God's moral code

[BrightestStar]

God has the right to guide and even command us just like what He did in the Old Testament coz we are His creatures.

[SaintPeter5858]

Baby boy Vherr is not supposed to be in this thread. He should transter to the "Fight" thread so he can meet UP AdMU there. Nobody wants to listen to be Vherr anymore. He's just getting so many negative comments.

 

I'll keep posting negative comments about Vherr here if he doesn't transfer to the Fight thread.

[BrightestStar]

You really cannot fully discuss God academically. I asked a lot of great theologians from Ateneo's Loyola School of Theology (that's the best theological school in Asia according to European scholars) most of whom have taught in great European and American universities, and they always emphasize some level of mystery whenever we discuss about God.

 

Take it from Dan Brown, one of the most controversial but very popular authors today, in the movie (and book) "Angels and Demons". In the character of Harvard prof Langdon, he said "faith is a gift which I am yet to receive".

 

I totally agree with you Sir U.P. AdMU. Vherr remains very deaf, so let's not comment on whatever he says anymore. In short boycott Vherr's opinion.

[vheRR]

Baby boy Vherr is not supposed to be in this thread. He should transter to the "Fight" thread so he can meet UP AdMU there. Nobody wants to listen to be Vherr anymore. He's just getting so many negative comments.

 

I'll keep posting negative comments about Vherr here if he doesn't transfer to the Fight thread.

 

... at hindi mo pa rin magawang ipagtanggol ang sinabi mo't paniniwala,

... hanggang ngaun.

... at nuong una, Lake of Fire kamo,

... ngaun naman, posting negative comments about me,

 

... Pananakot lang ba ang alam mong argumento?

[vheRR]

I totally agree with you Sir U.P. AdMU. Vherr remains very deaf, so let's not comment on whatever he says anymore. In short boycott Vherr's opinion.

 

... mahusay na argumento,

 

... "kapag hindi kayang sagutin, wag na lang pansinin".

[BrightestStar]

Nobody wants to quote Vherr's opinion anymore. His impractical and unacceptable views are falling into the deep ocean where only the uncaring sharks can hear

[MVP3]

Kawawa naman si Ma'am Vherra, pinagtulungan nyo. bugbog sarado na yan. Iiyak na yan. Masyado na syang tumatangis

[BrightestStar]

So far, Vherr has already a Bad -20 Reputation!

 

does he believe in democracy now? That's more than 100+ MTC members versus Vherr! And still counting!

 

Vox populi, Vox Dei!

[MVP3]

If I were you Ms Vherra, go to your room, lock the door. then pray!

[BrightestStar]

nagkamali ng ginulong thread si Vherr. He just wants to disturb the peace of the believers.

[dungeonbaby]

.... uulitin ko, kung 100% kang sumasang-ayon sa isang idea, bakit mo babaguhin?

... kung naging "atheist" ako ng dahil sa mga idea na natutunan ko, hindi ko ba maaaring gamitin ang parehong idea sa anumang argumento ng dahil lamang sa hindi ito produkto ng isang "synthesis" o ng dahil sa hindi ko ito "orihinal" na idea?

... at ano ba ang mahalaga sa paggamit ng idea sa isang argumento, kung orihinal ba ito o ang validity nito?

 

i suppose i didn't articulate it well the first time, so let me try again.

 

cutting and pasting someone else's thoughts here, almost verbatim, with close to none of your own input does not invalidate the arguments you present.

 

what it invalidates is your ability to meaningfully participate in a dialogue.

 

thus, my problem with posters who provide only a link, and expect people to concede or even consider their point. if someone wants the rest of us to listen to his argument with an open mind, then at least he should put some effort into explaining his side.

 

here's a question for you: if you were a teacher, would you accept a position paper from a student who did nothing but cut and paste text from other papers and showed no evidence of having understood what was said in what he quoted?

 

 

 

 

[MVP3]

Ms Vherra lacks the basic ability of a responsible person to read, reflect and ask questions before making some basic decisions. Basic pa lang yun eh. All his questions have actually been answered already by thomas Aquinas, Karl Rahner and Bernard Lonergan. But I don't want to quote anymore because Ms Vherra is not someone who's intelligent enough to digest some scholarly opinions of others.

[dungeonbaby]

I cited a tribe to show that some version of moral code can and does exist without a god. That tribe didn't k*ll themselves because of a lack of God-given moral code as mentioned by some believers.

 

I'm not saying that their moral code is better. I'm saying that the moral code/beliefs in this country would've been different if our colonization had been different and it isn't impossible to have one without god(s).

 

ok. it's not much of a moral code because it's the kind of code that will bend on a whim. you've basically said that yourself. the atheists are saying, in a nutshell, that whether people have a god or not, society would still come up with the same moral codes we have today. you seemed to have just said the opposite by saying our moral code would be different today if the spanish hadn't come. is my take correct?

 

anyway, if you backread, you'll see that one of the litmus tests proposed by the members here was the deadly disease scenario. if ten percent of this tribe's members was infected with a deadly disease, what do you think the rest of the tribe would do with that infectious few?

[dungeonbaby]

... at ang "basehan" mo ay "nasaan"?

 

 

 

... nagbigay ka ng impormasyon, nagbigay ako ng karagdagang impormasyon.

 

"With a despair vast as Africa, Turnbull left the Ik and traveled back to civilization. When he returned a year later, after a flood season that had produced many plants, he discovered to his horror that, despite the abundant crops now rotting in the fields, the Ik had not changed."

 

Ackerman, Diane. A Natural History of Love. New York: Random House. 1995. pp. 144

[vheRR]

Nobody wants to quote Vherr's opinion anymore. His impractical and unacceptable views are falling into the deep ocean where only the uncaring sharks can hear

 

... eh bakit ka apektado sa opinion ko kung ganyan lang pala ang tingin mo sa pananaw ko?

 

... bakit nga ba?

So far, Vherr has already a Bad -20 Reputation!

 

does he believe in democracy now? That's more than 100+ MTC members versus Vherr! And still counting!

 

Vox populi, Vox Dei!

 

... at ano ang kinalaman ng democracy sa dios mo?

 

... iyan ba ang paraan mo ng pagpapatunay na totoo ang paniniwala mo, paramihan?

nagkamali ng ginulong thread si Vherr. He just wants to disturb the peace of the believers.

 

... patunatayan mo nga na ang thread na ito ay para lamang sa mga believers.