sonnyt111 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Most of the political killings in this country occur in the local government level. Obviously politicians resort to killing their rivals because these rivals are deemed as threat to the money making activities of these local government officials. Local government officials should not only be investigated for corruption. They should be, when applicable, investigated for murder. And convicted and imprisoned. In the Philippines after an investigation is done, that's the end of it. Even with the blatant killing of over 60 journalists by the Ampatuan monsters, not one has yet been convicted despite the fact that this extremely heinous crime occured in 2009. Quote Link to comment
oscartamaguchiblackface Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 You can't naively believe that local government officials want to serve their constituents so badly, they resort to killing their rivals. Everyone knows murder is committed by those vying for local government postions because they stand t make a lot of money. If i had a say into the investigation or murdered political aspirants, my primary suspect would be the politician who has the most to gain by the death of his rival. These officials should be treated like any other suspect preferably by the NBI so that police who are loyal to this politician and who are conducting the murder investigation aren't in postition to white-wash the investigation. Quote Link to comment
sonnyt111 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 You can't naively believe that local government officials want to serve their constituents so badly, they resort to killing their rivals. Everyone knows murder is committed by those vying for local government postions because they stand t make a lot of money. If i had a say into the investigation or murdered political aspirants, my primary suspect would be the politician who has the most to gain by the death of his rival. These officials should be treated like any other suspect preferably by the NBI so that police who are loyal to this politician and who are conducting the murder investigation aren't in postition to white-wash the investigation. Many times local government officials don't only k*ll their rivals. They'll k*ll anyone who gets in their way. Just think Dr. Jerry Ortega. Quote Link to comment
prinzmetal09 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 i'm wondering what would have happened if the FOI bill was already put into action last year. Would people still want to be Mayors/Government officials if anybody can just get the details about the budgets and spending of the "projects" that they are implementing. It's just sad that all the.hype of the FOI bill is currently stagnant and being buried by all the events that are happening right now Quote Link to comment
Bugatti Veyron Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 i'm wondering what would have happened if the FOI bill was already put into action last year. Would people still want to be Mayors/Government officials if anybody can just get the details about the budgets and spending of the "projects" that they are implementing. It's just sad that all the.hype of the FOI bill is currently stagnant and being buried by all the events that are happening right now Assuming that the FOI bill was enacted into law. How does the public really know how accurate the information really is? What guarantee do we have that the information submitted is window dressed, or worse, bogus? I mean the culture of cheating all started in school when students would go to Recto and pay for a term paper which they submitted as their own work. That sort of mentality somehow got passed on through the years until we have the situation we have today. Can we actually trust the figures indicated in the reports? How about ghost projects, ghost employees, etc. How can the public verify if indeed money was spent on actual projects, real employees, etc. ? Quote Link to comment
orionquest Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 There are many political families who have family members in practically all levels of government. Political dynasties are a reality just as corruption is. I suppose where you find political dynasties, you'll also find corruption. Perhaps if political dynasties are banned by an enabling law, the incidence of corruption may decrease. Then again, the successor of a mayor who belongs to a political dynasty may himself/herself be as corrupt if not more corrupt than his/her predecessor. So on second thought, elimination of political dynasties may not be a viable solution to eliminating corruption. hmm, somewhat contradictory opinions about political dynasty and corruption. please be clear on your your exact point. Quote Link to comment
sonnyt111 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 hmm, somewhat contradictory opinions about political dynasty and corruption. please be clear on your your exact point. Yeah I admit I issued contradictory remarks in the last post I made. Sometimes when Im analyzing a situation I suddenly develop new insights which can contradict my original point to the extent that my new insights now seem more plausible than the ideas I propounded earlier. The new insights then supersede the previous posts I made. Sorry for the confusion that arose as a result of me changing my mind as I get new insights that weren't available at the time my original post came out. Guess people can change their opinions after a better, more logical argument comes their way. 1 Quote Link to comment
friendly0603 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Best to eliminate dynasties. Experience helps improve corrupt ways so as not to get caught and to amass more wealth. Quote Link to comment
orionquest Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Yeah I admit I issued contradictory remarks in the last post I made. Sometimes when Im analyzing a situation I suddenly develop new insights which can contradict my original point to the extent that my new insights now seem more plausible than the ideas I propounded earlier. The new insights then supersede the previous posts I made. Sorry for the confusion that arose as a result of me changing my mind as I get new insights that weren't available at the time my original post came out. Guess people can change their opinions after a better, more logical argument comes their way. its okay sir, i think you have presented valid points on both scenarios thats why i asked for clarification on your answer. thanks sir for the insight. Quote Link to comment
sonnyt111 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 its okay sir, i think you have presented valid points on both scenarios thats why i asked for clarification on your answer. thanks sir for the insight. No problem. I appreciate the request for clarification. Sometimes I may not get my ideas across on the first try. Quote Link to comment
Fusarium_jimini Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Ang malas ng maynila, parehong scalawag yung tumatakbo (Lim and Erap)..mga user-friendly. Quote Link to comment
Bugatti Veyron Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) Ang malas ng maynila, parehong scalawag yung tumatakbo (Lim and Erap)..mga user-friendly. Para sa akin it's a matter of choosing the lesser evil. Wala nang choice mga taga Maynila. Edited March 29, 2013 by Bugatti Veyron Quote Link to comment
maxiev Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Para sa akin it's a matter of choosing the lesser evil. Wala nang choice mga taga Maynila.I saw the "debate" between Lim and Estrada. Pathetic is an understatement on how these two discussed "issues." All they did was throw mud at each other. In front of students pa naman. If I were a Manileno, I wouldn't waste my time going to the polls to vote for either of these two. Neither of them deserves my vote nor the votes of all Manilenos. Quote Link to comment
oscartamaguchiblackface Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I saw the "debate" between Lim and Estrada. Pathetic is an understatement on how these two discussed "issues." All they did was throw mud at each other. In front of students pa naman. If I were a Manileno, I wouldn't waste my time going to the polls to vote for either of these two. Neither of them deserves my vote nor the votes of all Manilenos.Instead of hurling insulting accusations against each other, why don't these two clarify what plans they have for Manila if they are elected Mayor. Quote Link to comment
Bugatti Veyron Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Mudslinging is a part of election life. I don't think these two political veterans are the only opponents hurling insults at each other. Yeah that's why politics in this country sucks big time. How can the Filipino people vote for candidates who do not promise to make their lives better (even if in truth they cannot) and are only good at hurling accusations against their opponents? So candidate A lists down all the faults of candidate B. So what??? Does that make him the better candidate? Does destroying the reputation of his opponent make him qualified to administer good government on his constituents? The answer is a big resounding NO!!! Quote Link to comment
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