viral Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ... "we"?... at paano mo nasabi na "we are ta(l)king about Einstein's logic about..."? ... may pinag-usapan ba tayo tungkol kay Einstein?... hindi ba't sinabi ko na kung aling bahagi ng post mo ang pinuna ko? ........................You have brought up Einstein in your various posts, my friend, have you not? And I posted quotes about Einstein and the origins of the universe. Therefore we are necessarily talking about Einstein as part of this exchange, specifically his thinking that the universe had beginnings, and ergo a creator. Context, my friend, context...............I know you hate context because it nullifies your tactic of lose-them-in-the thickets-of-detail-nitpicking........................ ... di mo na-gets? ... narinig mo na ba ung saitang "god-of-the-gaps"?... kung nuon ay "kumulog-kumidlat", ... ngayon naman ay "beginning-of-the-Universe". ... gets?........................My friend, ikaw ang di nakaka-gets. We know what causes thunder and lightning. That's far, far removed from the topic of Einstein's thinking that if the universe had a beginning, then logically it must have had a creator. And that is what you are not able to address, unless you fall back on your god-of-the-gaps argument. Which does not apply because it cannot account for first cause. Remember, we are talking here about the beginnings of the universe. Cosmological argument ang tawag dun........................ ...sino ba ang nagsabi na "atheist" si Einstein, ako ba? ... may nag-post ba rito na nagsasabing atheist si Einstein? ... at kung babasahin nating muli ang mga ito, On 22 March 1954 Einstein received a letter from J. Dispentiere, an Italian immigrant who had worked as anexperimental machinist in New Jersey. Dispentiere had declared himself an atheist and was despaired by a news report which had cast Einstein as conventionally religious. Einstein replied on 24 March 1954: It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.[8... at heto pa, In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." <http://en.wikipedia....religious_views>.... ay makikitang wala namang nabanggit si Einstein na naniniwala siya sa isang Creator,... o ayan, ngayon pa lamang natin pinag-uusapan si Einstein.........................Again, context, my friend. You miss the point. Einstein did not believe in a personal God. In that sense he was an agnostic. But he believed in an impersonal creator God. Yet many atheists (baka exempted ka nga naman, ewan ko) say Einstein was one of them........................ To quote Einstein: "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings." (Cable reply to Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein's (Institutional Synagogue in New York) question to Einstein, "Do you believe in God?")........................To quote ........................Pssssst, may picture ako ni God, signed autograph pa, may dedication para sa iyo, authenticated ni San Pedro. Papadala ko mamaya........................ 1 Quote Link to comment
friendly0603 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 You have to move this discussion to the other thread. http://manilatonight.com/index.php?showtopic=45262&st=460 This isn't about the moral code. Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ........................You have brought up Einstein in your various posts, my friend, have you not? And I posted quotes about Einstein and the origins of the universe. Therefore we are necessarily talking about Einstein as part of this exchange, specifically his thinking that the universe had beginnings, and ergo a creator. Context, my friend, context............... I know you hate context because it nullifies your tactic of lose-them-in-the thickets-of-detail-nitpicking........................ ... una, hindi porke't kinakausap mo ako ay nangangahulugan nang nag-uusap tayo, ... magkaiba ang kinakausap mo ako sa nag-uusap tayo, ... pangalawa, at inuulit ko, sinabi ko na kung aling bahali ng post mo ang pinupuna ko. ........................My friend, ikaw ang di nakaka-gets. We know what causes thunder and lightning. That's far, far removed from the topic of Einstein's thinking that if the universe had a beginning, then logically it must have had a creator. And that is what you are not able to address, unless you fall back on your god-of-the-gaps argument. Which does not apply because it cannot account for first cause. Remember, we are talking here about the beginnings of the universe. Cosmological argument ang tawag dun........................ ... at paano mo nalaman ang dahilan ng pagkulog at pagkidlat? ... hindi nga ba't Siyensya ang nagbigay ng sagot at hindi ang dios mo, ... kapag hindi alam ang sagot, dios ang sasabihing sagot, ... kapag may sagot na ang Siyensya, exit na ang dios, lipat naman sa ibang tanong na wala pang sagot ang Siyensya, ... god of the gaps, ... ipagpalagay na nating may first cause, ... ano ang ang nagbigay sa yo ng katiyakan na dios nga ang first cause? ... ano ang ang nagbigay sa yo ng katiyakan na wala nang iba pang posibleng maging first cause kundi dios lang? ... wala na bang mas nauna pa sa dios mo, baka may ama pa yan? o kaya naman ay lolo? ... ilan ba ang dios? ... bakit niya/nila nilikha ang Universe? ... ano ang pinagkakaabalahan niya/nila bago nilikha ang Universe?... ang sagot sa kung bakit kumukulog at kumikidlat ay natural, hindi supernatural,... kaya ang sagot ukol sa simula ng Universe, natural din, at hindi supernatural. ........................Again, context, my friend. You miss the point. Einstein did not believe in a personal God. In that sense he was an agnostic. But he believed in an impersonal creator God. Yet many atheists (baka exempted ka nga naman, ewan ko) say Einstein was one of them........................ To quote Einstein: "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings." (Cable reply to Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein's (Institutional Synagogue in New York) question to Einstein, "Do you believe in God?")........................ "... he believed in an impersonal creator God..."... makailang ulit mong binanggit ang salitang creator, kaya linawin natin, ... ano ang ibig mong sabihin sa salitang Creator?... dahil ayon kay Albert Einstein, Einstein had previously explored the belief that man could not understand the nature of God. In an interview published in 1930 in G. S. Viereck's book Glimpses of the Great, Einstein explained: I'm not an atheist. I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's pantheism, but admire even more his contribution to modern thought because he is the first philosopher to deal with the soul and body as one, and not two separate things.[6] <http://en.wikipedia....d_the_afterlife >... at sa Pantheism,Pantheism is the view that the Universe (or Nature) and God (ordivinity) are identical.[1] Pantheists thus do not believe in a personal, anthropomorphic or creator god. The word derives from the Greek (pan)meaning "all" and the Greek (theos) meaning "God". As such, pantheism denotes the idea that "God" is best seen as a process of relating to the Universe.[2] The central ideas found in almost all pantheistic beliefs are the view of the Cosmos as an all-encompassing unity and the sacredness of Nature. < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism > ........................Pssssst,may picture ako ni God, signed autograph pa, may dedication para sa iyo,authenticated ni San Pedro. Papadala ko mamaya........................ ... how sweet,... ang kaso, ... saan mo papadala?... alam mo ba ang address ko? ... ahh, ... itatanong mo na lang sa dios mo? Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Why We Lie We like to believe that a few bad apples spoil the virtuous bunch. But research shows that everyone cheats a little—right up to the point where they lose their sense of integrity. http://online.wsj.co...eTabs%3Darticle Quote Link to comment
SweetSexyLOVER Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 It's a form of God's guidance for us to prepare for the Kingdom. 1 Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 The Codes like loving one's neighbor are very useful even for the Agnostics and unbelievers. Without it we'd be so unruly and immoral! ... Ang Pagmamahal sa Kapitbahay, Now therefore k*ll every male among the little ones, and k*ll every woman that hath known man by lying with him. (Num31:17 KJV) But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. (Num31:18 KJV) And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. (Deu 3:6 KJV) ... bow! Quote Link to comment
SaintPeter5858 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 It's given as part of the Divine right. Quote Link to comment
U.P. AdMU2008 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 If we follow God's moral code, we would no longer elect corrupt leaders in the Philippines. Quote Link to comment
Sports 888 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 ... magbasa ng utak? ... ang mga post ko ang basahin mo,... ang mga reply ko ang unawain mo,... hindi ko masagot? ... balikan mo ang mga post ko, ang mga reply ko, ... at patunayan mo na hindi ko nga masagot. Hahahaha! That's something very rare Quote Link to comment
SaintPeter5858 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 It makes me upright Quote Link to comment
Sports 888 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 If all people will observe it by heart, there would be no more crimes in Metro Manila and the entire country. Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 http://www.jesusandmo.net/strips/2006-01-16.jpg Quote Link to comment
SaintPeter5858 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 The commonalities among all Religions focus simply on the fact that humans are not perfect and, therefore, they need some guidance like moral codes in order to live uprightly and happily. Quote Link to comment
BrightestStar Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 It is born out of God's utmost love for humanity. Quote Link to comment
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