vheRR Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) I think she likes it when I call her Ms Vherrah or Madam Vherrah. From now on I'm gonna give her a new monicker Ms Hambalusta coz she doesn't respect the religious beliefs of other people. Another strategy of stopping her from continuously vandalizing our favorite religious thread is by not posting about her in the meantime. She seems to lack so much attention that's why she needs someone to share with her impractical out-of-this-world opinions only her mother could admire. ... wow! tila yata may pagkakatulad?... teka, kailan ba nalikha ang account na MVP3?... April 7, 2012,... hmmm, amoy isda,... yan pala ang democracy, paramihan,... paramihan ng ginagamit na account? Edited May 11, 2012 by vheRR Quote Link to comment
U.P. AdMU2008 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 ... kung sinasabi kong hindi ako naniniwala sa dios mo, na patunayan mo muna, kabastusan na ba para sa iyo yun?... balat-sibuyas ka pala, iha? Now he is reacting again. Pls go back to your Atheism thread because this thread is designed for believers. Or go to the Fight thread so we can exchange ideas carefully and appropriately. Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Another strategy of stopping her from continuously vandalizing our favorite religious thread is by not posting about her in the meantime. She seems to lack so much attention that's why she needs someone to share with her impractical out-of-this-world opinions only her mother could admire. ... "strategizing", naks, lupet, ... nakakapaglaan ka ng panahon para mag-strategize, pero wala kang panahon para sumagot at ipagtanggol ang sinabi mo't paniniwala,... yan ba ang natutunan mo sa, ... saan nga uli? ... U.P. ba? Ateneo ba?... at aling religious thread ba ang pinagsasabi mo? Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Now he is reacting again. Pls go back to your Atheism thread because this thread is designed for believers. Or go to the Fight thread so we can exchange ideas carefully and appropriately. ... o ba't di mo ginawa ung naisip mong s-t-r-a-t-e-g-y? ... sino ka nga uli? MVP3 ba? Quote Link to comment
dungeonbaby Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Now he is reacting again. Pls go back to your Atheism thread because this thread is designed for believers. Or go to the Fight thread so we can exchange ideas carefully and appropriately. actually, skitz seemed to have created this thread specifically for atheists 1 Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 http://manilatonight...dpost&p=8199898 - Pinapasimple ko lang sinabi ni dungeonbaby. Naintindihan mo ba? ... at pinapaunawa ko nga sa iyo na kahit pasimplehin mo pa, ganun pa rin ang magiging sagot ko, nauunawaan mo ba? http://manilatonight...dpost&p=8199898 -May sinabi ba kong hindi maari gamitin? ... pwede naman pala eh, ... so, tapos na ang usapan? http://manilatonight...dpost&p=8199898 -Ano sa tingin mo? ... may kahulugan ang paglalagay ko ng diin sa salitang validity,... ano naman kaya ang sa tingin mo? Quote Link to comment
friendly0603 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 ok. it's not much of a moral code because it's the kind of code that will bend on a whim. you've basically said that yourself. the atheists are saying, in a nutshell, that whether people have a god or not, society would still come up with the same moral codes we have today. you seemed to have just said the opposite by saying our moral code would be different today if the spanish hadn't come. is my take correct?I don't know what kind of moral code will be the result. It may be the same or different. What I'm saying is that the predominant religious belief would definitely be different. anyway, if you backread, you'll see that one of the litmus tests proposed by the members here was the deadly disease scenario. if ten percent of this tribe's members was infected with a deadly disease, what do you think the rest of the tribe would do with that infectious few?Do you definitely know what that tribe would do? The language is already difficult. What does the litmus test prove? What would you do if that 10% will result in the extinction of man? What if the other 90% want to live? Won't the 10% want to save the 90% as well if there's no hope for them? Quote Link to comment
JayZip Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 actually, skitz seemed to have created this thread specifically for atheists i think so too. skitz should have this thread renamed "God's Moral Code - THEY don't need it." Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 -Tanong ko lang, bakit puro tanong mga sagot mo? ... hindi ba pwede ang sagot na patanong?-Tapos na nga ba ang usapan? ... sa palagay mo?-May validity nga ba? ... sa akin ay meron, para sa iyo kaya? Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) -Bakit ka nagsasagot ng patanong? Hindi ba puedeng sagot na nagtatapos sa tuldok? ... hindi nga ba pwede ang sagot na patanong? ... pwede ba o hindi? ... kung pwede ang sagot, iyon and dahilan ko sa pagsagot ng patanong, kasi pwede, ... ngayon kung hindi pwede ang sagot, bakit? -Tapos na nga ba? ... sa palagay mo nga? -Meron nga ba? ... ano sa tingin mo? Edited May 12, 2012 by vheRR Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 -Bakit nga ba yung sagot mo ay patanong? Hindi ba puedeng nagtatapos sa tuldok? ... pwede ba o hindi ang sagot na patanong? -Ang ano? ... ang sagot na patanong. -Bakit hindi mo puede sabihin ang rason sa pagsagot mo? ... sinagot ko na, pero tila hirap ka lang umunawa. -Bakit nga ba? ... ikaw ang magsabi kung bakit hindi pwede, ikaw ang tila yata may problema sa sagot na patanong. -Ano sa tingin mo?-Ano sa tingin mo? ... tinitingnan ko pa, ano naman kaya sa tingin mo? Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 -Bakit mo hindi puedeng sagutin ang tanong na nagtatapos sa tuldok? ... sinagot ko na,... heto't uulitin ko, ... hindi nga ba pwede ang sagot na patanong?... pwede ba o hindi?... kung pwede ang sagot, iyon ang dahilan ko sa pagsagot ng patanong, kasi pwede,... ngayon kung hindi pwede ang sagot, bakit? ... nauunawaan mo na ba? -Talaga? Saan ang sagot mo? ... lawakan ang pang-unawa, ... imulat ang mata, ... tingin sa itaas, ... nakikita mo na? ... o sya, basa. -Bakit mo nga hindi puedeng bigay ang rason sa pagsagot mo? ... binigay ko na,... ang kaso, hinihingi mo bang talaga ang rason sa pagsagot ko? -Tapos ka na? Ano sa tingin mo? ... hindi pa eh, hintay-hintay lang, ... naiinip ka na ba? Quote Link to comment
dungeonbaby Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I don't know what kind of moral code will be the result. It may be the same or different. What I'm saying is that the predominant religious belief would definitely be different. definitely be different? Do you definitely know what that tribe would do? The language is already difficult. What does the litmus test prove? What would you do if that 10% will result in the extinction of man? What if the other 90% want to live? Won't the 10% want to save the 90% as well if there's no hope for them? no i don't. if anyone definitely knew the answer here, there wouldn't be a debate. so, to rephrase the question, what do you think they would do? it's not a given that altruism can exist in a tribe that doesn't have a strong, clear moral code. of course the 90% want to live, but there's no reason for the 10% infected to give up their lives to save the 90%. that's what i think. if you want to defend your position, then state what a plausible scenario is for you. usually before i chime in on a thread where the debate is heated, i make it a point to backread. i suggest you do the same to find the answer to what some of us think would happen. Quote Link to comment
vheRR Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Bakit nga puede lang ang sagot mo at hindi mo puedeng ipaliwanag kung bakit ang sagot mo ay puede? Naintindihan mo ba?Ako ay nagbabackread at yung mga pagsagot mo ay patanong? Bakit nga ba patanong? ... itatanong ko uli sa iyo, sa iyong opinion, pwede ba o hindi pwede ang sagot-na-patanong? ... ngayon kung ayon sa iyong opinion ay pwede ang sagot-na-patanong, then, iyon ang sagot ko sa kung bakit patanong ang sagot ko, kasi pwede, ... pero, kung ayon naman sa iyong opinion ay hindi pwede ang sagot-na-patanong, then, pag-usapan kung bakit hindi pwede, ... intiende? San ang rason sa pagsagot mo? ... hindi mo talaga makikita kung nagbubulag-bulagan ka. Quote Link to comment
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