee-jerk reaction. It was already common knowledge that the Lakers, Mavs and other NBA teams wanted to sign him weeks ago but Danny Green really wanted to sign with Lakers so he waited for Kawhi to make a decision. 15M 2yrs sounds big but Danny Green is a 45% 3pt shooter, an elite defender and a 2-time NBA Champion. No freakin way he'll sign another 10M dollar contract. I am not a Pelinka fan but in my opinion he did a decent job this off-season. Signing DMC for 3.5M is a steal IMHO. I'm hoping we can get Korver and perhaps Avery Bradley for Vet minimum. DC wasn't really a factor in the just-concluded championship series. $3.5MM a season is reasonable for DC. I am not saying the Lakers should have signed Green for $15MM a season. I'd say $12MM max for Danny Green per season but $15MM is too much, in my opinion. The Lakers have a pretty decent projected starting five on paper but it remains to be seen how it will translate on court. Remember the much-ballyhooed Nash, Gasol, Howard and Bryant foursome? Quote Link to comment
red60 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) DC wasn't really a factor in the just-concluded championship series. $3.5MM a season is reasonable for DC. I am not saying the Lakers should have signed Green for $15MM a season. I'd say $12MM max for Danny Green per season but $15MM is too much, in my opinion. The Lakers have a pretty decent projected starting five on paper but it remains to be seen how it will translate on court. Remember the much-ballyhooed Nash, Gasol, Howard and Bryant foursome? While I agree that DMC didnt play well in the NBA finals except for game 2, You are underestimating Cousins. He averaged 16PPG 8RPG 3AST last season with the stacked GSW. If he can stay healthy he'll be a wild card and a game changer for the Lakers. At 3.5M, I can consider him minimal risk acquisition. You could be right about Danny green being slightly overpaid but the extra 3M won't cripple the Lakers. It's a 2 year deal not really long term. There were a lot of bad long-term contracts signed this week and slightly overpaying Green is microscopic in comparison. "Remember the much-ballyhooed Nash, Gasol, Howard and Bryant foursome?" I can't see any similarities. Bryant and Howard clashed since Day 1 and I always said that getting Howard was a terrible idea. Nash was already old and injury prone. It was really bad chemistry all around. I have no doubt AD and James will get along. Rondo and DMC played with AD and they were able to reach the 2nd round. Even if DMC doesnt pan out Lakers just paid him only 3.5M anyway. At the end of the day we just have to wait and see what happens. Lakers have the necessary pieces and I think the coaching staff will need to work extra hard to be a championship contender. Edited July 7, 2019 by red60 Quote Link to comment
Vegasboy32 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Barring injury LAC is the clear favorite to win a championship. Not only are they an offensive monster, they are also the best defensive team in the NBA. I have to disagree that signing Danny Green was a knee-jerk reaction. It was already common knowledge that the Lakers, Mavs and other NBA teams wanted to sign him weeks ago but Danny Green really wanted to sign with Lakers so he waited for Kawhi to make a decision. 15M 2yrs sounds big but Danny Green is a 45% 3pt shooter, an elite defender and a 2-time NBA Champion. No freakin way he'll sign another 10M dollar contract. I am not a Pelinka fan but in my opinion he did a decent job this off-season. Signing DMC for 3.5M is a steal IMHO. I'm hoping we can get Korver and perhaps Avery Bradley for Vet minimum. Possible starting 5 for LACPG - BerverlySG - ShametSF - LeonardPF - GeorgeC - harrell 6th man lou williamsmo harklessIvica ZubacWilson Chandler LakersPG - RondoSG - GreenSF - JamesPF - DavisC - Cousins 6th man KuzmaJavale McgeeCaldwell-PopeAlex Caruso who do you think has the much deeper bench. Just saying. The clippers were a better team before this is a new season. Quote Link to comment
Vegasboy32 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 DC wasn't really a factor in the just-concluded championship series. $3.5MM a season is reasonable for DC. I am not saying the Lakers should have signed Green for $15MM a season. I'd say $12MM max for Danny Green per season but $15MM is too much, in my opinion. The Lakers have a pretty decent projected starting five on paper but it remains to be seen how it will translate on court. Remember the much-ballyhooed Nash, Gasol, Howard and Bryant foursome? Let me ask you this question. Has the clippers won anything. CP3 just wasted his career playing for them. So is Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. What do you expect from a team that not won any championships at all. Since you brought up Gasol, Howard and Bryant plus Nash. The clippers also have CP3, Griffin, Jordan, and Redick. What did they accomplish? Did they bring any championships. That foursome did not last long. While they Clippers foursome stayed together for a couple of years winning nothing. Just saying. Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) While I agree that DMC didnt play well in the NBA finals except for game 2, You are underestimating Cousins. He averaged 16PPG 8RPG 3AST last season with the stacked GSW. If he can stay healthy he'll be a wild card and a game changer for the Lakers. At 3.5M, I can consider him minimal risk acquisition. You could be right about Danny green being slightly overpaid but the extra 3M won't cripple the Lakers. It's a 2 year deal not really long term. There were a lot of bad long-term contracts signed this week and slightly overpaying Green is microscopic in comparison. Perhaps, but his two injuries last year have slowed him down. He is serviceable but not the Cousins of the Sacramento Kings. He could be a game changer for the Lakers but it could also go the other way.I can't see any similarities. Bryant and Howard clashed since Day 1 and I always said that getting Howard was a terrible idea. Nash was already old and injury prone. It was really bad chemistry all around. I have no doubt AD and James will get along. Rondo and DMC played with AD and they were able to reach the 2nd round. Even if DMC doesnt pan out Lakers just paid him only 3.5M anyway. Yes, you are right. But the pundits that time already were crowning the Lakers champions when they haven't played a game yet. At the end of the day we just have to wait and see what happens. Lakers have the necessary pieces and I think the coaching staff will need to work extra hard to be a championship contender. Exactly Edited July 7, 2019 by will robie Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Let me ask you this question. Has the clippers won anything. CP3 just wasted his career playing for them. So is Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. What do you expect from a team that not won any championships at all. Since you brought up Gasol, Howard and Bryant plus Nash. The clippers also have CP3, Griffin, Jordan, and Redick. What did they accomplish? Did they bring any championships. That foursome did not last long. While they Clippers foursome stayed together for a couple of years winning nothing. Just saying.Are CP3, Griffin and Jordan franchise players? PG was an MVP candidate last season. When Kawhi left the Spurs, he was already its best player and it can be argued that the Ws lose the 2017 WCF had Kawhi played and not gotten injured because of Zaza Pacheapshot. He was also the best player of the Raptors when the Raptors won the championship. Both PG and Kawhi are franchise players. Quote Link to comment
red60 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Perhaps, but his two injuries last year have slowed him down. He is serviceable but not the Cousins of the Sacramento Kings. He could be a game changer for the Lakers but it could also go the other way. Yes, you are right. But the pundits that time already were crowning the Lakers champions when they haven't played a game yet. Exactly DMC doesn't need to be anywhere near his Sacramento days to be effective in this Laker team. If he can score 8-10 PPG at high percentage and grab 6-8 RPG, I'm sure Lakers are already happy. Anything more than that is a bonus. Well I don't know who are the pundits you are referring to but the media and former players are saying if they get kawhi then it's almost 100% certain Lakers will win the championship. I can't recall any notable name who said that the Lakers are runaway winners with just Lebron and AD. Quote Link to comment
red60 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Possible starting 5 for LACPG - BerverlySG - ShametSF - LeonardPF - GeorgeC - harrell 6th man lou williamsmo harklessIvica ZubacWilson Chandler LakersPG - RondoSG - GreenSF - JamesPF - DavisC - Cousins 6th man KuzmaJavale McgeeCaldwell-PopeAlex Caruso who do you think has the much deeper bench. Just saying. The clippers were a better team before this is a new season. On paper and based from last season's performance, LAC has a slight edge IMHO. Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) DMC doesn't need to be anywhere near his Sacramento days to be effective in this Laker team. If he can score 8-10 PPG at high percentage and grab 6-8 RPG, I'm sure Lakers are already happy. Anything more than that is a bonus. Well I don't know who are the pundits you are referring to but the media and former players are saying if they get kawhi then it's almost 100% certain Lakers will win the championship. I can't recall any notable name who said that the Lakers are runaway winners with just Lebron and AD. Cousins was recruited because AD loved playing with him in NOLA. I think Cousins' best days are behind him due to multiple injuries. I mean the pundits who predicted an LA championship when the Lakers traded for Howard and added Nash. In my opinion, the road to the championship will go through LA. LAC not LAL. Edited July 8, 2019 by will robie Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 The lakeshow w lbj, ad and boogie i think has the best frontline in the nba... backcourt belongs to the warriors... Clippers might be good but after pg13 and kawhi, the bench is thin...nets, same thing... Mas manginginig pa ang lakers sa celtics... Quote Link to comment
red60 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) On the last sentence of your comment, don't ever tell to him "we can".. Because stating "we" on your qoute on his comment is recognizing and including him as a fan also of Lakers. He's not a Laker fan and he's an LBJ hater also always calling him Lechoke (and I know why). A die hard Boston Celtics fan. On topic;Paano kaya si Carmelo Anthony? Baka pwede iconsider ng team management na kunin siya. Just saying. I know he's a Celtics fan.I remember debating with him last year. hahaha Carmelo Anthony? Malabo na. With recent signings of Green, Dudley, Cook, Daniels, Caruso parang wala na siyang place sa roster. Avery Bradley, a known defensive specialist, is reportedly going to sign with the Lakers for 2 years. Pagasa ni Carmelo if he can convince Lebron but I doubt he will get playing time. I'll give the playing time to the rookie instead of Carmelo. Edited July 9, 2019 by red60 Quote Link to comment
red60 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) Clippers might be good but after pg13 and kawhi, the bench is thin...nets, same thing... Looks like you don't know the details of the trade. It's PG for Alexander, Gallinari, and draft picks. Kawhi and PG will replace the starting position of Alexander and Gallinari so how does that affect the bench depth of the Clippers? They still have Lou Williams (6th man of the year), Harrell (nominee for 6th man of the year), Shamet, McGruder, Harkless coming off the bench. This is one of the best bench unit in the NBA right now. Edited July 9, 2019 by red60 Quote Link to comment
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