ragstoriches Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Bro prutkeyk, actually, Im just starting, so im just trying to feel it out first. I am still on Chapter 3 on the SQL Server 2005 Pocket Consultant by William R Stanek. I found out that ung Management Studio (MS) has capabilities like Visual Studio, in fact the feel and look of it is VS. Bro, mabalik sa VS, what is your suggestion to concentrate on using : VB or C ? Nasimulan ko kasi VB, but I've come accross certain literature that Microsoft is leaning more on C these days. If C, C# ba ok? or C++? How come walang J# sa VS08? Pano na JAVA developers nyan? Quote Link to comment
prutkeyk Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Bro prutkeyk, actually, Im just starting, so im just trying to feel it out first. I am still on Chapter 3 on the SQL Server 2005 Pocket Consultant by William R Stanek. I found out that ung Management Studio (MS) has capabilities like Visual Studio, in fact the feel and look of it is VS. Bro, mabalik sa VS, what is your suggestion to concentrate on using : VB or C ? Nasimulan ko kasi VB, but I've come accross certain literature that Microsoft is leaning more on C these days. If C, C# ba ok? or C++? How come walang J# sa VS08? Pano na JAVA developers nyan? i prefer C#..kasi gusto ko yung strict sense nya, laid back kasi ang vb.net (sensya sa VB.NET developers). Kung sana nahawakan mo yung unang VS.NET, mas maapreciate mo ang essence ng C#, kasi nun sa c#, walang intellisense, so you have to figure out kung ano yung tamang syntax (challenging di ba?). so, using c#, mas malalaman mo ang structure ng .NET lalo na pagdating sa Object Oriented Design. furthermore, i think na ang Base Class Libraries starting from System namespace are all written in C#. Wala ng J# sa VS 2008 kasi based dito, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vjsharp/default.aspx, bumaba ang requirement for J#. You should not worry about JAVA Developers, why? First, malulupit yang mga yan. Remeber, kaya nilang gumawa ng program by just using notepad :thumbsupsmiley:. They don't need .NET to create a system.. Second, kung nag-C/C++ ka, magkaparehas lang sila ng syntax ng JAVA. Third, ang .NET Object Oriented Approach yan, pero nung wala pang .NET, JAVA lang ang nagiimplement ng tamang OOD. So to summarize, hindi mo kailangan problemahin ang JAVA developers kapatid..hehehe Quote Link to comment
ragstoriches Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 thank you kapatid, or atid for short. pwede ba yon? very nice info. talagang salamat. i will follow your advice and study C#. Medyo nasimulan ko na C++, im hoping me similarities sila. how about ASP.NET. ive read that this is not a programming language pero di ko gaano maintindihan explanation. Quote Link to comment
ragstoriches Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 now that you mentioned it, im thankful for intellisense for beginners like me. although di ko pa nagagamit but it's nice to know there is that tool. still learning. . . Quote Link to comment
prutkeyk Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 thank you kapatid, or atid for short. pwede ba yon? very nice info. talagang salamat. i will follow your advice and study C#. Medyo nasimulan ko na C++, im hoping me similarities sila. how about ASP.NET. ive read that this is not a programming language pero di ko gaano maintindihan explanation. hehehe..kahit ano bro.. ok let's go to ASP.NET.. have you created websites using .NET? ASP.NET is more on web applications. The way you decide the design, how the interaction of your application to users is through asp.net. example, may makikita kang grids, textboxes, validation etc sa page mo..that is asp.net. marami pa yan tulad ng postback, caching at kung ano ano pa.. ano yung pagkakaiba ng C# sa ASP.NET? we have the application layer, business layer and data layer db? so ASP.NET is for the application layer (front-end/customer facing) while yung c# is mostly used as code-behind sa business at data layer mo, yung logic mismo..it is the code itself. (ex. Response.Write("Hello") malabo pa ba kapatid? Quote Link to comment
mackyboy Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) How come walang J# sa VS08? Pano na JAVA developers nyan? Addition lang sa sinabi ni prutkeyk. Java developers usually use Netbeans or Eclipse as their IDE. Wala pa akong nakikilalang java developer na J# ang ginagamit. Java is not owned by microsoft. Java progams can run on any operating system. "Build once, run everywhere" sya. Hindi lang windows sya nagrrun. Actually my OS is Ubuntu Linux and I do my Java work using Ubuntu. Hindi libre ang ang visual studio. Yung Netbeans and Eclipse libre. Java is open source. And microsoft doesn't like open source stuff. Kaya siguro binitawan na rin nila J#. Edited January 7, 2009 by mackyboy Quote Link to comment
prutkeyk Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Addition lang sa sinabi ni prutkeyk. Java developers usually use Netbeans or Eclipse as their IDE. Wala pa akong nakikilalang java developer na J# ang ginagamit. Java is not owned by microsoft. Java progams can run on any operating system. "Build once, run everywhere" sya. Hindi lang windows sya nagrrun. Actually my OS is Ubuntu Linux and I do my Java work using Ubuntu. Hindi libre ang ang visual studio. Yung Netbeans and Eclipse libre. Java is open source. And microsoft doesn't like open source stuff. Kaya siguro binitawan na rin nila J#. yup i agree with these statements! thanks sir mackyboy.. Quote Link to comment
ragstoriches Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 thanks mga maestros. Quote Link to comment
jheydine Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Hello po patulong lang po, baka mayron po kayong software ng corel draw pahingi naman po. tinx Quote Link to comment
prutkeyk Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Hello po patulong lang po, baka mayron po kayong software ng corel draw pahingi naman po. tinx hi mam jheydine..for your software request, you can refer to the Sofware & Applications section of MTC..sensya na..yun kasi yung proper thread for your needs right now. Cheers! Quote Link to comment
HunkDavao Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 thank you kapatid, or atid for short. pwede ba yon? very nice info. talagang salamat. i will follow your advice and study C#. Medyo nasimulan ko na C++, im hoping me similarities sila. how about ASP.NET. ive read that this is not a programming language pero di ko gaano maintindihan explanation. If you've gone through a lot of reading and learning on VB .NET, then why not continue with it? That's a waste of time and effort if you jump to C#. But if you're still just beginning, yes, good choice if you go the C# way. But still, as my colleague said, the language just follows the logic of the programmer. Even if you only know C++ , with VS' intellisense, coding is not so difficult. You will still get your code functioning just as long as you have the right algorithm. For ASP .NET , its for web programming. You use it in cahoots with VB or C# as your code behind or server-side programming. If you want to be complete in your programming skills, go ahead and learn ASP too. Quote Link to comment
tiyopaeng501 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Hi, C++ kid here. hehe. Been fiddling with C++ for about 3 years now and I can say that it's all that you need to learn if you want to learn almost all the basic programming paradigms (I said almost because C++ lacks some dynamic stuffs like reflection and runtime object ID methods). Quote Link to comment
dirk_stojakovic Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 mas ok pa rin SAP.... mag-SAP na lang kayo... hehehe Quote Link to comment
prutkeyk Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 mas ok pa rin SAP.... mag-SAP na lang kayo... hehehe it's your opinion sir, i will respect that Quote Link to comment
coolzam Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 i was a programmer before my line is c, c++, vb, java. but now nasa hardware na ako ngayon...im into hardware and networking na...mas enjoy ako lag pa nasa field..Right now im IT administrator. Quote Link to comment
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