daphne loves derby Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) The lineup is strong but putting 3bigs to start will not work cos its too slow for international play where ball movement and transition play is at a premium..kelangan pa din may traditional small forward tyo like norwood starting were talking at the next window, wala pang european na kalaban. Kaz and Iran dont take that much 3's like Korea and China. They only take 3s kung double team si Haddadi which with this tall lineup, Im betting will be rare. Edited November 12, 2018 by daphne loves derby Quote Link to comment
Fmulder9 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 We can get away with a tall lineup against the kazaks but not with iran. Iran has veered away from a deliberate style of play bec of haddadis decline,and they feature more of bahrami and another wing i cannot remember the name. Even their bigs has started shooting 3s Quote Link to comment
dencio Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I may be in the minority but I believe that to beat Iran, we need more speed and shooting - similar to the formula we used when we beat them in 2015. As the previous poster has mentioned, Iran’s game has also transitioned outside as Haddadi has slowed down with age. Fact : Iran averages more 3s and has a higher 3FG% than we do (based on 2018 FIBA Asia stats). My strategy would be to rotate Junemar and CStand at C, paired with any of the shooting bigs - Belga, Erram, Rosario. The rest of the lineup will be shooters and quick penetrating guards. Our shooting has to be effective and/or be able to take quality shots while Haddadi is still lumbering upcourt. 1 Quote Link to comment
dani.solieja Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Standhardinger and belga cant play the 3 spot masyado na sila mabagal for a wing and greedy na sa tangkad lineup nun kung sakali. And di siguro maganda pag sabayin slaughter and fajardo ng matagal cuz they are both post up players siguro maganda kung 4 natin may maayos na mid-range to 3pt shots like japeth, erram, belga, santos and rosario. Quote Link to comment
Fmulder9 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Position wise set na talaga tyo sa guards n center position...sa power n small forward tyo mdyo weak...we have big forwards but medyo mabagal...we have quick forwards but lacking in height...plus dapat both forward positions can shoot from the outside Quote Link to comment
Gringo* Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Haay.. ayoko sana ma sweep NSD pero parang gusto ko na rin matalo sila mmya para maka focus sila sa TEAM PILIPINAS. mahirap sumabak sa semis at finals ang 4 n players s gilas pool ng bugbog sarado at baka ma injured pa. Quote Link to comment
Sheed21 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Let support Yeng's decision and hope for the best!! Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Position wise set na talaga tyo sa guards n center position...sa power n small forward tyo mdyo weak...we have big forwards but medyo mabagal...we have quick forwards but lacking in height...plus dapat both forward positions can shoot from the outsideI think we are fine at the PF with Stand and Aguilar. Stand is a work horse and a pesky defender who is also quick enough to guard wing men. He is the most suited among the players in the pool for the international game. Aguilar can relieve Stand but Stand should be the main PF. Quote Link to comment
Fmulder9 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 C-stan is very capable at the 4,the only problem is when paired wd jmf,the paint becomes too clogged..thats also the reason why blatche was a success with us cos he is a big who can play outside...c-stan can be effective but he must be paired wd a big who has a decent perimeter shot like erram or belga...he cant be at the post or even in pick n roll situations when jmf is around...spacing is not good 1 Quote Link to comment
joey.fabian2018 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 What belga? Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Sino po me live stream link? Quote Link to comment
Richmond Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Lambot ni Junemar pang PBA lang talaga walang kwenta sa international game Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 panget ng rotation ni Coach.... a must win against IRAN Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Sabi nila noong 80s and 90s, kulang tayo sa malaki... ngayon we have at least 4 players na 6'9 and above and yet we are finding it difficult... Ano kaya kulang? Preparation? Quote Link to comment
dani.solieja Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Sabi nila noong 80s and 90s, kulang tayo sa malaki... ngayon we have at least 4 players na 6'9 and above and yet we are finding it difficult... Ano kaya kulang? Preparation?Medyo mabagal bigs natin pwera kay japeth at erram. IMO kinulang sila sa effort sa depensa Quote Link to comment
dani.solieja Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Malabo nang manalo.. Mabagal malalaki ng team natin.. Ipapasok si Hardinger tapos papalitan si Pringle eh kailan natin ang bilis ni Pringle.. Hirap nyan.. Di kasi sinama si Blatche eh. Di naman pa subok sa international games pa si Barney.. Sana kahit andyan si barney eh sinama si Blatche.. Wrong decision talaga.. Bye bye na sa Fiba WC..Hindi pa nmn naglalaho yung chances natin for FIBA WC pero kailangan lang natin mapanalo the rest of the games. Sayang e kasi ang chances natin for sure making it sa FIBA WC is maipanalo lang yung both games against kazakhstan and qatar naging worst case scenario pa. The gilas-aussie brawl still haunts us. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 tough loss to swallow. those 3s really killed gilas. now it's a must win on monday. time to tweak the lineup. i think castro should come in for cabagnot, rosario for erram, paul lee to replace LA and cstan for stanley. maybe santos for belga. 1 Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 nagbibigay ng buhay sa opensa/depensa bigla mo aalisin not talking on defense nauwi sa 1 on 1 play ayun nakatunganga na lahat Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Chemistry and familiarity ang issue... Quote Link to comment
junix Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 nagtataka lang ako kung bakit di na binalik si idol iskati? he was playing well...and besides we needed an energizer, a hustle player who would go after 50-50 balls. Quote Link to comment
kamvilarn Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 We have to naturalize Justin Brownlee asap!! if he played in that game against Kazakhstan, he would have torched them for 60 points!!! Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) Malabo nang manalo.. Mabagal malalaki ng team natin.. Ipapasok si Hardinger tapos papalitan si Pringle eh kailan natin ang bilis ni Pringle.. Hirap nyan.. Di kasi sinama si Blatche eh. Di naman pa subok sa international games pa si Barney.. Sana kahit andyan si barney eh sinama si Blatche.. Wrong decision talaga.. Bye bye na sa Fiba WC..We can only forget Andray kapag may cohesion na ang Guiao selection... kaso hastily formed, so may issue talaga sa familiarity. Sayang very beatable pa naman ang Kazakhs (wala pa nga si Ponomarev) Edited November 30, 2018 by artedpro Quote Link to comment
Sir Galahad® Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Mobile big men kailangan natin. Si JMF malaki pero hindi siya pang takbuhan. Yun nga lang sa Team Pilipinas siya ang best big man natin sa WC. Japeth only got 2 rebounds kanina. Si Erram naman yung laro niya sa PBA di naman natranslate din dito. Si Slaughter 5 minutes lang nilaro hindi na binalik sa second half. Any suggestions. Kai Sotto? Parang ang dali itulak eh. Aasa na lang ba tayo kay Blatche parati? CStan? Mas parang problema nga tayo na wala tayong shooters na Caidic/Cabahug. Ang ganda pa ng outside shooting ng KAZ kanina. Si Wright nainis ako kanina. Same with Cabagnot pero siya yung bida natin last time vs, QAT Ano suggestion mo sa Lineup vs. Iran? Meron pa tayong 3 games left.... IRAN, QATAR at KAZAKHSTAN ulit. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Mobile big men kailangan natin. Si JMF malaki pero hindi siya pang takbuhan. Yun nga lang sa Team Pilipinas siya ang best big man natin sa WC. Japeth only got 2 rebounds kanina. Si Erram naman yung laro niya sa PBA di naman natranslate din dito. Si Slaughter 5 minutes lang nilaro hindi na binalik sa second half. Any suggestions. Kai Sotto? Parang ang dali itulak eh. Aasa na lang ba tayo kay Blatche parati? CStan? Mas parang problema nga tayo na wala tayong shooters na Caidic/Cabahug. Ang ganda pa ng outside shooting ng KAZ kanina. Si Wright nainis ako kanina. Same with Cabagnot pero siya yung bida natin last time vs, QAT Ano suggestion mo sa Lineup vs. Iran? Meron pa tayong 3 games left.... IRAN, QATAR at KAZAKHSTAN ulit.all 3 remaining games are must wins specially that we are now tied with japan at 5-4. humahabol pa ang kazakhstan. ang hirap nito, the last 2 remaining games are away games kaya talagang kailangan kumayod. tama...we need consistent shooters who can light it out every game plus mobile big men who can close out on the 3s. Quote Link to comment
Pnat8R Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Ang problema ng team natin palagi e yung disiplina, nawawala palagi lalo na kapag critical na oras.. talent wise mahuhusay player natin, kaso dahil kulang sa preparation at pabago bago mga player e hindi talaga natin marating ang peak form ng potential ng team natin.. if only we can have enough time para sa preparation ng isang tunay na national team, no doubt we can compete with the best in the world.. its about time for sbp to go back to the drawing board and make a blue print for the nex generation of players lead by Kai Sotto.. put coach Tab as the head coach of this cadet team and have our younger generation of coaches under him such as Chito victolero and alex compton.. these two coaches knows best how to counter act teams with big men as shown how they have beaten big teams in the PBA with their full court pressure defense... Again it will go back to DISCIPLINE as the main ingredient lacking in our team.. Quote Link to comment
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