daphne loves derby Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Why focus on AD when you can shift to KD? or keep the core intact and add "valuable" role players and improve the bench? Quote Link to comment
dencio Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 ^^ Boston is over the cap. They can't bid for KD. Sign-and-trade puede pero mahirap. The Celtics have several free agents - restricted and unrestricted - so they can overhaul the team. But why would there be a need to improve the bench when it's already solid and the dip in talent from the starters is not significant? Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 If the Celtics are going to seriously go after AD, they must be willing to outbid the Lakers and Knicks, among others. A package of Tatum and salary fillers will not cut it (and won't even pass trade rules). Reports have indicated that the Lakers may include the no. 4 pick in this year's draft to the group of young players they were offering at this year's trade deadline. The Knicks may also use the no. 3 pick, although their current roster doesn't have anyone as tasty as Tatum or the Lakers' young players. A package of Tatum, Smart, Baynes and a couple of their stashed future picks, I think, should be enough to entice Griffin and the Pels.So tell me, how can my suggestion not pass trade rules? Quote Link to comment
dencio Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 So tell me, how can my suggestion not pass trade rules? Salary matching. Sino ba ang mga salary fillers sa suggestion mo? Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Salary matching. Sino ba ang mga salary fillers sa suggestion mo? I never mentioned any salary fillers because I defer to the wisdom of Ainge when doing that. Quote Link to comment
dencio Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I never mentioned any salary fillers because I defer to the wisdom of Ainge when doing that. Boston's wise GM certainly knows that the NBA will not allow trading for a $25MM max contract star by offering a $7MM guy and a couple of lower salaried guys. That is a lowball offer - certainly not a steep price. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Boston's wise GM certainly knows that the NBA will not allow trading for a $25MM max contract star by offering a $7MM guy and a couple of lower salaried guys. That is a lowball offer - certainly not a steep price.agree ... esp with a lot of teams interested. sablay talaga tong kumag kahit kailan palibhasa masyadong pinaiiral ang bias sa team na Cs So tell me, how can my suggestion not pass trade rules? oo nga naman pwede! Papasa at tatanggapin ng Pelicans yan naiisip mo...sa nba live 19 at kapag hindi tinanggap sa trade mode dun ka sa create roster option pumunta. isama mo na rin ang pagkuha doon kay KD para mabuo ang pangarap mong team. Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) Boston's wise GM certainly knows that the NBA will not allow trading for a $25MM max contract star by offering a $7MM guy and a couple of lower salaried guys. That is a lowball offer - certainly not a steep price.He knows? You may wanna show your basis for this. Edited May 25, 2019 by will robie Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 oo nga naman pwede! Papasa at tatanggapin ng Pelicans yan naiisip mo...sa nba live 19 at kapag hindi tinanggap sa trade mode dun ka sa create roster option pumunta. isama mo na rin ang pagkuha doon kay KD para mabuo ang pangarap mong team.Sablay? Agree? You don't even know what is even being talked about. Nagagree ka lang kasi masyado ka nang napapahiya sa political threads. Gusto mo lang makabawi but you can't. You just can't. Haha! Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Sablay? Agree? You don't even know what is even being talked about. Nagagree ka lang kasi masyado ka nang napapahiya sa political threads. Gusto mo lang makabawi but you can't. You just can't. Haha! naku ngawa ka na naman ng ngawa... the fact is one sided yan gusto mo ... you want AD to come cheap... oo hindi ko nga alam siguro ang pinaguusapan ... ang pagiisip kasi realistically AD for Tatum asthe centerpiece plus mga patapon won’t work. eh mukhang fantasy basketball ang nasa utak mo o nba live 19. pasensiya na Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) naku ngawa ka na naman ng ngawa... the fact is one sided yan gusto mo ... you want AD to come cheap... oo hindi ko nga alam siguro ang pinaguusapan ... ang pagiisip kasi realistically AD for Tatum asthe centerpiece plus mga patapon won’t work. eh mukhang fantasy basketball ang nasa utak mo o nba live 19. pasensiya naThe last time I checked, Kevin Garnett was traded for 7 Celtics players. This is a fact. May nalalaman ka pang "the fact is one sided ang gusto mo". Hindi yan fact. Yan ay opinion ng walang alam sa usapan dito. So there is a basis for what I said, peithe aka rooster69ph aka rondo_freak aka liar aka celts. Wala ka talagang alam. Mapa sa political threads or dito, sablay na sablay ka, troll. Patapon? This is a warped opinion of someone who does not watch Celtics games. Define "patapon" before using it in a post because you obviously have no idea what you're posting about. Edited May 25, 2019 by will robie Quote Link to comment
dencio Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 He knows? You may wanna show your basis for this. Throwing another red herring eh ... well, I'm not gonna engage that. I've made my point. Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Throwing another red herring eh ... well, I'm not gonna engage that. I've made my point.Red herring? I am not even trying to divert the topic. I am just asking your basis which you seem to not have. I already showed my basis which is Kevin Garnett got traded to the Cs for seven players. Your post is just an opinion. Mine has a fact to back up what I said. Like I said, Tatum is gonna be the centerpiece of a trade to the Pels for AD. The others will just be salary fillers. Quote Link to comment
dencio Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Sige, for argument's sake. Thank you for bringing up the Garnett trade because that seems like the equivalent scenario - with the Celtics indeed paying a steep price for KG. To get the proper context, who were the players given up by the Celtics? - Al Jefferson = young player, future star (closest Boston comp: Tatum) - Ryan Gomes = young player, effective part-time starter (closest Boston comp: Rozier? Brown?) - Theo Ratliff = veteran big with a huge expiring contract (closest Boston comp: Horford) - Seb Telfair = young player, bench contributor (closest Boston comp: any of the C's young bench guys) - Gerald Green = same as Telfair - 2 future 1sts So, if as you're saying, you're basing it on fact, then the price for AD, based on your KG comparison, would be Tatum, Horford, Brown (Rozier is an RFA, can't be traded outright), 2 Boston bench guys and 2 future picks. Definitely not your Tatum + salary fillers poo-poo platter. AD salary >>>>> Tatum + fillers' salaries is not an opinion, those are facts. It is nowhere close to matching per NBA trade rules. Disappointing that your Math isn't as good as your English Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) Sige, for argument's sake. Thank you for bringing up the Garnett trade because that seems like the equivalent scenario - with the Celtics indeed paying a steep price for KG. To get the proper context, who were the players given up by the Celtics? - Al Jefferson = young player, future star (closest Boston comp: Tatum) - Ryan Gomes = young player, effective part-time starter (closest Boston comp: Rozier? Brown?) - Theo Ratliff = veteran big with a huge expiring contract (closest Boston comp: Horford) - Seb Telfair = young player, bench contributor (closest Boston comp: any of the C's young bench guys) - Gerald Green = same as Telfair - 2 future 1sts So, if as you're saying, you're basing it on fact, then the price for AD, based on your KG comparison, would be Tatum, Horford, Brown (Rozier is an RFA, can't be traded outright), 2 Boston bench guys and 2 future picks. Definitely not your Tatum + salary fillers poo-poo platter. AD salary >>>>> Tatum + fillers' salaries is not an opinion, those are facts. It is nowhere close to matching per NBA trade rules. Disappointing that your Math isn't as good as your English Hahahaha! Seriously? First off, Ratliff is nowhere near the talent level of Horford. Secondly, the salary of Horford this year is more than two times the salary of Ratliff when Ratliff was traded. Third, it is pretty obvious you are clueless on the salaries of Horford and Davis. Horford, in fact, has a bigger salary than Davis for the 2019-20 season. New Orleans could trade Davis with a salary filler for Horford. However, Horford is not a franchise player. Davis is. Aside from the fact that Horford's last year is a player option which he can exercise if he will get used as trade bait. Horford is not a trade option because of the player option. The next time you say that my math is worse than my English, it wouldn't hurt to check your facts first. Edited May 27, 2019 by will robie Quote Link to comment
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